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The NFL is becoming dead to me. And it doesn't even bother me.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Superman again.
 
There was a similar play in the Penn State game. Waiting for an unwarranted flag that thankfully never came. It was refreshing. College football is much more enjoyable to watch. Even though they eventually adopt most of the NFL rules, it seems like the refs at that level are more willing to let the players play at this point.

The Penn State game was an exciting, low scoring defensive game. I hate that the NFL equates high score with great game. It just doesn't work that way. The PSU Rutgers game was 13-10 and it was an edge of the seat game the whole time. There were great defensive plays that kept the score low.

I was also thinking during the game how much better it is watching a college game and knowing the refs are likely not going to ruin it (until we play Michigan). I'm sick of seeing a great defensive play in the NFL and waiting for the flag.

College did add a rule last year where they can throw a player out for a head shot, but they made it reviewable. The result is, i barely see it called now. Players have gotten the message not to go for the head, just as they have in the NFL, but the college refs aren't throwing the flags for the incidental contact.

Goodell is so stupid for going along with all the concussion stuff. Sure, you take it seriously and have the best helmets and call a penalty for head shots, but they've always done that.

Now you have players suing and saying that X% of players will someday have some sort of dementia or Alzheimers. So will non-football players. Goodell, in his glee to be seen as progressive by the media has essentially agreed that it's proven science that playing football = future brain damage.

Here's what the NFL needs to do. Cut a big check to cover older players. Then add language to all contracts that says football is dangerous, i'm playing anyway.
 
Yep. They are turning their back on the core NFL fams. What they don't get...all those female fans they covet, they're gone once their brothers, husbands and fathers stop watching. Fantasy football isn't strong enough to hold the casual fan if the core audience walks away from the game. There's a reason they were casual fans to begin with.
 
The NFL won't see it until it is too late, though.....because it will be such a gradual decline.

Or.....and more likely...they just don't care because we are not the "target audience" anyway.
 
I'm part of the "target" group, and I am pissed off at what the game has become. I've been a fan since birth....almost 41 years. I grew up watching hard hits and all that. I feel like it's part of my blood. To see the game that I love(d) so much become a ***** league has soured me. I don't want to see all this fake pandering about breast cancer and bullshit like that. I want the old, smashmouth NFL back. I put games on now, but only as background noise while I clean or cook....or nap. Next week's game vs. Carolina is on at night....I will probably go to bed before it's over. That's not how I used to roll. I feel like a part of who I am has seriously changed/left, and it kinda hurts.
 
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I'm part of the "target" group, and I am pissed off at what the game has become. I've been a fan since birth....almost 41 years. I grew up watching hard hits and all that. I feel like it's part of my blood. To see the game that I love(d) so much become a ***** league has soured me. I don't want to see all this fake pandering about breast cancer and bullshit like that. I want the old, smashmouth NFL back. I put games on now, but only as background noise while I clean or cook....or nap. Next week's game vs. Carolina is on at night....I will probably go to bed before it's over. That's not how I used to roll. I feel like a part of who I am has seriously changed/left, and it kinda hurts.

I am not part of the target group, I am the old school long time viewer. I used to drive to the steelers bar 90 miles away to watch the game with lots of other fans in a suburb of Dallas TX. Not really sure I will make the trip this year. My favorite sport has become rather ho hum thanks to the rules changed in favor of high numbers on the board. I began to loose some interest when the cheatriots were given a pass on cheating and every year a bit more of the game slides away.

There are harder hits on this message board than get put on guys in the game. I used to follow lots of sports but the games have changed a lot and no longer interest me. This sport seems to be going the way of the industry that used to populate the ohio and mon valleys.
 
I understand trying to reach a broader audience, but you can't just cater everything to attracting the casual fan. It's great at first but the longterm effect is that the kids who are just becoming fans will also end up being casual fans because that is how it's marketed to them.

More and more, you hear younger fans who are just fans of players and not teams. This is terrible for the game. There is no loyalty.

The NBA has gone down that path and the result is there's only a few teams that pull ratings. Lebron went from Miami to Cleveland, so now nobody will watch Miami anymore. The NBA takes ratings any way they can get it, but it's not good for their league overall.
 
AP is reinstated.
My fantasy team hopes he keeps his damn hands off his damn kid for another few months.
 
I understand trying to reach a broader audience, but you can't just cater everything to attracting the casual fan. It's great at first but the longterm effect is that the kids who are just becoming fans will also end up being casual fans because that is how it's marketed to them.

More and more, you hear younger fans who are just fans of players and not teams. This is terrible for the game. There is no loyalty.

The NBA has gone down that path and the result is there's only a few teams that pull ratings. Lebron went from Miami to Cleveland, so now nobody will watch Miami anymore. The NBA takes ratings any way they can get it, but it's not good for their league overall.
Excellent post. It seems that even the almighty NFL is guilty of the true American pasttime. Shortsightedness.
 
Excellent post. It seems that even the almighty NFL is guilty of the true American pasttime. Gambling / Betting.

Fixed it for yaz

I am NOT the target fan. Been a die hard STEELERS fans forever. I too am losing interest in the league. I was a home brewer and brewed many a different kind of beers (some award winning). I brewed this one I called Blitz City, in honor of our Blitzburgh Steelers. How I miss those days of the Blitzburgh Steelers. Now to the point. The League has made it so hard for us fans to determine penalties. How hard is it to determine a legal catch? A unnecessary roughness penalty? A fumble? you get my drift. It's so that the ref's can make a call that isn't so obvious, a game changer. It only takes 3 to 6 plays to change points / out come of games. If the league had cut and dry rules, the points manipulation wouldn't be as easy. Then the gamblers would catch on and quit betting. That is the real MONEY to this game. Fantasy Football is gambling rooted, think about it. This "protection / Safety" of players, is mostly about keeping the score on the board. Our beloved game of football has gone and the odds of it ever coming back are slim to none. Until better's flinch, there will be no change.


Salute the nation
 
The NFL has become like our society...soft and so complicated on penalties that it allows the league to favor certain players/teams over others...depending on who you are or whom you play for...


Pisses me the **** off! easy to fix games when you're not sure what's being called.


One thing that really pisses me off. Why does the league, have to punish players for run ins with the law? Shouldn't that be up to their boss?(the owner of their team)
Get so tired of congress, media, and society trying to dictate what should be done with a player. Should be up to the law and their boss.

sorry, people...just getting tired of the bullshit on and off the field.
 
The Penn State game was an exciting, low scoring defensive game. I hate that the NFL equates high score with great game. It just doesn't work that way. The PSU Rutgers game was 13-10 and it was an edge of the seat game the whole time. There were great defensive plays that kept the score low. .
Exactly. World wide, soccer is the most popular sport with thrilling final scores such as, 1-0 or 2-1. You don't see the soccer organizers trying to change the rules to get big time scores. The game works for their audience and they don't **** with it too much.

Don't apologize. I didnt realize my disdain for this league was so widely shared. Imagine what a national survey might reveal
What I am seeing from the casual fans that I talk to is, they can't stand watching the game due to all the ******* flags being thrown on almost every play.
 
The Penn State game was an exciting, low scoring defensive game. I hate that the NFL equates high score with great game. It just doesn't work that way. The PSU Rutgers game was 13-10 and it was an edge of the seat game the whole time. There were great defensive plays that kept the score low. .
Exactly. World wide, soccer is the most popular sport with thrilling final scores such as, 1-0 or 2-1. You don't see the soccer organizers trying to change the rules to get big time scores. The game works for their audience and they don't **** with it too much.

Don't apologize. I didnt realize my disdain for this league was so widely shared. Imagine what a national survey might reveal
What I am seeing from the casual fans that I talk to is, they can't stand watching the game due to all the ******* flags being thrown on almost every play.
 
The Penn State game was an exciting, low scoring defensive game. I hate that the NFL equates high score with great game. It just doesn't work that way. The PSU Rutgers game was 13-10 and it was an edge of the seat game the whole time. There were great defensive plays that kept the score low.

High scores appeal to fantasy geeks and casual football fans, they outnumber traditional football purists probably 5:1 and the NFL knows it.
 
I am not part of the target group, I am the old school long time viewer. I used to drive to the steelers bar 90 miles away to watch the game with lots of other fans in a suburb of Dallas TX. Not really sure I will make the trip this year. My favorite sport has become rather ho hum thanks to the rules changed in favor of high numbers on the board. I began to loose some interest when the cheatriots were given a pass on cheating and every year a bit more of the game slides away.

There are harder hits on this message board than get put on guys in the game. I used to follow lots of sports but the games have changed a lot and no longer interest me. This sport seems to be going the way of the industry that used to populate the ohio and mon valleys.
which suburb? I'm in the metroplex too.. Wouldn't mind watching with a fellow Steelers fan every once in a while
 
well ratings are slipping, and I think a lot of us are feeling the same way as you SS. Read the comments on this story, and see the utter disdain for the New NFL.
 
Tonight was the finale of Masterchef- on at the same time as MNF. Used to be I'd DVR the other show and watch MNF. Tonight I watched MC...and didn't even change the channel to check the score of the MNF game. I have it on now but I am ready for bed- will put me to sleep pretty quick.

I read an article today that said Colin Kaepernick was flagged in last nights game for allegedly saying a slur towards the other team. Unsportsmanlike Conduct, I believe. He says he never said anything, and his teammates agree. The red who threw the flag wasn't sure of what was said, or who said it( if ANYTHING) but because he THOUGHT he heard something, he had to throw a flag. WTF is this league?? After reading that this afternoon, I am beyond flabbergasted. However, I am available to comforting Colin should he need it...
 
which suburb? I'm in the metroplex too.. Wouldn't mind watching with a fellow Steelers fan every once in a while
Aggie, just goggle Austin Avenue II. It is right close to the area dividing Richardson and Plano. It is also the base of operations for the Southern Steel fan club. Last time I was there the place was full of folks wearing the black and gold. Lots of folks been going to the place for years, I have been going there for at least 4 and maybe 6 years.
 
Tonight was the finale of Masterchef- on at the same time as MNF. Used to be I'd DVR the other show and watch MNF. Tonight I watched MC...and didn't even change the channel to check the score of the MNF game. I have it on now but I am ready for bed- will put me to sleep pretty quick.

I read an article today that said Colin Kaepernick was flagged in last nights game for allegedly saying a slur towards the other team. Unsportsmanlike Conduct, I believe. He says he never said anything, and his teammates agree. The red who threw the flag wasn't sure of what was said, or who said it( if ANYTHING) but because he THOUGHT he heard something, he had to throw a flag. WTF is this league?? After reading that this afternoon, I am beyond flabbergasted. However, I am available to comforting Colin should he need it...

I forgot there was even a game on. The flag on Kaep is one of the reasons I don't give a ****.
 
I watched bits and pieces of the Cinci & Cleveland games on Sunday -- but did not watch any of the others . Especially Sunday and Monday night

I would bet that the reason there are games on CBS on Thursdays right now is because a lot of cable networks don't carry NFL network = so the ratings for those games are low .. this is an attempt to boost the ratings for Thursday night games -- with the state of the NFL right now I don't think it is going to work
 
Drudge is reporting that NFL ratings are down for a second week in a row.....Unfortunately they will blame Ray Rice and AP for this drop and completely miss the boat.

It is over.
 
Drudge is reporting that NFL ratings are down for a second week in a row.....Unfortunately they will blame Ray Rice and AP for this drop and completely miss the boat.

It is over.
 
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