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The Official Thread Dedicated to "Biden Destroying Us"

I don't disagree with the President here. We were there 20 damn years. We gave them the best equipment and training money could buy. Every time there was contact and we were teamed with our Afghan "partners," they'd cut and run. If they do not have the resolve and the courage to fight for their nation, and as you see it playing out they don't, then what help can we give them? We can't fight for them. We left them billions of dollars in weapons, ammunition, ground equipment and aircraft. Most of it has already been captured by the Taliban. They have to fight or be serfs, it's that simple. I'm not going to weep for them, because we gave them the upper hand and they squandered it through cowardice.

If you want my personal opinion on that conflict, it was lost the minute politicians started putting their fingers on it. Rules of engagement hamstrung our forces to the point that the most powerful military in the world fought to a stalemate with lightly armed rabble. We surrendered so much treasure and so many lives fighting for a people that refused to fight for themselves and even knifed us in the back the minute the Taliban caught up with them. Had the politicians stayed out of it and let the generals do their jobs, we could have crushed the Taliban in pretty short order. We did actually. Ran them out of the country. Then the "rules" started, and the Taliban learned those rules and exploited them to their advantage.

After that ****, we should have cut sling the minute we took Bin Laden's scalp. What mission was left after that, besides nation building? And we suck at nation building. There was and is no chance Afghanistan ever accepts a western style democracy. Should have clearly defined the mission, accomplished it, and got the hell out. Could have claimed victory, mission accomplished, whatever instead of leaving with our tails between our legs.

And for the record, I can assure you that had we waited until September like Trump had planned, the result would have been exactly the same. The media reaction would have been markedly different I'm sure, but the result would have been the same.
I'll go to my grave saying this to all that will listen. If we would ever have a politician who would simply leave our professionally trained military do it job with no restrictions on the rules of engagement, we would show the world a violence unimaginable to most and complete the task in short order. You boys in Afghanistan were impressive in the speed and efficiency in which you fought and pushed through cities. Ali Baba couldn't run fast enough from what I've read from first hand accounts of the Taliban fighters. They were shocked.

And then the politicians started their bullshit.
 
Well yeah I know Biden is just the guy who signs his name. Barry has to be the president by proxy. Which is why we're seeing so much off the wall ****. He has zero liability for all of the unconstitutional **** and Biden they could deem unfit anytime they want. That's another card to do whatever you want as president.


How could anyone who actually legitimately voted for this guy be happy? Unless you're a leftist.
Joe doesn't know WTF. The fun will start when he goes, probably very soon, and I'm thinking Kamala will want to run her own show and not have anyone telling her what to do.
Speaking of, I hope Hunter has some money in the bank because when Daddy goes he doesn't have any influence anymore and I'm thinking the Dems can't wait to get rid of that *** clown before he does something they can't cover up.
 
Joe doesn't know WTF. The fun will start when he goes, probably very soon, and I'm thinking Kamala will want to run her own show and not have anyone telling her what to do.
Speaking of, I hope Hunter has some money in the bank because when Daddy goes he doesn't have any influence anymore and I'm thinking the Dems can't wait to get rid of that *** clown before he does something they can't cover up.
Likely trip to the lovely state of Arkancide.
 
Likely trip to the lovely state of Arkancide.
I don't think he'll need much help. He has a lot of money and a drug problem already.
 
I'll go to my grave saying this to all that will listen. If we would ever have a politician who would simply leave our professionally trained military do it job with no restrictions on the rules of engagement, we would show the world a violence unimaginable to most and complete the task in short order. You boys in Afghanistan were impressive in the speed and efficiency in which you fought and pushed through cities. Ali Baba couldn't run fast enough from what I've read from first hand accounts of the Taliban fighters. They were shocked.

And then the politicians started their bullshit.
A very good friend of mine has a son that is an Army Ranger. He left last night to go back into Afghanistan to get everyone out of the embassy. What a **** show.
 
A very good friend of mine has a son that is an Army Ranger. He left last night to go back into Afghanistan to get everyone out of the embassy. What a **** show.

(D)imbos fought with Trump to keep our boys in that shithole and screeched when he announced he was going to withdraw the troops. In fact, one of his generals violated the orders and kept more troops in the country than was authorized and lied to the President about that fact. (D)imbos insisted we needed to keep troops in the region.

Now, the dullard ice cream licker pulls troops out without a whit of preparation or planning, leaves behind a ****-ton of materiel at Bagram air base that we built at a cost of tens of millions of dollars, and the inevitable cluster-**** ensues.

Anybody who doubts that the military leadership violated a direct order from the commander-in-chief for any reasons other than to deny Trump a political win is a lying liar, an imbecile, a sheep believing the feces spoon-fed to him by the media, or a combination of all of the above (Tibilo).
 
Here's an idea, dementia-boy. How about taking the millions of dollars of equipment from Bagram air base and evacuating the civilian personnel before you remove the guys with guns?

Just an idea.
 
Here's an idea, dementia-boy. How about taking the millions of dollars of equipment from Bagram air base and evacuating the civilian personnel before you remove the guys with guns?

Just an idea.
You have to keep in mind that muppet Biden has Barry's hand stuffed so far up his ***, he can read the time on his watch. You know Barry always loved his Muslim Brotherhood pals.
 
Xiden is totally inept. The embassy should've been evacuated FIRST.

And how much time have they had to do it?

I mean c'mon, this is absolute lunacy.
 
So bus/fly hundreds of thousands of infected illegals into the country that pour in like water and then have the balls to talk **** like this?


**** this guy and his entire crew.


 
 



Just as they announce emergency evacuation orders & deployment of 3,000 U.S. troops to Kabul. How convenient.
 
What? Didn’t we just remove (only) 3,500 and now we are almost doubling that AFTEr they took all are **** and advanced. Unreal sleepy

 
What? Didn’t we just remove (only) 3,500 and now we are almost doubling that AFTEr they took all are **** and advanced. Unreal sleepy

Please explain how the rapid deterioration of Afghanistan is being pinned on Biden's ‘sudden withdrawal of US forces,’ when the previous administration had committed a year and a half ago to leaving by May 2021?

Which you all applauded as a momentous achievement by the former guy.

Oh, because of petty, partisan politics. Of course.
 
Please explain how the rapid deterioration of Afghanistan is being pinned on Biden's ‘sudden withdrawal of US forces,’ when the previous administration had committed a year and a half ago to leaving by May 2021?

Which you all applauded as a momentous achievement by the former guy.

Oh, because of petty, partisan politics. Of course.
Vile Comrade Tibs, useful idiot:

Does Trump get credit for the vaccine policy developed at the same time as the genocidal Afghan policy, or blamed for implementation of either months after leaving office?
 
I don't disagree with the President here. We were there 20 damn years. We gave them the best equipment and training money could buy. Every time there was contact and we were teamed with our Afghan "partners," they'd cut and run. If they do not have the resolve and the courage to fight for their nation, and as you see it playing out they don't, then what help can we give them? We can't fight for them. We left them billions of dollars in weapons, ammunition, ground equipment and aircraft. Most of it has already been captured by the Taliban. They have to fight or be serfs, it's that simple. I'm not going to weep for them, because we gave them the upper hand and they squandered it through cowardice.

If you want my personal opinion on that conflict, it was lost the minute politicians started putting their fingers on it. Rules of engagement hamstrung our forces to the point that the most powerful military in the world fought to a stalemate with lightly armed rabble. We surrendered so much treasure and so many lives fighting for a people that refused to fight for themselves and even knifed us in the back the minute the Taliban caught up with them. Had the politicians stayed out of it and let the generals do their jobs, we could have crushed the Taliban in pretty short order. We did actually. Ran them out of the country. Then the "rules" started, and the Taliban learned those rules and exploited them to their advantage.

After that ****, we should have cut sling the minute we took Bin Laden's scalp. What mission was left after that, besides nation building? And we suck at nation building. There was and is no chance Afghanistan ever accepts a western style democracy. Should have clearly defined the mission, accomplished it, and got the hell out. Could have claimed victory, mission accomplished, whatever instead of leaving with our tails between our legs.

And for the record, I can assure you that had we waited until September like Trump had planned, the result would have been exactly the same. The media reaction would have been markedly different I'm sure, but the result would have been the same.
I agree on most points, except the nation building. Post WWII, the US military established bases in West Germany and Japan, and directed the the foundational elements that provided those two countries with the greatest postwar economic achievements outside of America, while instilling peaceful transitions and keeping the communists at bay.

Are US forces still in either country? Why?

I have great problems with how this withdrawal is happening.....because it will clearly cause the slaughter of many helpful to the West over the past 20 years, and will clearly lead to the subjugation and enslavement of the women. This is a global issue that the US took leadership of a couple decades ago; it is not fair that the US is the globe's policeman, but is the role that has been assumed, and welcomed since 1945.

Now, the US has just up and left, or rather is in a ****** up attempt to do so, and has greatly miscalculated the capabilities of the Taliban. Will there be genocide, or is this a "hope and change" Taliban?

I know that US soldiers should not bear the responsibilities of ****** up domestic politicians, or keep all the world's bad guys in check. But "with great power comes great responsibility...." and I would like to understand how this particular set of US decisions, leading to great suffering in the very people that were regarded as allies yesterday, literally , does not embolden the Russians, the Chinese, and all those who will seek to diminish US influence everywhere. In six months, I fear this will look like a "reverse Hiroshima" where US actions cost hundreds of thousands of casualties......for the benefit of global war, discord and distress.

The fault is still with the bad guys, the Taliban and those supporting them, funding them. But are US actions not supporting the same Taliban?

Disgusting.
 
Holy hell. The demise of Afghanistan is happening much faster than thought possible.

I sure as hell hope that Westerners are not rounded up and used to negotiate with the US.
We already know that, when it matters--now--the US leadership doesn't give a **** about the Afghani people.

I do not know the source, but here is a link to the first update that showed on my feed:


NDTV: President Ashraf Ghani Flees Afghanistan, Taliban Take Over Kabul: Report.
 
Holy hell. The demise of Afghanistan is happening much faster than thought possible.

I sure as hell hope that Westerners are not rounded up and used to negotiate with the US.
We already know that, when it matters--now--the US leadership doesn't give a **** about the Afghani people.

I do not know the source, but here is a link to the first update that showed on my feed:


NDTV: President Ashraf Ghani Flees Afghanistan, Taliban Take Over Kabul: Report.
I’d say in less than a week heads be popping off and I’m sure YouTube will most certainly allow that content.
 
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