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The Official Thread Dedicated to "Trump Winning"

Sad that we have a Vice-President who tools around with foreign policy and national security soley to advance his family's personal goals. Pathetic really. Suprised (sic, not really) that none of you have a problem with it.
I fixed your quote in order to make you look way way less hypocritical.

This is not seperate from, but an extension of the Russia investigation, it's all very much connected.
You have never typed truer words, Tibs. This is nothing more than an extension of the democrats endless campaign to get Trump out of office. There doesn't need to be proof, there doesn't need to be credible evidence, there is ONLY the persecution.

Trump is trying to discredit the US Intelligence Community's assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.
Dear GOD! Let it Go! Facebook themselves did MORE to swing votes toward Clinton than any moronic Russian FBrs ever could have done to sway public opinion. In testimony before congress, Facebook and Google employees testified that there are algorithms written in to the social media and browser software that represented Clinton in a positive light and Trump in a negative light and that the overall effect of these algorithms were to sway (at minimum 2.5 million votes to Clinton and more likely around 10 million votes.)

THERE'S your Collusion! But it wasn't Russian.
 
Interesting. I happened to view CNN's website this afternoon and figured Trump was already removed from office after today's testimony based on their story. Across the masthead all in red in huge font, "BOMBSHELL" MSN pretty much reported the same. They both went on to assert that a quid pro quo was proven today and Trump is basically screwed.

Funny.....I get home and check other sources and find that nobody else in America thought today went well for Dems and today's testimony was not only a nothingburger but that this BOMBSHELL witness contradicted his own testimony and added nothing to the impeachment effort. Geez, it's almost like they are trying to mislead people to get more clicks.
 
Facts aren't important. What's important is what he felt or thought at the time.

The BOMB dropped in the morning was diffused by the afternoon.


When asked what he wanted from UKRAINE Trump replied:

“Nothing. I don’t want a thing. NO quid pro quo.”

Is that what Trump said to you directly? Sondland: “YES”
 
Is it too late to get back to the obstruction of justice or do we have to make up another lie?
 
Boom!

This absolutely sums it all up.

Why Dems are so worried after latest round of impeachment hearings

If coup-coup Nancy Pelosi has a panic button, now would be a good time to lean on it. With signs that Americans are tuning out the impeachment hearings, the clock is ticking on Democrats’ chance to make their case.

Pelosi is clearly worried, telling fellow Dems it’s a “weak response” to “let the election decide” whether President Trump should be removed.

“That dangerous position only adds to the urgency of our action, because *POTUS is jeopardizing the integrity of the 2020 elections,” the speaker wrote in a “Dear Colleague” letter to her House members.

The letter seemed strange enough when it became public Monday, but Tuesday’s hearing more than justified her fear and desperation. With her party now having failed to hit anything close to pay dirt after three long days of public testimony, she is trying to keep her members on board the impeachment train, lest the whole effort crash in failure and disgrace.

Alas, Tuesday wasn’t much help. As they did in the first hearings last week, Dems again failed to make the Ukraine *issue the crime of the century or even of the Trump presidency. Their hyperbolic descriptions are not even close to the pedestrian evidence they’re producing.

Their problem last week largely centered on the fact that none of the witnesses were actual witnesses to any relevant events, including the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky.

They solved that problem early Tuesday with the day’s first two witnesses, Jennifer Williams and Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, both of whom listened to the call in the White House. Finally, the impeachment zealots had someone with firsthand knowledge, as opposed to the second- and third-handers last week.

They got even closer in the afternoon, with former officials Tim Morrison and Kurt Volker higher up the food chain. In contrast to all the other witnesses, both had actually met Trump!

But still the end zone proved elusive. The closest Dems came was when Williams, an aide to Vice President Mike Pence, said she found the July 25 call “unusual.” Vindman declared it an “inappropriate and improper” demand and reported it to lawyers.

Quickly, though, Republicans cleverly succeeded in contrasting those two reactions, with Texas Rep. John Ratcliffe saying, “There is no consensus about what you heard,” and that any impeachment case “must be clear, overwhelming and compelling.”

Earlier, Ratcliffe had stacked the transcripts of 10 long depositions and noted that not a single witness had accused Trump of “bribery,” the focus-group-tested word Dems have now adopted as their battle cry.

The cumulative effect was to create a sense of doubt about the heart of impeachment. Was there really a crime, or was it just a difference of opinion? And how much of it is purely partisan?

The doubts took a leap when Vindman conceded that lawyers said it was legal for Trump to temporarily withhold more than $400 million in aid to Ukraine.

Once fair-minded Americans seriously entertain the question of whether the actions involved even amount to a crime, most will probably find it difficult to conclude Trump represents an urgent threat and must be removed immediately. All the more so when they can read the call transcript for themselves, as well as learn that Ukraine got the promised aid and never launched any of the investigations Trump requested.

And so Day Three of the public hearings went pretty much as the first two. Long hours of testimony, some it interesting and relevant, punctuated by mutual expressions of contempt between Democratic Chairman Adam Schiff and Republican members.

Vindman was a strong witness, but a strange one, too. He presented himself as an Alexander Haig-like “I’m in charge here” figure, when he was actually far down the pecking order.

His inflated sense of self-importance seemed to be key to his alarm over the phone call. As he put it, he believed “that if Ukraine pursued an investigation in the 2016 elections, the Bidens and Burisma, it would be interpreted as a partisan play” and Ukraine would lose bipartisan support, which in turn would “undermine US national security and advance Russia’s strategic objectives.”

He conceded, smugly, that he even advised Zelensky “to stay out of US domestic politics.”

He said Trump would be acting against US policy if he got the investigations. Although he later conceded that Trump as president could change the policy, he didn’t seem to mean it.


And yet Vindman, wearing his Army uniform and medals, including a Purple Heart he was awarded after being injured in Iraq, was the Dems’ star of the day.

He could be a major figure in the secretive run-up to the hearings, a notion bolstered when Vindman, with Schiff running interference, refused to name a person in the intelligence community he told about the call.

Because the so-called whistleblower was a CIA officer, some in the GOP believe Vindman set the whole saga in motion and helped to shape the Dems’ case.

Adding to the surreal quality of the hearings is a crucial fact that gets too little attention: Trump’s policy toward Ukraine has been far stronger than President Barack Obama’s. Providing Ukraine with antitank weapons to counter Russian invasions is a direct slap at Vladimir Putin, a move Obama rejected because he feared it would provoke Putin.

Thus, removing Trump would benefit Russia, proving that, for Dems, Ukraine’s security is just another pawn in their war against the president.
 
Just caught video of the circus today, he presumed? Seriously? Wow, our tax dollars hard at work. :frusty:
 
Don Lemon thinks you're mental.


Worshipping another man while he inserts his penis into your tailpipe is the definition of "mental."

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The investigation report on the Russian hoax witch hunt that will hopefully lead to criminal charges will be released on Dec. 9th. Scurry around, swamp rats!

Breaking News

Justice Department watchdog's findings on potential FISA abuses to be released Dec. 9, Graham tells Fox News
Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz's widely anticipated report into potential Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant abuse during the 2016 election will be released Dec. 9, ahead of planned Senate testimony, Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham told Fox News on Wednesday night.
 
It's blowing up in the faces, again


Marquette Poll shows support for impeachment has slipped in Wisconsin as Trump leads 4 top Dem rival

Support for impeachment has slipped in Wisconsin, according to Wednesday's Marquette University Law School Poll.

And for the first time, President Donald Trump has surged ahead of all four top Democratic rivals in potential head-to-head matchups.

Just 40% of Wisconsin registered voters believe Trump should be impeached and removed from office

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...ment-donald-trump-democratic-race/4244453002/

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Trump surges against Democrats in Wisconsin

According to a Marquette University Law School Poll, which is a generally reliable barometer of voter sentiment in the Midwest, Trump is beating the daylights out of Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar. The rest of the Democratic cavalcade of candidates have polling numbers so low it's unlikely their even worth asking about.

What's significant is that the supposed moderates in the Democratic lineup, are performing the most poorly against Trump.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...gainst_nearly_all_democrats_in_wisconsin.html
 
The godless heathen Dems will face a mighty backlash


'Trying 2 impeach Jesus too!’

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“This president has done more for religious rights than anyone,” Pastor Jones said. “I don’t condone some of [Trump’s] behavior, but God is going to use who he wants, when he wants and how he wants.”

Jones said he believes more Christians need to stand up for their beliefs because he believes they are in danger of becoming a minority in this country.

“The homosexual community can have marches, and we can talk about climate change, but Christians can’t talk about what we believe in,” Jones said. “If we do, we’re called racist. Christians are becoming a minority.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...versial-sign/ar-BBX4dXT?ocid=spartandhp&pfr=1
 
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The Democrats’ bombshells aren’t exploding

As we enter week two of the House impeachment inquiry, it seems pretty clear that Democrats are suffering a massive ordnance failure. Their “bombshells” are not exploding.

The first unexploded bombshell came when acting ambassador to Ukraine William B. Taylor Jr. testified that a member of his embassy staff had overhead a cellphone conversation between President Trump and Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, in a Kyiv restaurant in which Trump discussed the need for Ukrainian officials to pursue “investigations.” Aha, Democrats cried! A firsthand witness could now testify they heard Trump pressing the Ukrainians for investigations.

Um, so what? Trump had already released a rough transcript of his call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in which he had pressed him for investigations. The overheard call told us nothing we did not already know. Indeed, the only one likely to get in trouble from this revelation is Sondland, who violated operational security by calling the president in public on an unsecure cellphone.

How about former Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch’s testimony? We learned that Trump fired her without explanation (which as president he had every right to do) and besmirched her reputation. Yes, Trump treated her horribly, but being a jerk is not an impeachable offense.

Then, as though to prove the point, Trump attacked her on Twitter as she was testifying, writing, “Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad.” Democrats pounced, trying to turn Trump’s blunder into a new charge of “witness intimidation.” Please. Witness intimidation is defined as “the threatening of a crucial court witnesses by pressure or extortion to compel him/her to not to testify.” Yovanovitch had already been fired as ambassador and was in the process of testifying. No bombshell there, either.

That means Democrats are failing to convince Americans that Trump’s misconduct rises to the level of treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors. In blackjack, the tie goes to the dealer; in impeachment, the tie goes to the president. If Republicans fight Democrats to a draw, Trump wins.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...22f0b0-0b22-11ea-bd9d-c628fd48b3a0_story.html

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Their heads will explode when POTUS wins again in 2020, lol
 
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The Democrats’ bombshells aren’t exploding

As we enter week two of the House impeachment inquiry, it seems pretty clear that Democrats are suffering a massive ordnance failure. Their “bombshells” are not exploding.

The first unexploded bombshell came when acting ambassador to Ukraine William B. Taylor Jr. testified that a member of his embassy staff had overhead a cellphone conversation between President Trump and Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, in a Kyiv restaurant in which Trump discussed the need for Ukrainian officials to pursue “investigations.” Aha, Democrats cried! A firsthand witness could now testify they heard Trump pressing the Ukrainians for investigations.

Um, so what? Trump had already released a rough transcript of his call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in which he had pressed him for investigations. The overheard call told us nothing we did not already know. Indeed, the only one likely to get in trouble from this revelation is Sondland, who violated operational security by calling the president in public on an unsecure cellphone.

How about former Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch’s testimony? We learned that Trump fired her without explanation (which as president he had every right to do) and besmirched her reputation. Yes, Trump treated her horribly, but being a jerk is not an impeachable offense.

Then, as though to prove the point, Trump attacked her on Twitter as she was testifying, writing, “Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad.” Democrats pounced, trying to turn Trump’s blunder into a new charge of “witness intimidation.” Please. Witness intimidation is defined as “the threatening of a crucial court witnesses by pressure or extortion to compel him/her to not to testify.” Yovanovitch had already been fired as ambassador and was in the process of testifying. No bombshell there, either.

That means Democrats are failing to convince Americans that Trump’s misconduct rises to the level of treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors. In blackjack, the tie goes to the dealer; in impeachment, the tie goes to the president. If Republicans fight Democrats to a draw, Trump wins.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...22f0b0-0b22-11ea-bd9d-c628fd48b3a0_story.html

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Their heads will explode when POTUS wins again in 2020, lol

Smoking gun was loaded with blanks
 
What we got here is more self-important Deep State bureaucrats praising fellow swamp creatures

So dull and boring
 
10:39 A.M. — Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) weighs in on today’s hearings:

A notable theme in these hearings: some career officials seem to act as though their job is to decide America’s foreign policy

It’s the President who sets policy—not unelected bureaucrats. POTUS believes every dollar we send abroad should be questioned. And most Americans agree.

— Mark Meadows (@RepMarkMeadows) November 21, 2019



Yeah, I've got a question: Why isn't Obama being investigated for sending $33.6 Billion to ******* IRAN!? How did American taxpayers benefit from that act of treason?

http://www.americanlibertyreport.com/articles/how-much-money-did-obama-send-to-iran/
 
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These hearings and witness testimony are increasingly devastating for the Trump presidency. Really shocking to see the level of corruption at the highest levels of the US government. It's what you would expect from a banana republic in some far away land. Who knows what will come of impeachment, but every American should be downright embarrassed by the antics of this out of control, unhinged President. It's beyond pathetic.

In other news, dark clouds forming for a close Trump ally.

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Israeli Justice Ministry: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicted on fraud, breach of trust and bribery.</p>— The Associated Press (@AP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP/status/1197553083858984961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
 
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The Democrats’ bombshells aren’t exploding

As we enter week two of the House impeachment inquiry, it seems pretty clear that Democrats are suffering a massive ordnance failure. Their “bombshells” are not exploding.

The first unexploded bombshell came when acting ambassador to Ukraine William B. Taylor Jr. testified that a member of his embassy staff had overhead a cellphone conversation between President Trump and Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, in a Kyiv restaurant in which Trump discussed the need for Ukrainian officials to pursue “investigations.” Aha, Democrats cried! A firsthand witness could now testify they heard Trump pressing the Ukrainians for investigations.

Um, so what? Trump had already released a rough transcript of his call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in which he had pressed him for investigations. The overheard call told us nothing we did not already know. Indeed, the only one likely to get in trouble from this revelation is Sondland, who violated operational security by calling the president in public on an unsecure cellphone.

How about former Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch’s testimony? We learned that Trump fired her without explanation (which as president he had every right to do) and besmirched her reputation. Yes, Trump treated her horribly, but being a jerk is not an impeachable offense.

Then, as though to prove the point, Trump attacked her on Twitter as she was testifying, writing, “Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad.” Democrats pounced, trying to turn Trump’s blunder into a new charge of “witness intimidation.” Please. Witness intimidation is defined as “the threatening of a crucial court witnesses by pressure or extortion to compel him/her to not to testify.” Yovanovitch had already been fired as ambassador and was in the process of testifying. No bombshell there, either.

That means Democrats are failing to convince Americans that Trump’s misconduct rises to the level of treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors. In blackjack, the tie goes to the dealer; in impeachment, the tie goes to the president. If Republicans fight Democrats to a draw, Trump wins.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...22f0b0-0b22-11ea-bd9d-c628fd48b3a0_story.html

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Their heads will explode when POTUS wins again in 2020, lol

Yeah i will admit I am having a hard time seeing anyone in the Dem field that will even come close... it’s going to be a popcorn worthy meltdown if that occurs... like a flood of melted snowflake are going to destroy cities and freak out uncontrollably
 
Good God, talk about a broken ******* record:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dear members of the media, if you want to understand why no one cares about impeachment and minds are not being changed, watch this and understand. <a href="https://t.co/TmMKLddr0k">pic.twitter.com/TmMKLddr0k</a></p>— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) <a href="https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1197491328206213121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Ha ha

The only thing we learned today is black people really like to use the speakerphone option on their cellphone in public!
 
Interesting article from Psychology Today. Helps explain certain aspects - though not all - of Trump's cult-like base of support. A good read while we wait for the impeachment hearings to proceed.

An Analysis of Trump Supporters Has Identified 5 Key Traits
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...-trump-supporters-has-identified-5-key-traits

A new report sheds light on the psychological basis for Trump's support.


The lightning-fast ascent and political invincibility of Donald Trump has left many experts baffled and wondering, “How did we get here?” Any accurate and sufficient answer to that question must not only focus on Trump himself, but also on his uniquely loyal supporters. Given their extreme devotion and unwavering admiration for their highly unpredictable and often inflammatory leader, some have turned to the field of psychology for scientific explanations based on precise quantitative data and established theoretical frameworks.

Although analyses and studies by psychologists and neuroscientists have provided many thought-provoking explanations for his enduring support, the accounts of different experts often vary greatly, sometimes overlapping and other times conflicting. However insightful these critiques may be, it is apparent that more research and examination is needed to hone in on the exact psychological and social factors underlying this peculiar human behavior.

In a recent review paper published in the Journal of Social and Political Psychology, Psychologist and UC Santa Cruz professor Thomas Pettigrew argues that five major psychological phenomena can help explain this exceptional political event.

1. Authoritarian Personality Syndrome

Authoritarianism refers to the advocacy or enforcement of strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom, and is commonly associated with a lack of concern for the opinions or needs of others. Authoritarian personality syndrome—a well-studied and globally-prevalent condition—is a state of mind that is characterized by belief in total and complete obedience to one’s authority. Those with the syndrome often display aggression toward outgroup members, submissiveness to authority, resistance to new experiences, and a rigid hierarchical view of society. The syndrome is often triggered by fear, making it easy for leaders who exaggerate threat or fear monger to gain their allegiance.

Although authoritarian personality is found among liberals, it is more common among the right-wing around the world. President Trump’s speeches, which are laced with absolutist terms like “losers” and “complete disasters,” are naturally appealing to those with the syndrome.

While research showed that Republican voters in the U.S. scored higher than Democrats on measures of authoritarianism before Trump emerged on the political scene, a 2016 Politico survey found that high authoritarians greatly favored then-candidate Trump, which led to a correct prediction that he would win the election, despite the polls saying otherwise.

2. Social dominance orientation

Social dominance orientation (SDO)—which is distinct but related to authoritarian personality syndrome—refers to people who have a preference for the societal hierarchy of groups, specifically with a structure in which the high-status groups have dominance over the low-status ones. Those with SDO are typically dominant, tough-minded, and driven by self-interest.

In Trump’s speeches, he appeals to those with SDO by repeatedly making a clear distinction between groups that have a generally higher status in society (White), and those groups that are typically thought of as belonging to a lower status (immigrants and minorities).

A 2016 survey study of 406 American adults published this year in the journal Personality and Individual Differences found that those who scored high on both SDO and authoritarianism were those who intended to vote for Trump in the election.

3. Prejudice

It would be grossly unfair and inaccurate to say that every one of Trump’s supporters have prejudice against ethnic and religious minorities, but it would be equally inaccurate to say that many do not. It is a well-known fact that the Republican party, going at least as far back to Richard Nixon’s “southern strategy,” used strategies that appealed to bigotry, such as lacing speeches with “dog whistles”—code words that signaled prejudice toward minorities that were designed to be heard by racists but no one else.

While the dog whistles of the past were more subtle, Trump’s are sometimes shockingly direct. There’s no denying that he routinely appeals to bigoted supporters when he calls Muslims “dangerous” and Mexican immigrants “rapists” and “murderers,” often in a blanketed fashion. Perhaps unsurprisingly, a new study has shown that support for Trump is correlated with a standard scale of modern racism.

4. Intergroup contact

Intergroup contact refers to contact with members of groups that are outside one’s own, which has been experimentally shown to reduce prejudice. As such, it’s important to note that there is growing evidence that Trump’s white supporters have experienced significantly less contact with minorities than other Americans.

For example, a 2016 study found that “…the racial and ethnic isolation of Whites at the zip-code level is one of the strongest predictors of Trump support.” This correlation persisted while controlling for dozens of other variables. In agreement with this finding, the same researchers found that support for Trump increased with the voters’ physical distance from the Mexican border.

5. Relative deprivation
Relative deprivation refers to the experience of being deprived of something to which one believes they are entitled. It is the discontent felt when one compares their position in life to others who they feel are equal or inferior but have unfairly had more success than them.

Common explanations for Trump’s popularity among non-bigoted voters involve economics. There is no doubt that some Trump supporters are simply angry that American jobs are being lost to Mexico and China, which is certainly understandable, although these loyalists often ignore the fact that some of these careers are actually being lost due to the accelerating pace of automation.

These Trump supporters are experiencing relative deprivation, and are common among the swing states like Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. This kind of deprivation is specifically referred to as “relative,” as opposed to “absolute,” because the feeling is often based on a skewed perception of what one is entitled to. For example, an analysis conducted by FiveThirtyEight estimated that the median annual income of Trump supporters was $72,000.

If such data is accurate, the portrayal of most Trump supporters as “working class” citizens rebelling against Republican elites may be more myth than fact.
 
Really shocking to see the level of corruption at the highest levels of the US government.
Right? The Biden thing, right? Dude, so glad you finally watched that video. Welcome aboard!
 
Right? The Biden thing, right? Dude, so glad you finally watched that video. Welcome aboard!

And talk about a broken ******* record. And the psychology of Trump supporters? What a joke. If you're not into Socialism or want to see this country crumble into disarray, you must be a Trump supporter!
 
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