Right. But what we are trying to determine is what your definition of fully automatic is. That is important. I don't know what I am arguing with. Again, people who should know better, reporters and so forth who are responsible for reporting accurate news have called the AR-15 a fully automatic weapon, which it is most definitely not. As stated it is presently illegal to own full auto, unless you have a special license. Again, I do not like to infer, but judging from your response, since one could illegally obtain those items for the AR, you would include the AR as a full auto. For example, once the government considers a gun full auto, it always is. an example would be the M-14. You cannot buy military surplus M-14 like you can M-1 Garands, even though the selector switch has been removed because the government will always consider an M-14 full auto. I think that is bullshit.