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Kenny is statistically the worst QB in the league, throws picks, accuracy and decision making are subpar. Half the catchable ball are caught by the other team. Playcalling doesn't affect accuracy.
 
bigben said:
Kenny is statistically the worst QB in the league, throws picks, accuracy and decision making are subpar. Half the catchable ball are caught by the other team. Playcalling doesn't affect accuracy.
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Scheme where WRs have a difficult time getting separation and shoddy O-line play can factor in accuracy. In Kenny's case his lack of confidence leads to happy feet. Then he isn't in the process drifting away from pressure but often into it.

If you are laying the problem primarily at Kenny's feet I will have to disagree with you. He isn't being coached up.
 
bigben said:
Kenny is statistically the worst QB in the league, throws picks, accuracy and decision making are subpar. Half the catchable ball are caught by the other team. Playcalling doesn't affect accuracy.
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I am incredulous just how naive (or maybe homer-ish) this fan base has become for this QB. Hell, even Baker Mayfield had respectable numbers despite a motley crew of castaway OC's.

Canada's playbook has been bad, but that does not excuse:
  • KP's piss poor pocket awareness (which resulted in him getting injured)
  • Inaccuracies
  • Sub-par arm strength, which is why we dont throw in the middle of the field
Sure, KP may be 'serviceable' if we got him a Sean McVay OC, and a All-Pro OL. But so would almost any backup QB in the league.


IMO this injury gives us the perfect excuse to begin scouting new QB's for this upcoming draft.
 
Bigappleyinzer said:
I am incredulous just how naive (or maybe homer-ish) this fan base has become for this QB. Hell, even Baker Mayfield had respectable numbers despite a motley crew of castaway OC's.

Canada's playbook has been bad, but that does not excuse:
  • KP's piss poor pocket awareness (which resulted in him getting injured)
  • Inaccuracies
  • Sub-par arm strength, which is why we dont throw in the middle of the field
Sure, KP may be 'serviceable' if we got him a Sean McVay OC, and a All-Pro OL. But so would almost any backup QB in the league.


IMO this injury gives us the perfect excuse to begin scouting new QB's for this upcoming draft.
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The HC,OC and DC have to go. Nothing matters until then. If you think they're ever sniffing another championship with the HC we have, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'll sell you cheap. I've got the last 13+ years and a HOF qb in his prime that says the QB is the least of their worries.

Kenny may very well not be the guy,but there is absolutely no way for anyone to judge that in this **** show.

There's not a single player on this roster who should be scapegoated in this mess. Other than that clown they got from the patriots. I wouldn't let him see the field again.
 
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I am no way emotionally invested in this team anymore. It was amazingly easy to go out in my yard and trim trees for the rest of the day at halftime. 10 years ago, I would have stayed until the bitter end. I have better things to do than watch the kind of crap that went on yesterday, and I damn sure ain't paying any money to watch or buy merch.
 
Sarge said:
I am no way emotionally invested in this team anymore. It was amazingly easy to go out in my yard and trim trees for the rest of the day at halftime. 10 years ago, I would have stayed until the bitter end. I have better things to do than watch the kind of crap that went on yesterday, and I damn sure ain't paying any money to watch or buy merch.
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I did stay until the bitter end unfortunately. I felt good and should've cut the grass. Today, my back isn't cooperating so the grass grows taller. ****
 
SteelerSask2 said:
I'm sorry I've seen Mitch, Rudolph and even a HOF Q. Look subpar with current staff. I'd have to see Kenny with someone else look bad before I'd cut bait. Only two more years to decide. And quite honestly if Canada is back next year.....I'm on fan hiatus
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I'm kinda on hiatus now. Look, I am a positive guy. But I don't like going into a game hopeless and that's what this feels like. And I mean nothing. I think the players feel hopeless too and that is why it looks as bad as it does.

They are stuck though for sure. Even if they fire Canada, can you change the whole system during the season? Cause you have too...this is terrible. You can't shine shiit.
 
Burghthing21 said:
How can Kendrick Green be so bad here and average to serviceable on a line missing their best? MUST BE THE COACHING!!!!!!!
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I don't know how we can disagree. Green was simply terrible with the Steelers, goes to the Texans, faces the mighty Steelers D and does a serviceable job as a backup to a backup.

Isaac Seumalo was really good for arguably the best OL in professional football, comes to the Steelers, and stinks through four games.

Heeeeey ... maybe the coaching is the issue?

Tomlin: Naaah.
 
slashsteel said:
Scheme where WRs have a difficult time getting separation and shoddy O-line play can factor in accuracy. In Kenny's case his lack of confidence leads to happy feet. Then he isn't in the process drifting away from pressure but often into it.

If you are laying the problem primarily at Kenny's feet I will have to disagree with you. He isn't being coached up.
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What would Matt Canada do with Tyrique Hill and Jaylen Waddle? We kinda know, don't we? He had Calvin Austin III and Diontae Johnson week 1 and at least a dozen times had his WR's run about 15 yards to the sideline on a route 4-6 yards past the LOS, and stop.

So that is what he would do.
 
diver said:
I'm kinda on hiatus now. Look, I am a positive guy. But I don't like going into a game hopeless and that's what this feels like. And I mean nothing. I think the players feel hopeless too and that is why it looks as bad as it does.

They are stuck though for sure. Even if they fire Canada, can you change the whole system during the season? Cause you have too...this is terrible. You can't shine shiit.
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Pretty much how everyone who knows football and loves team feels. Look they might pull the rabbit of mediocrity out of their ***** like last year but they simply are not going to progress to what I thought might happen in off season moves and blame is clearly pointed at one man here. Canada is what he is. He is not the bottom line why season is a disappointment that's above him.
 
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"Damage" is a good way to put it. I was watching Brock Purdy play in the late window, and all he did today was go 20-21 for 283 yards. He was the last pick in the 2022 draft. An afterthought. Yet here he is, absolutely thriving in an NFL system that actually puts players where they should be, and utilizes the whole field with plays that make sense.

I'm disappointed as hell with KP, but I have to wonder how he may have performed with the coaching and coordination in San Francisco...and how different Purdy might look under this bullshlt regime in Pittsburgh.
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Purdy would look terrible and would already be on the bench in Pittsburgh based on his draft status. Now 100% credit to Purdy for making plays, but man, those guys are running open out there. Week 1, San Francisco had multiple players wide open on so many plays...something I haven't seen in Pittsburgh for years. I'm not sure if Pickett is at Purdy's level in SF, but he would certainly be much better than he is here.

Canada is bad at his job and Tomlin doesn't help turn this unit into a conservative offense afraid of making mistakes. He doesn't even seem to care that 2 TDs in a week is an outstanding effort.
 
I still think Tomlin is an outstanding coach. I really do. I just think his time is up here. He's climbing the mountain so to speak. He needs to get off the mountain, step back and actually see it. If he does that, he would probably be an outstanding coach elsewhere. But it's gotta happen for his sake and the Steelers. It sounded like he was saying last week that he really doesn't coach Kenny Pickett except for leadership, etc. OK. But I think if you extrapolate that out, he pretty much lets the OC run the show offensively. What the hell is he thinking? It isn't like this guy has shown anything. That says to me this is a head coach who thinks he is doing right but has lost perspective. Sometimes you gotta step away to find perspective.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Purdy would look terrible and would already be on the bench in Pittsburgh based on his draft status. Now 100% credit to Purdy for making plays, but man, those guys are running open out there. Week 1, San Francisco had multiple players wide open on so many plays...something I haven't seen in Pittsburgh for years. I'm not sure if Pickett is at Purdy's level in SF, but he would certainly be much better than he is here.

Canada is bad at his job and Tomlin doesn't help turn this unit into a conservative offense afraid of making mistakes. He doesn't even seem to care that 2 TDs in a week is an outstanding effort.
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I am willing to bet that 49er coach would either eliminate or minimize Kenny's bad tendencies that he is showing. Last year Kenny was a little more confident with adrenaline pushing his way, then when he soaked in more of their crap his tendencies escalated instead of minimalizing. These coaches barely develop anyone.
 
Just remember: James Conner, another player the Steelers could not figure out how to use correctly, unfortunately for Najee he might be in the same boat.
I'm sure there is a list Javon Hargrave comes to mind....others? Josh Dobbs Cardinals, Ju-Ju Smith-Schuster New England
Oh yeah, Steven Nelson CB* Texans , Kendrick Green* Texans, Ray-Ray McCloud 49ers*
 
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Bigappleyinzer said:
I am incredulous just how naive (or maybe homer-ish) this fan base has become for this QB. Hell, even Baker Mayfield had respectable numbers despite a motley crew of castaway OC's.

Canada's playbook has been bad, but that does not excuse:
  • KP's piss poor pocket awareness (which resulted in him getting injured)
  • Inaccuracies
  • Sub-par arm strength, which is why we dont throw in the middle of the field
Sure, KP may be 'serviceable' if we got him a Sean McVay OC, and a All-Pro OL. But so would almost any backup QB in the league.


IMO this injury gives us the perfect excuse to begin scouting new QB's for this upcoming draft.
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Name one QB that has done well since Canada's arrival. Who is Tomlin developing? What scheme is excelling? What positional group did well against the Niners and Texans? Few and far between.

Fans aren't excusing Kenny. It is just obvious he is only a part of the problem. Again there is bigger problems road blocking Kenny. We can't just pin the tail like he is the donkey. Canada, the positional coaches, Tomlin all have a fair share of that pie. It is easy to look around and see within the team there is few positive consistencies.

To dismiss him not getting coached up properly is being short sighted.

Kenny is a piece of the problem a smaller piece of the **** pie.
 
ExUSAF said:
I thought the thread was "There is no season left". Stoned by 2nd and 3rd stringers on the OL and shredded by a rookie QB. This team is trash from ownership on down. Finally, I think Tomlin finally gets a losing season. I can't imagine this team finishing better than 7-10. What bothers me is the only people who seem to care are the members on this board.
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Tomlin is the master of mediocre miracles
No matter how bad the **** show stinks he’ll get at least 8-8-1

It’s the only thing mediocre Mike knows, and he can drive to ..500 in his sleep

Greatest coach ever
 
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