Things Mike Tomlin can do to fix the Steelers next season ( besides resign 🤣 )

[Fiji Mariner]

there is racism in the world. but sports is usually the great equalizer. most just care about winning. not saying this is you, but most times if you look for racism you find racism.

Just like it is demeaning to a person of any color to assume their reasoning is found in racial bias without 100% knowledge of such…calling someone a racist because they are unhappy with performance is pretty damn offensive to a non racist human using reason based thought.

It is a weak assumption by a weak minded person to assume that someone’s logical reasoning based opinion is racially motivated.

Sure racism exists…that is undeniable
What is also undeniable is that many like to play a race card as some form of trump card even when a person’s opinion has nothing racially motivated behind it.

Tomlin is not up to the task whatever race, religion, creed, marital status or pronoun he goes by…as an NFL HC his results for many years have been lacking unless the standard sought is mediocrity.

It’s a go to for a many social media keyboardists though because they don’t like the logical reasoning based opinion presented by differing opinions…and that is pretty sad.

But hey if you’ve played the card with success in the past I get why the weak minded person continues to resort to it.

 

[Steelman25270]

Question is " How can Mike fix the Steelers" Trade TJ,Pickens,Fitz. (Load up on picks) Go get Mason Rudolph cheap or Fields (save money) Draft OL/ Defense in 2025. Finish with 3 or 4 wins in 2025 so we get a top pick in 2026. It all starts up front, we need lines. Get those then go into 2026 season Coach,QB,WRs,RBs. Winning 9 or 10 isn't working. Time to punt it to the 1 yd line. Their's 3 top Qbs coming out in 2026 top 5 picks we need to be there to get one. Then pray Mike goes away of course. Pickens is a cancer and must go!! We seen this movie before.

 

[Litos]

well good goddamn. i see your point. poor mike is being held hostage at the peril of his own coaching and personnel decisions. holy ****. thanks for clearing this up for all of us. now we know why mike always "looks like he was given the worst scenario to a question". it's not because he's a **** coach at xs and os. its not because he makes **** decisions involving game play and clock management. it's not because he's **** at making personnel decisions. he's just a victim here. of his own demise.

He haven't had enough time to build that roster, is not his fault...

 

[Steelr4evr]

Maybe just too much wanting to be a running team, the game today a mix is how playoff teams play. I know Rooney wanted a running game. When your defense cannot get off the field and to many time third and long you cannot be consistent enough to win. Secondly just watching a few of the playoff games and teams showed more physical play in three series than we did on a whole game. We lack big time on this, or tackling ability is just poor. I will say we had a better year than most here thought. Last five games showed we are missing to many things.

They're all around soft on both sides of the ball and boy does it show over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

There's zero tactical ability coming from the coaching staff. Every single season they will ram their head into a brick wall over and over again.

I don't see a single great teacher on that entire staff. What are they teaching? It's certainly not fundamentals. They don't elevate their players to a higher level.

Their practice sessions must be trash and it certainly shows on the field in execution.

I've lost track of how many games they've looked like The Three Stooges.

Last years peak record was losing at home in back to back weeks to 2-10 teams! If you can't even beat the bad teams, you're damn sure not going to beat great teams.

They got made fools of for the last 5 games of the season.

That's going to stick with them the whole offseason. It's a damn joke. You can't fix it until you can admit it's broken. And it's damn sure busted all to hell.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

ESPN was just reporting on radio that Tomlin gets more from his teams . The real blame is on the front office . These late season fails and early PO exits only bring out the stupid chants of fire tomlin

 

[SteelerSask2]

Everyone please take a very deep breath and repeat after me. It's ok to be real ****** for 3-5 years. In fact unless you want this continously never ending groundhog day......it's necessary. You will not get coaching change and the stud players required without it. So if you are hoping Sam Darnold or other quick 8-10 win fixes......don't.

 

[diver]

Everyone please take a very deep breath and repeat after me. It's ok to be real ****** for 3-5 years. In fact unless you want this continously never ending groundhog day......it's necessary. You will not get coaching change and the stud players required without it. So if you are hoping Sam Darnold or other quick 8-10 win fixes......don't.

I agree with that. Do the Steelers? Everyone may be dealing with what is as oppossed to what ought to be.

 

[Coryea]

ESPN was just reporting on radio that Tomlin gets more from his teams . The real blame is on the front office . These late season fails and early PO exits only bring out the stupid chants of fire tomlin

HAHAHAHA, of course, and Tomlin being there 18 years has zero say on the roster, these guys kill me.

 

[Confluence]

Everyone please take a very deep breath and repeat after me. It's ok to be real ****** for 3-5 years. In fact unless you want this continously never ending groundhog day......it's necessary. You will not get coaching change and the stud players required without it. So if you are hoping Sam Darnold or other quick 8-10 win fixes......don't.

This why, when Ben got hurt, the Steelers should not have traded for Minkah.

The trade made the team and D better for years, but precluded the team from that 4-12 year to get that top pick to use on a QB.

So, in hindsight, the Minkah trade was sugary frosting on top of a really shiity tasting cake.

 

[Superman]

 

[Litos]

This why, when Ben got hurt, the Steelers should not have traded for Minkah.

The trade made the team and D better for years, but precluded the team from that 4-12 year to get that top pick to use on a QB.

So, in hindsight, the Minkah trade was sugary frosting on top of a really shiity tasting cake.

And this is gonna keep happening because we know Tomlin ceiling, but also his floor. We will never get a straight top 10 pick with him

 

[SteelerSask2]

I agree with that. Do the Steelers? Everyone may be dealing with what is as oppossed to what ought to be.

Obviously those in paid positions are going to be doing what they can to to try to make the team competitive. This is why they should have moved on after Ben. It was a clean break from the old to the new. The organization should have been taken down to the boards at that point.

 

[SteelerSask2]

This why, when Ben got hurt, the Steelers should not have traded for Minkah.

The trade made the team and D better for years, but precluded the team from that 4-12 year to get that top pick to use on a QB.

So, in hindsight, the Minkah trade was sugary frosting on top of a really shiity tasting cake.

That year probably not getting Burrows. With his head injuries probably wouldn't have wanted Tua. Herbert would have been in play.

 

[jiminoh]

The Rooney Rule was a byproduct of the hire, but it wasn't the reason they hired him. That's taking too much from who the Rooneys are and not respecting their hiring process and who Tomlin is and has been as a coach, motivator, influencer, etc.

I don't mean to start anything with you, but I've seen enough of Tomlin. I've tried to see the stubborn man's way of doing things, and spent a shitload of money going to games and buying merch. But, his ego is what's stopping this team from becoming a top contender. Offensively and defensively he sucks because he reverts back to the same 'ol, and if he wants to be a motivator or influencer, he can go and be a Cub Scout leader as far as I'm concerned. It just isn't working.

 

[Steelersfan84]

Leave

 

[Lloyd]

All the venom of the last few days should be written down and re posted next July. When next year's shitshow is fully germinated.

It won't be fully germinated by July - a lot of yinzers will be full bore into our chances of improvement by July.

Yes, it's sad but true. There will be some scapegoats added but by their nature they will only be fake hope for the yinzers, nothing tangible, nothing truly difference-making. All fraudulent solutions.

 

[Litos]

Do you think 5 straight losses to end the year, and really being dominated in all of them, wake Tomlin up to the need to change? I don't think the guy is an idiot. You gotta look at it and say, "This isn't working!", right? And if he doesn't or can't, man. I don't even know what to say.

I like the idea of adding the best DT. But they also gotta add, and play, a true NT. The NFL may be going back to more running the football. Look at those games played so far in the playoffs. 4 of the 5 teams that won had RBs go over 100.

I was listening to DK again this morning. Since they are gonna keep Tomlin, Rooney has to insist on coordinators and position coaches that are excellent but also with dominant personalities. His take, if I understood it right, is that Tomlin does discipline guys, that's not the issue, but he is actually hands off in the daily minutiae and wants his coaches to keep order. Well, you are hiring weak guys.

I'm glad you too saw the light

 

[steelhurt]

These pundits from ESPN really are morons.
They make these idiotic comments without knowing the working of this organization.
Mike Tomlin is very much involved with building the roster and heavily involved in the draft process.
Mike Tomlin hires his own coordinators and position coaches.
Mike Tomlin is very much involved in bringing in free agents.
Never, ever do his fanboys assign any responsibility or accountability to Tomlin.
It’s always someone else’s fault.
When the hey were 10-3 they all gave him the credit and not the FO.
Now that they tanked the last five games to go 10-8 oh it’s the FO that screwed up not Mike.
Total bs!

 

[topseed]

You can't fix it until you can admit it's broken.

This is the absolute crux of the matter. For some unknown reason, Tomlin cannot admit that his coaching philosophy is broken. Or outdated. Or ineffective. Or insert your negative adjective of choice here.

It's like Tomlin is a raging alcoholic who refuses to accept that he has a problem, and the Steelers' ownership enables him by backing him up after embarrassing playoff losses and/or extending his contract. In fact, Rooney is worse than an enabler; he's a supporter.

This appears to be a never-ending cycle until Tomlin passes Noll in wins. Then he'll decide on his own terms when it's time. The good (relatively speaking) news is that he's only 10 wins away from 193, so we're in all likelihood looking at 2026. Let's hope and pray that MT retires before yet another extension is offered.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Tomlin gets zero say in personnel issues

Fire Austin and hire an outside DC. Tomlin lets him coach
If the new DC thinks it's good to play Minkah back like he's returning punts then trade Minkah because it's a waste of money.

Fire Pat Meyer and hire a good OL coach
Trade George Pickens. He's talented but you can't give him money. Too unstable.
Keep Mike Williams. He's a solid outside WR. OK starter at worst and quality depth at best of you add others

Keep Fields and sign a young cheap vet to compete. Maybe Darnold, Daniel Jones, Zach WIlson. They fit Arthur Smith's system and have talent. There's no good option at QB this year. You have to roll the dice on some projects.

Let Najee walk unless you can get him back cheap. This draft should be solid at RB. Can probably get a backup for Warren in a later round.

Round 1 draft the biggest impact player available offense or defense. If TE Tyler Warren is somehow available, draft him. He's a chess piece, can block inline, lead block from backfield, short yardage QB, run all types of routes. Would allow Freiermuth to play like a big slot. If Warren is off the board get the best edge, DT or DB. I don't think there will be a WR, RB or QB that's a value in rd 1. I don't think you go OL again in rd 1.

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

This is the absolute crux of the matter. For some unknown reason, Tomlin cannot admit that his coaching philosophy is broken. Or outdated. Or ineffective. Or insert your negative adjective of choice here.

It's like Tomlin is a raging alcoholic who refuses to accept that he has a problem, and the Steelers' ownership enables him by backing him up after embarrassing playoff losses and/or extending his contract. In fact, Rooney is worse than an enabler; he's a supporter.

This appears to be a never-ending cycle until Tomlin passes Noll in wins. Then he'll decide on his own terms when it's time. The good (relatively speaking) news is that he's only 10 wins away from 193, so we're in all likelihood looking at 2026. Let's hope and pray that MT retires before yet another extension is offered.

I'm not sure he'll go once he passes Noll's record - I think the no losing season record is probably just as much in the minds of the decision makers. The Steelers seem to love catering to and extending individual milestones - a few times when Antonio Brown was on his 5/50 streak they forced balls to him late in games to get him there. I think it might take a losing season and the Steelers wins record (and possibly 200 wins) before Tomlin leaves.

 

[diver]

I'm glad you too saw the light

I thought I have for years, really. Not agreeing with every dumb thing posted and being clueless as to what is going on are two different things.

 

[Litos]

I thought I have for years, really. Not agreeing with every dumb thing posted and being clueless as to what is going on are two different things.

Yeap, there's being seriously dumb posts on the way.

 

[stillwright]

1. Hire a legitimate DC who runs a better pass rush scheme and who can maximize the man press CBs you have in stock right now... the entire front 7 scheme is a mess that overly relies on individual effort... the pass D is too predictable... then stay the **** out of the defense...

2. Add the best DT you can find ... honestly it is the biggest hole on D...

3. Replace Pat Meyers with a experienced OL coach.. but first decide what your young line does best and get a guy whose style fits that... dont have road graders trying to play finesse styles... dont have guys who best play with simple techniques trying complex, unorthadox stuff...

4. Add a true assistant head coach to the staff. Get more input on staff hires and Pawn off the stuff you dont want to do or just suck at... he could be the disciplinarian and in game strategist

5. And this will be the one everyone hates...
hire Antonio Brown to mentor Pickens..
I dont know why, but sometimes blending old crazy with new crazy works counter how people think...
and no one, not Ward, not Swann, not Stallworth.. no one has ever had the work ethic Brown did... he may simply relate better and get him to focus on what he needs to do to be great...

6. Draft another impact WR, then draft another guy late just to be safe

7. Sit down with every offensive mind you can find to get better concepts for O than just "eat clock and dont turn it over"
Set the direction the O needs to go then stay the **** out of the O

8. hire Danny smith an assistant STC who concentrates on returns... he does well on blocks, and usually good on coverages, but his return game is always subpar..
also whoever is calling for the short kickoffs trying to get great coverages, just tell them to stfu and kick it into the end zone... that burns us enough it isnt worth it...

Rooney

Do what you posted = more $$$$

Or.....keep doing the same thing and expect different results = no more $$$$

 

[diver]

Yeap, there's being seriously dumb posts on the way.

Well, the other thing is, and I'm thankful for this, I tend to be an optimist. I think every time I fish I have a chance for the big trout, or when I hunt I'm gonna bag birds or the big buck we got a picture of on the trail camera. So come July and training camp, they'll have me believing that whatever they are doing can work. It's more fun that way, and when/if it doesn't work out, I can handle it. Hell, it's Wednesday now. I was pissed for a few days like everyone...how can they be so clueless? You'd think the lack of success would make you reevaluate how you do things. So we'll see.