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You forgot the OTHER #1 draft pick at the position.
All of their special teams were sickhouse as well. Stover killed KOs and FGs, great punter, and ProBowl punt returner with Jermain Lewis 2TDs and Jamal Lewis having 1300+ yards rushing. Top receiver was TE HOFer Shannon Sharpe. Killer offensive line. Great team overall, and Dilfer only had to manage the game.And that D was very special, up there with the '85 Bears and 70's Steelers; that's some rare air. Our D today is NO where NEAR on that level: DL? No. LBs? No. Secondary? No.
Here is where I got the numbers, feel free to check it out, I'm surprised on how little it takes to get to 13th in passing in our team's history.
I'll add this to the first post as well.
somewhere below Cliff Stoudtso where did KP rank?
and Masonsomewhere below Cliff Stoudt
Who last on the list??? Whoever that is - Kenny is under him. FACTS.so where did KP rank?
I think KP was better than Mitch at least.Who last on the list??? Whoever that is - Kenny is under him. FACTS.
Who threw more TDs??? Ok, I'll concede. Kenny is second last. Tribby was our Ryan Leaf...I think KP was better than Mitch at least.
At least we didn't draft T-biscuit in the first round before having to put him to pastureWho threw more TDs??? Ok, I'll concede. Kenny is second last. Tribby was our Ryan Leaf...
Kent GrahamWho threw more TDs??? Ok, I'll concede. Kenny is second last. Tribby was our Ryan Leaf...
You beat me to it..lol. That guy was a statue.Kent Graham
aside from the TBs and Big Bens, the Steelers have trotted out some ****** QBs. Even Bubby who I loved was kinda ******You beat me to it..lol. That guy was a statue.
Yeah, I certainly remember a bunch of seasons that I knew we had zero chance at a superbowl because of the qb starting.aside from the TBs and Big Bens, the Steelers have trotted out some ****** QBs. Even Bubby who I loved was kinda ******
Landry Jones maybe a better QB than Kenny...I'll take worm burner over INTs all day!!!Kent Graham
Recently yes. But when I was younger, they could send Scott Campbell out there and I would swear they would get 1 for the thumbYeah, I certainly remember a bunch of seasons that I knew we had zero chance at a superbowl because of the qb starting.
that name drop occurring at 4:20 hmmmmKent Graham
Bubby won 1 play off game in the black and gold, and a couple of super bowls (as backup) plus he could make all the throws and had some good come back games. Fought members of the opposing defense and refused to be a mop. Bubby is a head of KennyI know a lot of people are unfairly comparing KP to Big Ben, as BB was special and a winner out of the box. KP is good in the 4th quarter and in ball control, so he has value, but where does he rank for me all time on the Steeler's All-Time list of QBs?
1. Ben Roethlisberger
2. Terry Bradshaw
3. Kordell Stewart
4. Bobby Layne
5. Neil O'Donnell
6. Tommy Maddox
7. Bubby Brister
8. Kenny Pickett
9. Mike Tomczak
10. Ed Brown
Obviously room for KP to move up, but as we stand today, he is solidly 8th in my book. Everyone above him won in the playoffs (minus Layne who is a HOFer, though he won 3 championships with the Lions and made it to 4). If he wins a playoff game this year, he'd jump to 6th. Has to make it to a SB to crack the top 5.
Where does KP rank on your scale? Unitas is not eligible since he never played a down for us.
*EDIT* Numbers from here: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/career-passing.htm
no doubtBubby won 1 play off game in the black and gold, and a couple of super bowls (as backup) plus he could make all the throws and had some good come back games. Fought members of the opposing defense and refused to be a mop. Bubby is a head of Kenny