I know double and triple coverage..what do I need to know the route for.. there are people surrounding him. Yeah that's the correct read..when Landry Jones does it it's his fault when Ben does it it's the coaches.
Tomlin sucks thread 11/6/16
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I know double and triple coverage..what do I need to know the route for.. there are people surrounding him. Yeah that's the correct read..when Landry Jones does it it's his fault when Ben does it it's the coaches.
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Where did you get those stats from? From what I remember we had 2 first downs going into the 4th quarter and we're 0 for 9 on 3rd downs. How would that all work out I wonder?
Exactly my point always my point when I defend him. If credit was given to him when we win I wouldn't say **** about all the blame being heaped on him when we lose. That's the **** I don't like..
Meanwhile you will never see me praise him when we win or blame him when we lose. I praise players and I blame players. I don't pretend to know what they did all week in practice and meetings to know what the game plan was.. I can only watch the players play
What plays are you talking about, you keep saying triple coverage, which ones? You keep saying Coates didn't run the wrong route.
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Ben should have taken it upon himself to just call his own plays the rest of the time. Coaches do nothing. They just make suggestions and hope the players take them.
Because there was no indication that he did. He was open and the ball was at his feet. Ben reacted as if he was mad at himself not Coates
I wonder if Packer fans are bitching about the same thing. and want the head coach fired and the franchise QB benched. because the Elite Rodgers is sucking pretty bad lately.
Just saw Dulac said, Tomlin in the post game said that our 4th quarter surge in the passing game was because we stuck with the running game early. What the **** is he talking about????
0 for 4 the last 4 against the Rats ..say what you want about players or coaches but you are 0-4 against 1 of your main in division rivals (and a team on paper that has not as much talent) and something has to change can you imagine if the Cowpukes were 0-4 for the last 4 against the Giants or Eagles...u can bet there would be changes...Now I can bet on one thing we will give the Cowpukes all they can handle this coming Sunday..because thats the way of this team under MT...but why does it take a previous week melt down to make this team play up to its potential . I have never been a Tomlin hater can't say I have ever really liked him either but...il pesce puzza dalla testa
Here's what Steelers Coach Mike Tomlin had to say after the game:
"... we were a highly penalized group that created some third-down situations that were insurmountable and it made the going tougher for us because of that. We had some very make-able plays, but had dropped balls and such. We can't be that type of team. The margin of error is too thin to slice it in that manner. That's why we're sitting here having this conversation talking about running out of time in that football game. We are where we are. We're a 4-4 team. We accept responsibility for that but we also recognize that we're still tied for the division lead and there's optimism associated with that. But the things that are tripping us up of late have to stop. We'll come in tomorrow and look at it and proceed.
"On the injury front, Maurkice Pouncey had a dislocated finger. He'll get that addressed as soon as we get back. Jordan Dangerfield had a groin; Darrius Heyward-Bey had a mid-foot of some kind.
"But largely, like I said, not enough execution, not enough detail, some self-inflicted wounds, we ran out of time."
Come in wanting to run the football?
"I did but obviously that did not transpire. They had a lot to do with that. You've got to give those guys credit, but we're capable of more than we displayed in that area."
Why did it take so long to open up the offense?
"We just weren't interested in getting one-dimensional. We felt that we still had time. Obviously the climate changed once the punt got blocked. Prior to that we felt comfortable in terms of our ability to get it going because we were stopping them. Minus the big play we gave up to Wallace, we were playing good enough defense that we felt we didn't have to get one-dimensional from a personality standpoint. The blocked punt changed those things."
How were they stopping you?
"They were doing what they do."
Consider putting Landry Jones in?
"I did not."
Did Ben look tentative early on?
"I'll let him talk about things relative to his play in that regard. He was healthy enough to play, he was willing to play. We made the decision. We won't second guess. We won't look back at all. I appreciate his efforts and his display of will."
The penalties were on all phases. What accounted for that?
"I've got to look at the tape, but we were highly penalized. Some of them I had questions about. The roughing-the-punter, I didn't feel good about. That's life. When you're not doing things well, it makes the judgment of those type calls more significant. When you're doing the things you're supposed to do, you find ways to let those calls roll off your back. So I'm not seeking comfort. We've got to play better."
http://www.scout.com/nfl/steelers/story/1725119-steelers-lay-egg-in-baltimore
So where was this whining?? We all said the roughing was iffy.
Lack of offense, road woes steer Steelers on beaten path
November 6, 2016
Steelers running back Le’Veon Bell got little going against the Ravens defense Sunday. - Associated Press
BALTIMORE – Albert Einstein is credited with saying the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
The Steelers might want to study up on Einstein. He was a pretty smart guy.
Pittsburgh has put some of that insanity on display this season.
Against Baltimore Sunday, it was continuing to run Le’Veon Bell into the line of scrimmage when it became painfully obvious that wasn’t working.
Through three quarters, the Steelers were 0-for-9 on third downs as Bell produced 15 yards on 11 carries.
That put quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in a lot of second- and third-and-long situations and he was 8 of 18 passing for 54 yards.
It wasn’t until the Steelers finally opened things up and attacked the Ravens downfield that they had any kind of offensive success.
“I thought we came in with a good mindset,” said Steelers guard David DeCastro. “I thought we could (run the ball). We just didn’t get enough. Not being able to stay on schedule really hurt us. We wanted to keep chipping away on them.”
Chipping away is nice. Pounding your head into a stone wall? Not so much.
Of course, the Ravens made it possible for the Steelers to continue with that mindset by being pretty inept in their own right.
Outside of a 95-yard pass play to Mike Wallace – remember him? – Baltimore’s offense did next to nothing. The Ravens’ second-longest drive was 47 yards. Their second touchdown came on a blocked punt that was returned for a touchdown early in the fourth quarter.
But those are the kind of things that have happened to the Steelers on the road this season. In their last three road games – all losses – the Steelers have been outscored 85-32.
“We practice the same. The coaching is the same,” said linebacker James Harrison. “But the outcome doesn’t compare to when we’re at home.”
Again, if it doesn’t appear to be working – and it doesn’t – it might be time to change things because you can’t just expect different results.
Because of their road struggles, the Steelers are 4-4 at the midway point of the season. But that’s after a 4-1 start.
Pittsburgh has lost its last three games and has a meeting with 7-1 Dallas next week at Heinz Field.
“It’s a punch in the gut; .500 is mediocre,” said DeCastro. “We’ll see how we react. We’ve got a big game next week against the Cowboys, right? Look how they’re playing. It will be a test to see our reaction.”
Fortunately for the Steelers, that game is at home, where they have played much better than on the road.
Unfortunately for the Steelers, they still have four road games remaining. And judging from the results, this is a team that appears as if it could lose to anyone when it’s not playing in the friendly confines of Heinz Field.
That doesn’t mean there isn’t time to turn this thing around. After all, the Steelers are tied atop the AFC North standings with the Ravens, a half-game ahead of Cincinnati (3-4-1).
Their first team goal of winning the division is still there. But given this team’s struggles on the road, does anyone think it has any navigable path to the lowB repuS if that includes even one game on the road?
Heck, does anybody think the Steelers can find a way to beat the Ravens in the rematch when they meet Dec. 25 in Pittsburgh? After all, Sunday marked the fourth-straight win by Baltimore against the Steelers and fifth in the past six meetings.
If so, that might truly be considered insanity.
http://www.observer-reporter.com/20...steelers_on_beaten_path_#.WCAUeAc33nQ.twitter
November 6, 2016
Steelers running back Le’Veon Bell got little going against the Ravens defense Sunday. - Associated Press
BALTIMORE – Albert Einstein is credited with saying the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
The Steelers might want to study up on Einstein. He was a pretty smart guy.
Pittsburgh has put some of that insanity on display this season.
Against Baltimore Sunday, it was continuing to run Le’Veon Bell into the line of scrimmage when it became painfully obvious that wasn’t working.
Through three quarters, the Steelers were 0-for-9 on third downs as Bell produced 15 yards on 11 carries.
That put quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in a lot of second- and third-and-long situations and he was 8 of 18 passing for 54 yards.
It wasn’t until the Steelers finally opened things up and attacked the Ravens downfield that they had any kind of offensive success.
“I thought we came in with a good mindset,” said Steelers guard David DeCastro. “I thought we could (run the ball). We just didn’t get enough. Not being able to stay on schedule really hurt us. We wanted to keep chipping away on them.”
Chipping away is nice. Pounding your head into a stone wall? Not so much.
Of course, the Ravens made it possible for the Steelers to continue with that mindset by being pretty inept in their own right.
Outside of a 95-yard pass play to Mike Wallace – remember him? – Baltimore’s offense did next to nothing. The Ravens’ second-longest drive was 47 yards. Their second touchdown came on a blocked punt that was returned for a touchdown early in the fourth quarter.
But those are the kind of things that have happened to the Steelers on the road this season. In their last three road games – all losses – the Steelers have been outscored 85-32.
“We practice the same. The coaching is the same,” said linebacker James Harrison. “But the outcome doesn’t compare to when we’re at home.”
Again, if it doesn’t appear to be working – and it doesn’t – it might be time to change things because you can’t just expect different results.
Because of their road struggles, the Steelers are 4-4 at the midway point of the season. But that’s after a 4-1 start.
Pittsburgh has lost its last three games and has a meeting with 7-1 Dallas next week at Heinz Field.
“It’s a punch in the gut; .500 is mediocre,” said DeCastro. “We’ll see how we react. We’ve got a big game next week against the Cowboys, right? Look how they’re playing. It will be a test to see our reaction.”
Fortunately for the Steelers, that game is at home, where they have played much better than on the road.
Unfortunately for the Steelers, they still have four road games remaining. And judging from the results, this is a team that appears as if it could lose to anyone when it’s not playing in the friendly confines of Heinz Field.
That doesn’t mean there isn’t time to turn this thing around. After all, the Steelers are tied atop the AFC North standings with the Ravens, a half-game ahead of Cincinnati (3-4-1).
Their first team goal of winning the division is still there. But given this team’s struggles on the road, does anyone think it has any navigable path to the lowB repuS if that includes even one game on the road?
Heck, does anybody think the Steelers can find a way to beat the Ravens in the rematch when they meet Dec. 25 in Pittsburgh? After all, Sunday marked the fourth-straight win by Baltimore against the Steelers and fifth in the past six meetings.
If so, that might truly be considered insanity.
http://www.observer-reporter.com/20...steelers_on_beaten_path_#.WCAUeAc33nQ.twitter
and the trend is the same, go figure
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In translation. "even if something is not working we are going to keep doing it until the game gets out of hand" Great idea coach!
They haven't been able to run up the middle on the Ravens ever since Bettis retired, but they still try it way too much. It makes me want to break things.
And Tomlin isn't just a bad coach, he's a ******* horrible coach.
So if the coaching is the same in dominant wins at home what would be the issue? Please elaborate on what the coaches should change and why?
After all, they did it last year. In the first Ravens game in 2015, Bell rushed for 129 yards and a touchdown on just 22 carries, and that was a game in which Ben Roethlisberger did not play, with the Ravens anticipating a heavy workload for Bell.
In the second Ravens game of the 2015 season, Bell was already out for the season, but the running game was still effective, with DeAngelo Williams picking up a 100-yard game on 17 carries and two touchdowns on the ground. Granted, they lost both games as much as they lost this one, but this should show that there is no excuse for simply having no ground game against the Ravens.
http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2016/11/no-excuses-steelers-struggles-ground/
Yes, and the worst Rats team in recent memory. One of those losses was to Ryan Mallett and 8 guys that were pulled from McDonalds. How anyone can defend that I'll never know.
Head Coach should change because he isn't winning enough with a franchise QB,
the team looks like garbage against inferior teams far too often
he isn't at least splitting the rats, as you need to win division games
the team is going backwards instead of forwards
too many undisciplined penalties, in every aspect of the team O/D/STs
he makes no game adjustments (that work) not a X and O coach - obviously
yinz know you will never agree to can Tomlin so your questions really make no sense..............
and that blame for not having the team ready goes toooooooooooo
drumroll
the head coach
Thanks for answering the question. I'm going to listen to Harrison who is known to not sugar coat anything.
It made Alot of sense this is the second time two leaders of the team first Ben and now Harrison have come out and said there is no lack of coaching or preparation for home games vs road games.
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oh yeah Tomlin's buddy Deebo, you have a bigger chance of you wanting Tomlin gone than him.
But I know your opinion won't change, so this surprises me none.