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Yes I am extreme in my support of freedom, liberty and the Constitution. You are extreme in your support of communism, therefore I am better than you.
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Then there are 70 million extremists in this country. Count me in. This election was the biggest fraud on the American people in history. Just because the courts punted on it means ****.
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I see you're still living in your upside down, la la land world.
Hope you snap out of it someday.
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The guy who believes that government running every aspect of our lives is a good thing says I live in La La Land. Now that is unintentional comedy gold.
You can even search by state!
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Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation
Explore a sampling of recent proven instances of election fraud from across the country. The database is intended to demonstrate the vulnerabilities in the election system and the many ways in which fraud is committed.
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The guy who believes that I believe 'government running every aspect of our lives is a good thing,' is certainly living in La La Land.
Get a grip, come up for air, join the rest of civilized society. It's never too late.
Tibs has been smoking that parmesan cheese again.
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Interesting findings from an indepth analysis of Jan 6th insurrection.
Fears of White People Losing Out Permeate Capitol Rioters’ Towns, Study Finds
Counties with the most significant declines in the non-Hispanic white population were the most likely to be homes to people who stormed the Capitol.
When the political scientist Robert Pape began studying the issues that motivated the 380 or so people arrested in connection with the attack against the Capitol on Jan. 6, he expected to find that the rioters were driven to violence by the lingering effects of the 2008 Great Recession.
But instead he found something very different: Most of the people who took part in the assault came from places, his polling and demographic data showed, that were awash in fears that the rights of minorities and immigrants were crowding out the rights of white people in American politics and culture.
If Mr. Pape’s initial conclusions — published on Tuesday in The Washington Post — hold true, they would suggest that the Capitol attack has historical echoes reaching back to before the Civil War, he said in an interview over the weekend. In the shorter term, he added, the study would appear to connect Jan. 6 not only to the once-fringe right-wing theory called the Great Replacement, which holds that minorities and immigrants are seeking to take over the country, but also to events like the far-right rally in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017 where crowds of white men marched with torches chanting, “Jews will not replace us!”
“If you look back in history, there has always been a series of far-right extremist movements responding to new waves of immigration to the United States or to movements for civil rights by minority groups,” Mr. Pape said. “You see a common pattern in the Capitol insurrectionists. They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future.”
One fact stood out in Mr. Pape’s study, conducted with the help of researchers at the Chicago Project on Security and Threats, a think tank he runs at the University of Chicago. Counties with the most significant declines in the non-Hispanic white population are the most likely to produce insurrectionists. This finding held true, Mr. Pape determined, even when controlling for population size, distance to Washington, unemployment rate and urban or rural location.
Law enforcement officials have said 800 to 1,000 people entered the Capitol on Jan. 6, and prosecutors have spent the past three months tracking down many of them in what they have described as one of the largest criminal investigations in U.S. history. In recent court filings, the government has hinted that more than 400 people may ultimately face charges, including illegal entry, assault of police officers and the obstruction of the official business of Congress.
In his study, Mr. Pape determined that only about 10 percent of those charged were members of established far-right organizations like the Oath Keepers militia or the nationalist extremist group the Proud Boys. But unlike other analysts who have made similar findings, Mr. Pape has argued that the remaining 90 percent of the “ordinary” rioters are part of a still congealing mass movement on the right that has shown itself willing to put “violence at its core.”
Other mass movements have emerged, he said, in response to large-scale cultural change. In the 1840s and ’50s, for example, the Know Nothing Party, a group of nativist Protestants, was formed in response to huge waves of largely Irish Catholic immigration to the country. After World War I, he added, the Ku Klux Klan experienced a revival prompted in part by the arrival of Italians and the first stirrings of the so-called Great Migration of Black Americans from the rural South to the industrialized North.
In an effort to determine why the mob that formed on Jan. 6 turned violent, Mr. Pape compared events that day with two previous pro-Trump rallies in Washington, on Nov. 14 and Dec. 12. While police records show some indications of street fighting after the first two gatherings, Mr. Pape said, the number of arrests were fewer and the charges less serious than on Jan. 6. The records also show that those arrested in November and December largely lived within an hour of Washington while most of those arrested in January came from considerably farther away.
The difference at the rallies was former President Donald J. Trump, Mr. Pape said. Mr. Trump promoted the Jan. 6 rally in advance, saying it would be “wild” and driving up attendance, Mr. Pape said. He then encouraged the mob to march on the Capitol in an effort to “show strength.”
Mr. Pape said he worried that a similar mob could be summoned again by a leader like Mr. Trump. After all, he suggested, as the country continues moving toward becoming a majority-minority nation and right-wing media outlets continue to stoke fear about the Great Replacement, the racial and cultural anxieties that lay beneath the riot at the Capitol are not going away.
“If all of this is really rooted in the politics of social change, then we have to realize that it’s not going to be solved — or solved alone — by law enforcement agencies,” Mr. Pape said. “This is political violence, not just ordinary criminal violence, and it is going to require both additional information and a strategic approach.”
Mr. Pape, whose career had mostly been focused on international terrorism, used that approach after the Sept. 11 attacks when he created a database of suicide bombers from around the world. His research led to a remarkable discovery: Most of the bombers were secular, not religious, and had killed themselves not out of zealotry, but rather in response to military occupations.
American officials eventually used the findings to persuade some Sunnis in Iraq to break with their religious allies and join the United States in a nationalist movement known as the Anbar Awakening.
Recalling his early work with suicide bombers, Mr. Pape suggested that the country’s understanding of what happened on Jan. 6 was only starting to take shape, much like its understanding of international terrorism slowly grew after Sept. 11.
“We really still are at the beginning stages,” he said.
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No bias there at all. The NY TIMES would never push a false narrative about EvEl HwItE PeEpUl aN Da InSiRekShUn..Interesting findings from an indepth analysis of Jan 6th insurrection.
Fears of White People Losing Out Permeate Capitol Rioters’ Towns, Study Finds
Counties with the most significant declines in the non-Hispanic white population were the most likely to be homes to people who stormed the Capitol.www.nytimes.com
When the political scientist Robert Pape began studying the issues that motivated the 380 or so people arrested in connection with the attack against the Capitol on Jan. 6, he expected to find that the rioters were driven to violence by the lingering effects of the 2008 Great Recession.
But instead he found something very different: Most of the people who took part in the assault came from places, his polling and demographic data showed, that were awash in fears that the rights of minorities and immigrants were crowding out the rights of white people in American politics and culture.
If Mr. Pape’s initial conclusions — published on Tuesday in The Washington Post — hold true, they would suggest that the Capitol attack has historical echoes reaching back to before the Civil War, he said in an interview over the weekend. In the shorter term, he added, the study would appear to connect Jan. 6 not only to the once-fringe right-wing theory called the Great Replacement, which holds that minorities and immigrants are seeking to take over the country, but also to events like the far-right rally in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017 where crowds of white men marched with torches chanting, “Jews will not replace us!”
“If you look back in history, there has always been a series of far-right extremist movements responding to new waves of immigration to the United States or to movements for civil rights by minority groups,” Mr. Pape said. “You see a common pattern in the Capitol insurrectionists. They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future.”
One fact stood out in Mr. Pape’s study, conducted with the help of researchers at the Chicago Project on Security and Threats, a think tank he runs at the University of Chicago. Counties with the most significant declines in the non-Hispanic white population are the most likely to produce insurrectionists. This finding held true, Mr. Pape determined, even when controlling for population size, distance to Washington, unemployment rate and urban or rural location.
Law enforcement officials have said 800 to 1,000 people entered the Capitol on Jan. 6, and prosecutors have spent the past three months tracking down many of them in what they have described as one of the largest criminal investigations in U.S. history. In recent court filings, the government has hinted that more than 400 people may ultimately face charges, including illegal entry, assault of police officers and the obstruction of the official business of Congress.
In his study, Mr. Pape determined that only about 10 percent of those charged were members of established far-right organizations like the Oath Keepers militia or the nationalist extremist group the Proud Boys. But unlike other analysts who have made similar findings, Mr. Pape has argued that the remaining 90 percent of the “ordinary” rioters are part of a still congealing mass movement on the right that has shown itself willing to put “violence at its core.”
Other mass movements have emerged, he said, in response to large-scale cultural change. In the 1840s and ’50s, for example, the Know Nothing Party, a group of nativist Protestants, was formed in response to huge waves of largely Irish Catholic immigration to the country. After World War I, he added, the Ku Klux Klan experienced a revival prompted in part by the arrival of Italians and the first stirrings of the so-called Great Migration of Black Americans from the rural South to the industrialized North.
In an effort to determine why the mob that formed on Jan. 6 turned violent, Mr. Pape compared events that day with two previous pro-Trump rallies in Washington, on Nov. 14 and Dec. 12. While police records show some indications of street fighting after the first two gatherings, Mr. Pape said, the number of arrests were fewer and the charges less serious than on Jan. 6. The records also show that those arrested in November and December largely lived within an hour of Washington while most of those arrested in January came from considerably farther away.
The difference at the rallies was former President Donald J. Trump, Mr. Pape said. Mr. Trump promoted the Jan. 6 rally in advance, saying it would be “wild” and driving up attendance, Mr. Pape said. He then encouraged the mob to march on the Capitol in an effort to “show strength.”
Mr. Pape said he worried that a similar mob could be summoned again by a leader like Mr. Trump. After all, he suggested, as the country continues moving toward becoming a majority-minority nation and right-wing media outlets continue to stoke fear about the Great Replacement, the racial and cultural anxieties that lay beneath the riot at the Capitol are not going away.
“If all of this is really rooted in the politics of social change, then we have to realize that it’s not going to be solved — or solved alone — by law enforcement agencies,” Mr. Pape said. “This is political violence, not just ordinary criminal violence, and it is going to require both additional information and a strategic approach.”
Mr. Pape, whose career had mostly been focused on international terrorism, used that approach after the Sept. 11 attacks when he created a database of suicide bombers from around the world. His research led to a remarkable discovery: Most of the bombers were secular, not religious, and had killed themselves not out of zealotry, but rather in response to military occupations.
American officials eventually used the findings to persuade some Sunnis in Iraq to break with their religious allies and join the United States in a nationalist movement known as the Anbar Awakening.
Recalling his early work with suicide bombers, Mr. Pape suggested that the country’s understanding of what happened on Jan. 6 was only starting to take shape, much like its understanding of international terrorism slowly grew after Sept. 11.
“We really still are at the beginning stages,” he said.
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Probably closer to 95 million extremists. Got to figure in the families too.
I know I'm ready for the party to get started.
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Interesting findings from an indepth analysis of Jan 6th insurrection.
Fears of White People Losing Out Permeate Capitol Rioters’ Towns, Study Finds
Counties with the most significant declines in the non-Hispanic white population were the most likely to be homes to people who stormed the Capitol.
When the political scientist Robert Pape began studying the issues that motivated the 380 or so people arrested in connection with the attack against the Capitol on Jan. 6, he expected to find that the rioters were driven to violence by the lingering effects of the 2008 Great Recession.
But instead he found something very different: Most of the people who took part in the assault came from places, his polling and demographic data showed, that were awash in fears that the rights of minorities and immigrants were crowding out the rights of white people in American politics and culture.
If Mr. Pape’s initial conclusions — published on Tuesday in The Washington Post — hold true, they would suggest that the Capitol attack has historical echoes reaching back to before the Civil War, he said in an interview over the weekend. In the shorter term, he added, the study would appear to connect Jan. 6 not only to the once-fringe right-wing theory called the Great Replacement, which holds that minorities and immigrants are seeking to take over the country, but also to events like the far-right rally in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017 where crowds of white men marched with torches chanting, “Jews will not replace us!”
“If you look back in history, there has always been a series of far-right extremist movements responding to new waves of immigration to the United States or to movements for civil rights by minority groups,” Mr. Pape said. “You see a common pattern in the Capitol insurrectionists. They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future.”
One fact stood out in Mr. Pape’s study, conducted with the help of researchers at the Chicago Project on Security and Threats, a think tank he runs at the University of Chicago. Counties with the most significant declines in the non-Hispanic white population are the most likely to produce insurrectionists. This finding held true, Mr. Pape determined, even when controlling for population size, distance to Washington, unemployment rate and urban or rural location.
Law enforcement officials have said 800 to 1,000 people entered the Capitol on Jan. 6, and prosecutors have spent the past three months tracking down many of them in what they have described as one of the largest criminal investigations in U.S. history. In recent court filings, the government has hinted that more than 400 people may ultimately face charges, including illegal entry, assault of police officers and the obstruction of the official business of Congress.
In his study, Mr. Pape determined that only about 10 percent of those charged were members of established far-right organizations like the Oath Keepers militia or the nationalist extremist group the Proud Boys. But unlike other analysts who have made similar findings, Mr. Pape has argued that the remaining 90 percent of the “ordinary” rioters are part of a still congealing mass movement on the right that has shown itself willing to put “violence at its core.”
Other mass movements have emerged, he said, in response to large-scale cultural change. In the 1840s and ’50s, for example, the Know Nothing Party, a group of nativist Protestants, was formed in response to huge waves of largely Irish Catholic immigration to the country. After World War I, he added, the Ku Klux Klan experienced a revival prompted in part by the arrival of Italians and the first stirrings of the so-called Great Migration of Black Americans from the rural South to the industrialized North.
In an effort to determine why the mob that formed on Jan. 6 turned violent, Mr. Pape compared events that day with two previous pro-Trump rallies in Washington, on Nov. 14 and Dec. 12. While police records show some indications of street fighting after the first two gatherings, Mr. Pape said, the number of arrests were fewer and the charges less serious than on Jan. 6. The records also show that those arrested in November and December largely lived within an hour of Washington while most of those arrested in January came from considerably farther away.
The difference at the rallies was former President Donald J. Trump, Mr. Pape said. Mr. Trump promoted the Jan. 6 rally in advance, saying it would be “wild” and driving up attendance, Mr. Pape said. He then encouraged the mob to march on the Capitol in an effort to “show strength.”
Mr. Pape said he worried that a similar mob could be summoned again by a leader like Mr. Trump. After all, he suggested, as the country continues moving toward becoming a majority-minority nation and right-wing media outlets continue to stoke fear about the Great Replacement, the racial and cultural anxieties that lay beneath the riot at the Capitol are not going away.
“If all of this is really rooted in the politics of social change, then we have to realize that it’s not going to be solved — or solved alone — by law enforcement agencies,” Mr. Pape said. “This is political violence, not just ordinary criminal violence, and it is going to require both additional information and a strategic approach.”
Mr. Pape, whose career had mostly been focused on international terrorism, used that approach after the Sept. 11 attacks when he created a database of suicide bombers from around the world. His research led to a remarkable discovery: Most of the bombers were secular, not religious, and had killed themselves not out of zealotry, but rather in response to military occupations.
American officials eventually used the findings to persuade some Sunnis in Iraq to break with their religious allies and join the United States in a nationalist movement known as the Anbar Awakening.
Recalling his early work with suicide bombers, Mr. Pape suggested that the country’s understanding of what happened on Jan. 6 was only starting to take shape, much like its understanding of international terrorism slowly grew after Sept. 11.
“We really still are at the beginning stages,” he said.
Wait, isn't the entire reason for the (D)imbo party to protect persons of color [other than white or yellowish], LGBQT, wimmens, particularly LBGTVCEO wimmens of color, from "the rights of white people, particularly straight white males, from crowding out the rights of minorities and immigrants in American politics and culture"?
I am amazed at your utter lack of awareness of these situations.
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This is pure insanity. There must be a 9-11 type bipartisan commission set up to fully investigate the events of Jan 6th.
Now we have confirmation that Pence instructed military leaders to “clear the Capitol” and they still refused. The only reason the military would defy the Vice President is if the President ordered them to defy him. Trump must be charged with treason and locked up for life.
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Now we have confirmation that Pence instructed military leaders to “clear the Capitol” and they still refused. The only reason the military would defy the Vice President is if the President ordered them to defy him. Trump must be charged with treason and locked up for life.
‘Clear the Capitol,’ Pence pleaded, timeline of riot shows
WASHINGTON (AP) — From a secure room in the Capitol on Jan. 6, as rioters pummeled police and vandalized the building , Vice President Mike Pence tried to assert control...
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No. The reason why is because the vice president does not have the authority to give That order. The vice president is not the commander in chief the president he is. Stop the hand ringing and fake outrage Tibs you give not a damn for left wing political violence that’s caused $2 billion worth of damage.This is pure insanity. There must be a 9-11 type bipartisan commission set up to fully investigate the events of Jan 6th.
Now we have confirmation that Pence instructed military leaders to “clear the Capitol” and they still refused. The only reason the military would defy the Vice President is if the President ordered them to defy him. Trump must be charged with treason and locked up for life.
‘Clear the Capitol,’ Pence pleaded, timeline of riot shows
WASHINGTON (AP) — From a secure room in the Capitol on Jan. 6, as rioters pummeled police and vandalized the building , Vice President Mike Pence tried to assert control...
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Exactly. Herein lies the problem, that Trump went knowingly awol.
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Wrong.
He is on video telling people to march to the capital but to do so peacefully. Even though YouTube tried to memory hole that the internet is forever.
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Decaf still huddled in his mom's basement cuz January 6 and wHyTe So0pReMaSeE!!
It's okay, decaf; you can extricate yourself for some more "mostly peaceful" protests and discount shopping because one police encounter out of about 100,000 per day went south.
It's okay, decaf; you can extricate yourself for some more "mostly peaceful" protests and discount shopping because one police encounter out of about 100,000 per day went south.
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The enemy is definitely within. So close, you can see the whites of their eyes. Let's hope the FBI continues to track down and apprehend the armed, seditious, right-wing pro-Trump domestic terrorists scattered around the country, masquerading as militias, shielded by the NRA & 2A rights groups.
Armed ‘quick reaction force’ was waiting for order to storm Capitol, Justice Dept. says
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It's been 100 days since the deadly insurrection at the Capitol. Federal investigators are still searching for some of the alleged rioters.
www.fbi.gov
Capitol Violence | Federal Bureau of Investigation
The FBI is seeking to identify individuals involved in the violent activities that occurred at the U.S. Capitol and surrounding areas on January 6, 2021. View photos and related information here. If you have any information to provide, visit tips.fbi.gov or call 1-800-CALL-FBI.
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so you want to argue that this guy had a gun in his hotel room in Virginia, a LONE gun, and left it in said hotel room to violently storm the capitol building seeking to kill, maim, and bloody anyone in his path.
izzat right, Tibsy?
izzat right, Tibsy?
no.It's been 100 days since the deadly insurrection at the Capitol. Federal investigators are still searching for some of the alleged rioters.
Capitol Violence | Federal Bureau of Investigation
The FBI is seeking to identify individuals involved in the violent activities that occurred at the U.S. Capitol and surrounding areas on January 6, 2021. View photos and related information here. If you have any information to provide, visit tips.fbi.gov or call 1-800-CALL-FBI.
they're only looking for certain people. they don't care about ALL of the people who stormed the Capitol. this has been proven time and time again.
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Here's the part you and the media fail to understand. Roughly 75 million people voted for Donald Trump. I would venture a guess that somewhere between 90 and 100% of those people have guns. Probably a lot of them. And ammo too. If Trump supporters wanted to stage an armed insurrection, I would be willing to bet it would still be going on.
One guy with one gun. Quick reaction force. Give me a break.
Oh...they do understand that Sarge...
That is why the "insurrection" that occurred on 1/6 has become such concern....
Its not what they did that day....but what possibly could occur again....and in much larger force.
Hence ...the armed guards, fences, jersey barriers, and barb wire...
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Is the American Stassi ever going to search for the AntiFa BLM thugs that have been rioting and looting for the last 8 months and have done $2b in damages? No because they are leftists and the American Stassi doesn’t care about the rule of law just crushing the political opposition of the DNC.
There's something happening here
But what it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop
Children, what's that sound?
Everybody look, what's going down?
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away
But what it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop
Children, what's that sound?
Everybody look, what's going down?
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away
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Decaf mistakenly believed that "QRF" stood for "Queers, Reactionaries & Fondlers." He was ready to sign up.
Rioters light multiple police stations on fire, riot for more than 100 straight days in Portland, cause multiple billions of dollars in damage, kill 17 people, loot, burn, murder, rape, rob? Crickets. Not one ******* word. Not a syllable. Zero.
One riot that lasted 2 hours and where one - ONE - person was killed, and that by a police officer shooting an unarmed woman climbing through a broken window?
Decaf ... scouring fake news for any bullshit story about how the January 6 mostly peaceful protests involved zip ties (false), guns (false), bombs (false), Parler (false).
Rioters light multiple police stations on fire, riot for more than 100 straight days in Portland, cause multiple billions of dollars in damage, kill 17 people, loot, burn, murder, rape, rob? Crickets. Not one ******* word. Not a syllable. Zero.
One riot that lasted 2 hours and where one - ONE - person was killed, and that by a police officer shooting an unarmed woman climbing through a broken window?
Decaf ... scouring fake news for any bullshit story about how the January 6 mostly peaceful protests involved zip ties (false), guns (false), bombs (false), Parler (false).
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