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Wait a minute...Ken Dorsey fired???

Dorsey had the Bills OFFENSE ranked 2nd in yards & points in 2022
and 7th and 8th in those categories through 10 games in 2023

Josh Allen has regressed to the turnover machine he was in the early years of his career

scapegoat


Hell I would be happy if Pittsburgh signed Dorsey .... dude is a winner ........... look at what he did with the Hurricanes 38-2

He is like 42 years old ..... anything to bring in some new blood from outside wood be welcome
Definitely. I’ve watched quite a few Bills games the past few years. Allen thinks he can be Superman every play it seems. I mean,we all know he’s got the arm. But the decision making....not so much. Throwing in triple coverage non stop. Running and plowing into defenders needlessly. I mean you gotta love him and hate him at the same time if he’s your QB. Reminds me of Romo or Farve. Turnovers at big moments. Ben too.

He needs some type of guru QB coach to settle down his mind. Discipline.
 
Imagine having the 8th best offense in the NFL and getting canned. Canada hasn't sniffed top 10 and he will ride out the year just fine.
 
Dorsey seemed to be doing a fine job. Josh Allen and the Bills turned into a turnover machine. Heck, if the special teams coach can count to 12 the Bills win and Dorsey still has his job.

Brady benefitted to having some of the best offensive talent ever on a college team at LSU. His offenses, while lacking talent, sucked in the NFL. We'll see what he does with all this talent Buffalo has.
 
Imagine having the 8th best offense in the NFL and getting canned. Canada hasn't sniffed top 10 and he will ride out the year just fine.
Dorsey got fired because he's basically not Daboll. Daboll transformed Allen from a turnover machine into a quality QB, now that Daboll's been gone for a season and a half, Allen is back to being a turnover machine again. Daboll is a QB whisperer.
 
Imagine having the 8th best offense in the NFL and getting canned. Canada hasn't sniffed top 10 and he will ride out the year just fine.

He's Tomlin's guy. If anyone wants to ***** about the OC being here still, they need to turn that attention to the HC. This is his baby, all of it!
 
Turn KP8 lose, let him succeed while making mistakes.

This playing scared is ridiculous.


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100% this. take the cuffs off and lets see what the future holds. there are gonna be some really good QB's in the 2024 draft. unleash KP and see if we need to cut bait now or if he is our QB for the future.

I can live with him struggling as long as he is making good decisions and improving, otherwise end up with a ****** record and nab a true first rounder.

Is there anyone on this board that would be happy with an 8-8 season instead of a 6-10 season in 2003 and miss out on big Ben just to not have a losing season. I personally would take a 4-13 season for a year to have the next Ben Roethlisberger put on the black and gold and take me to three more super bowls. but hey what do I know. I aint near as smart as some of the great football minds on this board.
 
100% this. take the cuffs off and lets see what the future holds. there are gonna be some really good QB's in the 2024 draft. unleash KP and see if we need to cut bait now or if he is our QB for the future.

I can live with him struggling as long as he is making good decisions and improving, otherwise end up with a ****** record and nab a true first rounder.

Is there anyone on this board that would be happy with an 8-8 season instead of a 6-10 season in 2003 and miss out on big Ben just to not have a losing season. I personally would take a 4-13 season for a year to have the next Ben Roethlisberger put on the black and gold and take me to three more super bowls. but hey what do I know. I aint near as smart as some of the great football minds on this board.
They aren't winning the Super Bowl with this style of offense. I'd be surprised if they could win a playoff game either. If you aren't doing either of those things, then absolutely cut loose and see what you have with Pickett. They're seriously going to be in a bad spot if they screw around again next year. There's no reason to sign a guy unless you think they are truly the answer long-term. Look at the Giants with Daniel Jones. They waited, he flashed a little but in reality he isn't a QB worth a long-term deal. There are others, he's just a a QB who stands out for me.
 
Art is a CPA not a football man. He can't fathom paying a coach to sit home. And Tomlin knows it so he knows if he remains a .500+ coach that Art will never fire him. He will continue to sign him to an extension with a year or two left. Tomlin is doing enough this year to get his 3 year extension this offseason which gets him signed through 2026.
As far as I can recall, NO assistant coach or coordinator has been fired while under contract since Deuce and Shades have been running the team. Even J. Peezy was suspended until his contract ran out.
Deuce doesn’t pay people not to work and Shades doesn’t new people.
 
As far as I can recall, NO assistant coach or coordinator has been fired while under contract since Deuce and Shades have been running the team. Even J. Peezy was suspended until his contract ran out.
Deuce doesn’t pay people not to work and Shades doesn’t new people.
We are the polar opposite of the Raiders. They have 100 million in head coaches sitting at home. We have $0.
 
As far as I can recall, NO assistant coach or coordinator has been fired while under contract since Deuce and Shades have been running the team. Even J. Peezy was suspended until his contract ran out.
Deuce doesn’t pay people not to work and Shades doesn’t new people.
Ron, didn’t the FO term an OL assistant for getting caught with lewd pics on his CPU. The name escapes me, but he had been in the league for a while. His son was/is also a coach or assistant in the league too? Maybe it was during Chin’s tenure and Mr. Rooney was ambassador. The name was Zeirling/Zieler or something.
 
We have seen this playout many times before. Art the piece of :poop: will let Canada play out his contract and not renew it. He did that with Arians, LeBeau, Haley, Butler, and Fichtner. Next year the exact same system will be ran by a new coach under the direction of the head coach. In three years we will not resign him. Next year we will not renew Teryl Austins contract. It is a never changing mediocrity loop we are stuck in.
It's far less than mediocre. The offense under Canada sucks. They haven't gotten 400 yards in a game once during his tenure. NOT ONE TIME. 400? They haven't even gotten to 300 in 5 out of 9 games this season. 333 is their highest total. They are the worst Steelers offense in over 30 years. They are historically bad.

If ever there was an open-and-shut case to fire a guy, it's now. But you're right -- they won't.
 
As far as I can recall, NO assistant coach or coordinator has been fired while under contract since Deuce and Shades have been running the team. Even J. Peezy was suspended until his contract ran out.
Deuce doesn’t pay people not to work and Shades doesn’t new people.
Interesting thing to note. Tom Moore was the Steelers very first Offensive Coordinator in 1983. There have been 11 OC's since him. You know how many were fired "in-season"? Zero, None, Zilch.
So, it looks like it's part of "The Steelers Way". A part we fans don't agree with. But, a part nonetheless. And, it's been part of the Steelers Way whether the coach was Tomlin, Cowher, or Noll before them.
 
Dorsey seemed to be doing a fine job. Josh Allen and the Bills turned into a turnover machine. Heck, if the special teams coach can count to 12 the Bills win and Dorsey still has his job.

Brady benefitted to having some of the best offensive talent ever on a college team at LSU. His offenses, while lacking talent, sucked in the NFL. We'll see what he does with all this talent Buffalo has.
So with the O struggling why not bring Dorsey in to help out on some capacity?

This team is too stuck in their ways...
 
Ron, didn’t the FO term an OL assistant for getting caught with lewd pics on his CPU. The name escapes me, but he had been in the league for a while. His son was/is also a coach or assistant in the league too? Maybe it was during Chin’s tenure and Mr. Rooney was ambassador. The name was Zeirling/Zieler or something.
Larry Zierline, Shades’ first OL coach.
Wikipedia mentions the incident but says he was not disciplined by the team or the league. I assume his contract was allowed to run out.
 
It's far less than mediocre. The offense under Canada sucks. They haven't gotten 400 yards in a game once during his tenure. NOT ONE TIME. 400? They haven't even gotten to 300 in 5 out of 9 games this season. 333 is their highest total. They are the worst Steelers offense in over 30 years. They are historically bad.

If ever there was an open-and-shut case to fire a guy, it's now. But you're right -- they won't.
I remember a time where Ben threw for 522 yards.
 
Turn KP8 lose, let him succeed while making mistakes.

This playing scared is ridiculous.


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That will happen after the Steelers reach 9 wins.
A winning season must be secured at all costs.
 
That will happen after the Steelers reach 9 wins.
A winning season must be secured at all costs.

The next two are VERY important, so you’re saying we have three games to wait……….


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C'mon, Sarge. That's not true. Fans want wins. If that scenario was going on, the bitching on here might be worse than it is now.
Sure fans want wins, but I don’t think the current Steelers model is sustainable. all I keep hearing is that we don’t know what we have in Pickett. How are you going to find out?

I don’t think he’s a franchise QB but I do think he is better than he’s shown. We’ll never know unless they turn him loose. They could start by letting him throw in the middle of the field.
 
Ron, didn’t the FO term an OL assistant for getting caught with lewd pics on his CPU. The name escapes me, but he had been in the league for a while. His son was/is also a coach or assistant in the league too? Maybe it was during Chin’s tenure and Mr. Rooney was ambassador. The name was Zeirling/Zieler or something.
Larry Zierlien inadvertently emailed a porn photo to the entire league instead of to whomever he was intending to send it to… also iirc after he was finally let go, ( because of performance, not that incident) his son ripped arians and tomlin for forcing him into a blocking scheme that didn’t fit then terminating him for it
 
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