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We are being badly misled about the Ukraine-Russia war

How long will Americans spend money on an unwinnable war that isn't ours?

I never thought I say this, but the USA needs Putin alive to help with the excuse to fund the war which by conservative estimates is over 500 billion dollars for the USA. Is he even alive? Hard to say.

Putin by the way has been spotted with body doubles. The ears which are unique to each individual and the counters of the face differ in his photos. Don't ask me how I know this. But these days computers can measure everything.

Russia has seized the land the is disputed where people mostly Russian. But the news does not say this. Or interviewer the people of the sized land. Why? Maybe these people want to be Russian.

I think the peace is for the two sides to negotiate. Stop spending billions of dollars on war. Let the people of the sized land speak. If majority go the want to be Russian or the want to stay with Ukraine so be it. Do not fund these war lords!
 
I never thought I say this, but the USA needs Putin alive to help with the excuse to fund the war which by conservative estimates is over 500 billion dollars for the USA. Is he even alive? Hard to say.

Putin by the way has been spotted with body doubles. The ears which are unique to each individual and the counters of the face differ in his photos. Don't ask me how I know this. But these days computers can measure everything.

Russia has seized the land the is disputed where people mostly Russian. But the news does not say this. Or interviewer the people of the sized land. Why? Maybe these people want to be Russian.

I think the peace is for the two sides to negotiate. Stop spending billions of dollars on war. Let the people of the sized land speak. If majority go the want to be Russian or the want to stay with Ukraine so be it. Do not fund these war lords!
Is English your second or third language?
 
Biden sloppily pulled out of Afghanistan and said " no more endless wars ". And, lickety split, just like that he inserts bananamerica into another endless war. But it's different because he gets his cut from the unaccounted money. Clever Joe. But I see what you are doing.
 
Biden sloppily pulled out of Afghanistan and said " no more endless wars ". And, lickety split, just like that he inserts bananamerica into another endless war. But it's different because he gets his cut from the unaccounted money. Clever Joe. But I see what you are doing.
that's octogenarianphobic, you raysiss ***!!!!
 
 
America lets in 1 million people every year through "legal" immigration, the next best country is Germany and they only do 300K.

From the day Biden took over, to Aug 2022, there were about 5 million illegal immigrants stopped at the southern border

By the start of Biden's 4th year, he will have from 7 to 10 million illegal immigrants enter this country. That's a failure. His economics is a failure. The man can barely talk and the press does't make him answer question which he has to think, and are not scripted for him. Get the dolt out.
 
Ah. So Clinton offers to help. The Clinton's " helped " Haiti after a storm. Remember that. The Haitians hate the Clinton's because they received no help. Clinton's banked a billion or so in thier " foundation ".

Such big hearts.
 

As Dispute With Ukraine Escalates, Poland Says It Won’t Send New Weapons​

The Polish prime minister’s comments came as the country’s governing party seeks to reassure voters that it will not put Ukraine’s interests ahead of those of Polish citizens.


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Biden sloppily pulled out of Afghanistan and said " no more endless wars ".

Sloppy Joe was a big supporter of the Afghanistan war. He loves endless wars. He pretended to oppose endless wars, despite his unending support for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, solely to get votes. Now that he has the 81 million votes *cough* he is on to the next endless war, this one on behalf of a huge donor to his family bank accounts.

And, lickety split, just like that he inserts bananamerica into another endless war. But it's different because he gets his cut from the unaccounted money. Clever Joe. But I see what you are doing.

Everybody sees it, but goddammit, xjx, are you forgetting Orange Man Bad?!?
 

As Dispute With Ukraine Escalates, Poland Says It Won’t Send New Weapons​

The Polish prime minister’s comments came as the country’s governing party seeks to reassure voters that it will not put Ukraine’s interests ahead of those of Polish citizens.


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I lived in Poland for four months. That Prime Minister takes no ****. Poland first, second and last. If only we had that here.
 
Oh, look, one of the "experts" admits what everybody else has known for months:

The United States, however, would be wise to adjust its policies to reflect the reality of Ukraine's slim chances against Russia's fortified lines. Washington has spent nearly $113 billion over the course of this war, provided Ukraine with an astounding volume of modern arms and ammunition, and delivered an impressive array of training and intelligence support. After almost a year of preparation, it hardly dented the Russian lines.

There is no realistic basis, therefore, to believe that Ukraine has the capacity to attain its stated strategic objective to reclaim all its territory, including Crimea. What is realistic is to continue providing Kyiv with the military wherewithal to defend itself from further Russian incursions. This goal should be combined with shifting an increasing percentage of the burden for additional arms and ammunition to our rich European friends. The U.S. should continue to ensure the war does not expand beyond the borders of Ukraine, and increase diplomatic efforts with all relevant parties to end the war on the best terms possible for Kyiv—all of which are beneficial to American interests.

Rather than repeating over the next year and a half what has already not worked—potentially costing Ukraine yet additional hundreds of thousands of losses—it's time to try something that has a chance to succeed. In other words, it's time to acknowledge objective reality and employ policies that can work.

Newsweek Article Acknowledges Truth About Ukraine Offensive

Ukraine's claim that it had just 17,500 troops killed before the offensive is obviously a lie. It has not actually acknowledged the casualties stemming from the decision to advance headlong into well-fortified Russian defenses but the article estimates those casualties as 50,000 dead and probably 100,000 wounded.

So approximately 150,000 casualties for an offensive that has resulted in basically nothing. Jesus Christ, losses in the Civil War were less than this.
 
I guarantee we would be over 100 billion dollars richer if he was still around.

 
The story that is never told.
When the Soviet Union broke up and Ukraine became independent, Putin didn't just say:
"Bye bye Ukraine, have a nice country".
Far from it.
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The Russian presence today in Ukraine is huge due to being under Soviet control for decades. So vital Ukraine is to Russia strategically, economically, and socially ( Putin wants none of that gay European influenced transgender $hit at his doorstep).
Fact: The Russian government urged Russian citizens to re-locate to Ukraine.
Half the population in Kiev, the capital city, is Russian speaking. The Russians living in Ukraine did not just pack up and go back to Russia.
They remained in their business, and even as members of the Ukrainian bureaucracy...but they also remained loyal to "Mother Russia".
Russian operatives all over that country.

So do you really want to know who many of the people are that are greatly responsible for all the corruption going on there?
You guessed it. Ukrainian citizens who are Russian by nationality.

Poor Ukraine, because of its prime location and resources has been embattled in war throughout its history either by the Poles from the West, Turks from the South, or Russians from the East.. And here they are, at it again.
 
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