We HAVE to go DL in round 1

[Coryea]

Is Tomlin going to stop his pathetic Tampa 2 wannabee defense? If so then yes Dline is a huge need, along with several other positions.

 

[TDX27]

I've been saying this for years. All you keep hearing is the Steelers are only in their base D about 25% of the time and are almost always in their sub-package D. Well, isn't that the freaking problem? Many have noticed we don't blitz anymore. Wanna know why? Because before Tomlin took over the D, we ran more of a true 3-4 and had 3 big uglies and 2 OLB's on the pass rush. Big Snack may not have gotten many sacks but he did command a double team whenever he was on the field. We are now relegated to trying to rush only 4. This has even caused Watt to get chipped or double-teamed a lot. We have two 300-pound guys and two 250-pound guys rushing against five 300+ pound guys, a TE or two, and a chip from a RB. Can anyone else see the freaking problem? This isn't about needing to be in our sub-package all the time, it's about Tomlin and his terrible D schemes that just haven't worked. It all starts with the big uglies on both sides of the ball.

 

[F83]

trade up for Grant can't miss NG, has potential to be as good as Vilfork or Hampton.
Cam has always been versatile enough to play both DT and DE, with a guy like Grant or Williams at NG, you can get both the DT Cam and draftee just to blow the A gap cam has made living over between slower C &G

 

[Drink IRON City]

Larry isn't it. Cam 1 year older. We are in a division with chubb and Henry.

We HAVE to go DL

Original Post above.



I fully agree on the need for DL “trench” workers. I have been fully supportive of trench workers on both sides of the ball.

I also know that if a game-changer DL isn’t there at 1.21, then I say best player available and hope for a top notch WR.

I’m also keeping in mind that this is a very deep DL class and would think not to reach in the 1st. So if DL in the first, I’d hope he was BPA or if not we get that proverbial BPA at WR.


Salute the nation

 

[TDX27]

The classes may seem deep but I haven't seen it in my mocks. It seems WR's and DL's are slim pickens by the end of the 2nd round with a few stragglers in the 3rd round. From there, you are looking at guys who may play in the NFL but need a good bit of work to hopefully pan out as a starter. We need immediate impact players at at least WR and DL. And, if Kahn's recent drafts are similar, he will find some steals in the later rounds. My ideal draft is DL or WR in round 1; DL or WR in round 2 (whichever we didn't get in round 1; DL/CB/RB in rounds 3 and 4. If they go QB at any point, it throws off rebuilding the rest of the team.

 

[Coryea]

I've been saying this for years. All you keep hearing is the Steelers are only in their base D about 25% of the time and are almost always in their sub-package D. Well, isn't that the freaking problem? Many have noticed we don't blitz anymore. Wanna know why? Because before Tomlin took over the D, we ran more of a true 3-4 and had 3 big uglies and 2 OLB's on the pass rush. Big Snack may not have gotten many sacks but he did command a double team whenever he was on the field. We are now relegated to trying to rush only 4. This has even caused Watt to get chipped or double-teamed a lot. We have two 300-pound guys and two 250-pound guys rushing against five 300+ pound guys, a TE or two, and a chip from a RB. Can anyone else see the freaking problem? This isn't about needing to be in our sub-package all the time, it's about Tomlin and his terrible D schemes that just haven't worked. It all starts with the big uglies on both sides of the ball.

Exactly, I've been saying this exact same thing, and this has been a problem for awhile. Even a 2nd grader would get that answer lol. The Browns 1st four offensive TD's in that playoff game came with us in a 2 DL set, and that's us going against the best OL and top running game in the NFL.

 

[insaniti]

The classes may seem deep but I haven't seen it in my mocks. It seems WR's and DL's are slim pickens by the end of the 2nd round with a few stragglers in the 3rd round. From there, you are looking at guys who may play in the NFL but need a good bit of work to hopefully pan out as a starter. We need immediate impact players at at least WR and DL. And, if Kahn's recent drafts are similar, he will find some steals in the later rounds. My ideal draft is DL or WR in round 1; DL or WR in round 2 (whichever we didn't get in round 1; DL/CB/RB in rounds 3 and 4. If they go QB at any point, it throws off rebuilding the rest of the team.

Where are you seeing or doing these mocks? I know a few of the sites I frequent have updated rankings since the combine, it actually slid a few DL's down a bit. I think there are plenty of DL available later, depending on what you're looking for. A big space eating NT? Not as many, but they there. A guy that can rotate along the line, ala Benton...Might be a bit harder.

You've got guys like both ND DT's Cross and Mills, JJ Peagues from Ole Miss, Elijah Roberts from SMU, Darius Alexander from Toledo, Aeneas Peebles Virginia Tech, Cam Jackson, Tonka Hemingway. In other years, these guys would be 3-4th round guys guaranteed, in this draft you might see them anywhere from 4-6. But anytime you get past the first 3 rounds, you're taking guys that need work in one area or another. I don't think it's deep with first and second round talent that's getting pushed down by sheer numbers, just that the quality of the guys in the later rounds is a bit more solid than in other years.

In my mocks, I take a DL in the first round in probably 95% of them, there have been a few times where the guy I want was taken or other guys slid so far down it was too good to pass up, and then my original target was there in the second anyway. It's really hard right now tho, because FA hasn't started and we don't know who they've picked up. If they land a guy like Williams from the Eagles, or Jonathan Alan from the Commanders, I'm not worried about taking two DL in the first four rounds, but I still take one in the first, especially if its Grant.

 

[MT~Forged]

As much as they like Trice, and as much talent and potential he might have...injuries are the reason he slid so far in the draft, and the same reason he hasn't seen the field much. I think CB2 is very much up in the air, as well as the slot role. Beanie played ok, was in the right spot for a few picks, but he was also out of position a lot. He may make a huge jump in year 2, but I'm still looking at possible upgrades.

I agree and said almost the same thing. I believe a healthy Trice can challenge for CB#2 as well as Bishop improving. The FA targets are likely going to be ones that while are not top of their game, will be challengers.