What do you like about Trump?

[Max Power]

He's with US.

 

[Stainless]

Saturday Night Live has sucked for years. If he's elected, it's likely to get much, much better.

 

[21STEELERS21]

That he has destroyed the GOP forever and ever.

 

[Troglodyte]

"I love the poorly educated!"

"Where's my African American?"

 

[ark steel]

That he has destroyed the GOP forever and ever.

And you, once again, have provided a perfect example of how much you do not understand.

Trump did not do anything to the GOP. The GOP destroyed themselves by ignoring the will of their constituency. This is WHY Trump is where he is, not the other way around.

 

[Troglodyte]

Trump did not do anything to the GOP. The GOP destroyed themselves by ignoring the will of their constituency. This is WHY Trump is where he is, not the other way around.

if you were going to explain this to George Will, the Bush's, Romney, Kasich, etc. what examples would you give of how Trump appeals to the constituency where they did not?

 

[SCSteeler4life]

Not a politician.

And he doesn't give a damn about the politically correct police.

 

[ark steel]

if you were going to explain this to George Will, the Bush's, Romney, Kasich, etc. what examples would you give of how Trump appeals to the constituency where they did not?

argggh. Had a response. lost in the ether. will redo later

 

[SteelChip]

Alright now.....There is a major difference here, Trump is a Nationalist, Hillary is a Globalist. King Berry is not only a Globalist but a racist Black liberation theologist that wants to overthrow the modern day Colonialism.

The glory days of liberalism in the early 1900s gave way to the anti-colonialism and nationalism of the late 1900s, before being more recently challenged by Islamism, which may in its turn be challenged by the emerging trend of economic modernism that will probably include social conservatism.

So, in the end we are headed to the social conservative graveyard ? The demise of social conservatism in American politics is frequently predicted, but somehow it never happens. This is partly because social conservatism is a relative term.

The defeats social conservatives are suffering on gay rights in particular could threaten their other positions. Here social conservatives aren't simply seen as out-of-touch defenders of outdated mores. They are increasingly regarded as advocating something morally equivalent to racism.

Public opinion has shifted so swiftly many social conservatives haven't contemplated these questions. They had better start.

 

[Sarge]

I agree with pretty much everything you're sayin here other than the fact that Trump is the completely wrong person to usher this change in. ALso don't pretend like things weren't going in this direction before the Obama Administration.

While I agree that Trump is the wrong person, who else is gonna do it? Cruz? Romney? Ryan? Gimmie a break. At this point, Trump is the ONLY person with the sack to even mention ushering in this change. All the rest want the status quo. They want their elitist gravy train to roll on.

 

[Sarge]

And for the record, I am voting Gary Johnson. While I can appreciate a guy like Trump, hearing him talk makes me think he is retarded. Seeing him on O'Reilly last night made me cringe. Clinton is worse. A ******* soulless, heartless criminal. This is what we are left with, and sadly, no one else can even get a sniff. And Americans wonder why our country is in the state it is in, and why the world views us as morons. The republic is mostly doomed, and we as good stooges are happy to nominate and vote for the very people that will put the final nail in the coffin. This nation is going to get what it deserves, and the saddest part is that those that are mostly responsible will not be alive to reap the whirlwind they created. There truly is no justice.

 

[BLITZ]

he doesn't think isis is the jv team
he has to be better than Clinton regarding the economy
he is not business as usual in Washington
he is not Clinton. that chick makes me want to puke everytime I here her speak

 

[diver]

And for the record, I am voting Gary Johnson. While I can appreciate a guy like Trump, hearing him talk makes me think he is retarded. Seeing him on O'Reilly last night made me cringe. Clinton is worse. A ******* soulless, heartless criminal. This is what we are left with, and sadly, no one else can even get a sniff. And Americans wonder why our country is in the state it is in, and why the world views us as morons. The republic is mostly doomed, and we as good stooges are happy to nominate and vote for the very people that will put the final nail in the coffin. This nation is going to get what it deserves, and the saddest part is that those that are mostly responsible will not be alive to reap the whirlwind they created. There truly is no justice.

The world thinks we are morons? Where are these other great world leaders? Is Churchill out there somewhere? Outside of Netenyahu, does any country have a leader worth a ****? If the rest of the world is judging us by who our candidates are, they are hypocrites.

 

[Stryker]

So we have some good input here:

1. He's a change to politics by being an outsider, so he's not beholden to political deals.
2. He's tough on islamic terrorism
3. He's tough on immigration. (border control and immigration reform)
4. Strong business background
5. Experience in business should translate to beneficial economic reform.
6. Speaks his mind, and isn't afraid to broach taboo subjects.
7. He is a nationalist. Cares about the US above all other geopolitical or global economic entities.
8. He's a tough, proven negotiator who will play hardball to get what is best for our country.

I'm sticking to the positives here, as I'm rooting though the negative campaigning to get to the heart of why we support our candidates. Let me know if I missed anything (other than great hair).

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Alright now.....There is a major difference here, Trump is a Nationalist, Hillary is a Globalist. King Berry is not only a Globalist but a racist Black liberation theologist that wants to overthrow the modern day Colonialism.



So, in the end we are headed to the social conservative graveyard ? The demise of social conservatism in American politics is frequently predicted, but somehow it never happens. This is partly because social conservatism is a relative term.

The defeats social conservatives are suffering on gay rights in particular could threaten their other positions. Here social conservatives aren't simply seen as out-of-touch defenders of outdated mores. They are increasingly regarded as advocating something morally equivalent to racism.

Public opinion has shifted so swiftly many social conservatives haven't contemplated these questions. They had better start.

Gay Conservative pundit Milo Yiannopolis said recently that social conservatism is dead in the GOP. Point being that the economy, national security, terrorism, and illegal immigration are far more important to the majority of voters than who is marrying who.

Did two funerals in the last month for women and the surviving spouse was also a woman.

 

[DBS1970]

I don't think social conservatism is dead Ron. I think we're getting into a true definition of it, where the first things that people who are going to be conservative realize is they have to conserve everybody's liberty. And the Jeffersonian definition of liberty is if it does not break my leg or pick my pocket what you do is none of my concern.

 

[Vis]

I don't think social conservatism is dead Ron. I think we're getting into a true definition of it, where the first things that people who are going to be conservative realize is they have to conserve everybody's liberty. And the Jeffersonian definition of liberty is if it does not break my leg or pick my pocket what you do is none of my concern.

I don't have a thing to say on the subject of this thread but this post is great.

 

[deljzc]

The problem is that over the last 25 years, for some reason, the Republican platform DID decide to get into my private affairs. Maybe it was Reagan's War on Drugs. Maybe it was the 1994 "Contract with America". Maybe it was a primary system that rewarded pandering to the Christian Coalition (part of 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012 and 2016 primaries) that forced the party to take stances that absolutely fail the Jeffersonian litmus test above.

I agree the libertarian view on social issues - be against things morally, but don't regulate morality with laws - is the platform Republicans need to adopt. And I sort of feel Trump is the first Republican to make it through the primaries that isn't a "holier than thou" preacher of morals.

Again, voting Trump does not mean I think Trump is a good person. None of them are good people. All are corrupted in some fashion. From Kasich to Cruz to McCain to Rubio to Clinton to Sanders to Bush to Obama.

I do not think ANY will completely destroy the Constitutional balance of the branches of government. America will survive a Trump or Clinton presidency despite the horrible rhetoric from BOTH sides right now.

It really does just come down to whether you think continued European Socialism tendencies are good for our Country or do you think we need to put the breaks on bigger government, bigger federal bureaucracy, globalization of power groups, immigration, our current Middle East policy and our current Europe/Russia policy.

I'm voting for to slow down the way we are headed. Plain and simple really. And I'm not going to fall for the scare tactics that Trump is such a demagogue that he is somehow going to be powerful enough to tear down the Constitution, alienate us from the rest of the world and start World War III in the process. And every time I hear the "Sky is Falling" rhetoric from the media or powerful people, I am left to question "Why are these powerful people so afraid of a Trump presidency? What are they trying to protect, really?".... And most of the time the answer is their own cushy jobs, unseen power and lots and lots of money.

 

[Spike]

Unlike Bernie the sell-out, black people don't hate Trump and they will vote for him



Trump At Over 30 Percent With Black Vote In North Carolina

A poll released Wednesday of likely North Carolina voters shows Donald Trump leading Hillary Clinton while at the same time gaining 32 percent of the black vote.

Trump is ahead among all polled voters with 46 percent, followed by Clinton with 42 percent

http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/04/s...30-percent-with-black-vote-in-north-carolina/

 

[Troglodyte]

I don't think social conservatism is dead Ron. I think we're getting into a true definition of it, where the first things that people who are going to be conservative realize is they have to conserve everybody's liberty. And the Jeffersonian definition of liberty is if it does not break my leg or pick my pocket what you do is none of my concern.

I think it coincides with the demise of religion and the intolerance inherent to it. Before the muzzies started bombing us, Christian extremist were bombing abortion clinics and assassinating doctors.

 

[Spike]

Trump is the great unifier: He has brought together the corrupt Democrats, RHINO's and Lyin' Media in a way NO ONE thought possible.

A Trump victory means the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of their corrupt system and the socialist globalist narrative that holds them in power.

 

[Vis]

A Trump victory means the TOTAL DESTRUCTION

I agree with this much.

 

[DBS1970]

I think it coincides with the demise of religion and the intolerance inherent to it. Before the muzzies started bombing us, Christian extremist were bombing abortion clinics and assassinating doctors.

Wrong.

Conservatives are still pretty religious, there are plenty of religious left-wing people as well. People are just taking a more serious view of religious liberty now. As for your associate about Christian extremists, that was two guys nowhere near the hundreds of thousands of Jihadis.

 

[Spike]

Trump Raises $80 Million in Major July Fundraising Bounce

Trump boasted of the grassroots support his campaign has been getting from small donors.

"We have raised with the small donor $35.8 million," Trump said Monday at an event in Columbus, Ohio. "Think of that, I believe it’s 517,000 donors. Think of that. That’s in a month."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-raises-80-million-major-july-fundraising-bounce/story?id=41111456

-------------------------------

Small donation Bernie supporters switching to Trump?

BWAhahahahahahah

 

[ark steel]

if you were going to explain this to George Will, the Bush's, Romney, Kasich, etc. what examples would you give of how Trump appeals to the constituency where they did not?

The GOP quit on its constituents. Only two presidents have entered office with their party in control of Congress only to have their party lose control of Congress at the first mid-term election. Bill Clinton and The Big O.

Libs and their MSM dogs would like us to believe that it was the GOP racist constituency that took the House, then the Senate from the Dems cause they couldn't stand a black man in charge. A real thinker knows that isn't true, but the narrative lives.

The constituency, clearly, but the GOP in control of Congress to stop The Big O's policies. Had someone tell me that it was only because the state GOP won their state elections and gerrymandered to diffuse the minorty vote...as if the Senate isnt a statewide race. That might explain some individual House races, but not all. And those districts had (in many cases been gerrymandered in the Dems favor in previous years). If someone can't see that, well, they are beyond help.

In any event, the GOP took control of Congress. When the newly elected tried to step up and do the jobs they were sent to do, their own party "leaders" did not support them. The GOP constituency has, finally, revolted. I think you could say that they partially did so at The Big O's second election by not showing up for Romney. The GOP put up a slate that didn't even win their home states!

IMO, it is less about the particular person of Trump than the GOP constituency's big FU to the establishment GOP that wouldn't listen. Finally get rid of Boehner only to put Ryan (one of the aforementioned losers) in power. And, IIRC only with the promise that they wouldn't then replace him.

The establishment GOP lost touch with their constituency and the guiding principals of what it means to be conservative. They think growing government by 5% instead of 10% is a success. They lost themselves. Trump is the result of their downfall, not the cause.