no doubt. but if say Dart were to make it out of the 1st, packaging Pickens and a late pick for a possible franchise QB might be worth it. Yes, I know after Metcalf and GP we have ****, but we have less than **** at QB now.
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Agreed- you don’t trade Pickens and then hope you can replace him with a 2nd-3rd round receiver in a fairly weak WR class.
The guaranteed money Pickens would require to resign would be so much that they aren’t going to extend him and then trade him next year and eat that huge cap hit…especially just to move up a round in his trade value.
That would be an absolutely awful cap move.
If resigned he’ll be here at least 3 more years.
I would bet the plan is 1 year rental followed by a tag provided he is a good citizen. Maybe an extension is worked during the tag period. If he’s not a good citizen it will be one year rental followed
by a comp pick in his departure. Or least probable is they can’t overpay a vet QB and the money starts burning a hole in Khan’s pocket and they extend him before the season starts.
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If they deem Dart as a “possible franchise QB”there is zero chance they don’t take him at 21 if he’s on the board.
They’ll take a guy they deem as a “possible franchise QB” and run to the podium to do it if that is their feeling on him. No way do they hope he’s still around in the 2nd and hope they can find a trade partner.
They’d simply wait til the 3rd for their next pick or grab Dart at 21 and then package their 3rd and a 3rd from next year and maybe even flip a late round pick in too if they want back in the 2nd that badly. Good news is there will still be quality DL players in the 3rd-5th.
I’d wager Dart gone before 21 so likely a non issue anyways.
I’ve said this from his rookie season on. ( which of course doesn’t make it so). There’s no doubt in my mind that George will bolt Pittsburgh for the bright lights of some big city as soon as he’s able to in FA. With a bit of drama if things don’t go his way. We all know he will get a massive contract wherever he chooses to play. We are much more than a player away. I really hope we are pro active and not be caught again with no plan. Make a trade if someone offers us a ton.
We all know that going into his 4th season it will be his 6th QB chucking the pigskin. And even when we sign Rodgers,will he really be here longer than one or two seasons? Then if we draft our young gun,it would be learning curve and #7 QB’s in 5 years.
To be honest in one way with the lack of stability in the QB position,coupled with the conservative,nothing short of horrific approach offensively by our coaching staff,I don’t blame him at all if he bolts. Let’s get something for him.
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Take Egbuka at 1.21, use the 2nd rounder on another position. Egbuka is the anti-Pickens, great route runner, great blocker, team player, hard worker, can play inside and outside.
Who knows how Pickens will react in a contract year if he feels he isn’t getting the ball enough.
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Pickens>Egbuka and it isn’t even close
Not sure how a slot receiver makes any sense for the AS offense that needs two dominant perimeter receivers. Factor in Tomlin’s aversion to using the middle of the field and AS preferring 12 and 13 personnel and Egbuka just looks like another square peg to me…on this team
He could excel in KC, LAR or several other spots
I wouldn’t touch him before the 3rd round for how he would fit in this scheme tho
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Not to mention we already have a player that fits that description on the team in Wilson, and Tomlin didn't like how he was struggling with the playbook. Probably because he was used to running routes in the middle of the field and now it's off limits lol
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he can't see the middle of the field and doesn't have the wheels anymore to extend plays
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They are not going to trade Pickens. If by the slimmest of chance it does happen, they will go for MAX picks even so that there may be next years involved.
Rogers is a one year bridge, there is no way he makes two. Given his 42 year old bones and his big mouth attitude, will garner a no return for second year of contract. If by some chance he does return it will be to mentor a draft pick FRANCHISE QB.
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Rogers is a one year bridge, there is no way he makes two. Given his 42 year old bones and his big mouth attitude, will garner a no return for second year of contract. If by some chance he does return it will be to mentor a draft pick FRANCHISE QB.
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Pretty sure he was talking about the other Wilson…Roman Wilson
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Ohhh that makes sense hahah
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A case of mistaken identity,
Litos may have been under the influence of a hallucinogen. I mistakenly made an AIR-drop on his coordinates but wasn’t sure if it was a practice package or a real deal type. Sometimes flying in my Spirit World affects my reality concept. No fears though as my business plan is solid and he has been billed for the full amount, worded in free delivery but fuel costs have been added on.
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I'm surprised that this surprises you. The standard is the standard.
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Last couple years have been different. I was expecting more.
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Which is substandard
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They are still furiously spending every minute in negotiating the finishing touches to the Aiyuk deal, until that gets done they will be preoccupied getting that fish in the boat.
It’s almost like earmarking 30-40 million per for Old Man Rodgers is poor strategic cap usage?
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I think you're right that QB is the biggest surprise.
I thought we'd do more to keep Fields. I thought he'd make close to (but not equal or over) $20MM. I also thought he'd be cheaper than Russ, who I thought would be just under $30MM / year.
Which is why I wanted us to get Fields and not Russ. Thought they were about a push from a results point of view, but that Fields would be cheaper with at least one high end talent.
If we end up signing Rodgers, my guess is that I will ultimately end up believing that I'd rather have Fields on his contract than Rodgers on his. But I do think we're low-balling him. So we'll see what the numbers end up being.
Not UFA, but I was also surprised that we'd trade a 2nd round pick to get DK. And that we'd give him guaranteed money past year 1. For non-QBs (Ben), I think this is something we've only ever done for all-pro guys who signed market setting contracts for their positions.
I thought we'd do more to keep Fields. I thought he'd make close to (but not equal or over) $20MM. I also thought he'd be cheaper than Russ, who I thought would be just under $30MM / year.
Which is why I wanted us to get Fields and not Russ. Thought they were about a push from a results point of view, but that Fields would be cheaper with at least one high end talent.
If we end up signing Rodgers, my guess is that I will ultimately end up believing that I'd rather have Fields on his contract than Rodgers on his. But I do think we're low-balling him. So we'll see what the numbers end up being.
Not UFA, but I was also surprised that we'd trade a 2nd round pick to get DK. And that we'd give him guaranteed money past year 1. For non-QBs (Ben), I think this is something we've only ever done for all-pro guys who signed market setting contracts for their positions.
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Biggest surprise to date........that Rudy just might be our starting QB on opening day......that they lost out on Fields because of their infatuation on Rodgers on a one year deal(I read that might be the sticking point for Rodgers signing). Last season it was a WR that bitched us around.....this season it is a QB. What is coming for us next offseason?
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If Dart makes it past the first round no one is really considering him a franchise QB.
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What have you seen from Rodgers that says QB "mentor"?
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I’m saying they will probably have him under a 2yr contract, so they won’t cut him. He will be here so the new / young / QB can maybe learn.
I don’t like Roger’s even com ing here but you have a HC who has a man crush on him……. So it might be inevitable .
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In our offense. With the scheme we have....there is no such thing as a franchise QB. QBs come here to die.
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Fields chose to NOT be here. It’s not even known if he gave the Steelers a chance to counter offer. My first choice was to get Fields back on a 2-3yr deal.
Russ Wilson was not getting a chance to come back here. Many sources spoke of how much the inside brass FO disliked him. DK Sports was one for an example. They never made him an offer and never pursued him at all. Contrary to what the talking heads claimed.
A-Rod was targeted. They even tried to make his facility visit secret, until it got out. Tomlin claims he doesn’t know when rogers will make his decision, but my suspicion is it will coincide with his buddy Pat McAfee April 9th Pittsburgh Raw show.
Rudolf is the only bright spot to this point of QB room. Personally, I advocated this as a good signing. I think The big picture is Rudy can give us what we need and feels like we are making a move towards future building. An excellent back up when needed.
A QB not yet on the roster, via a draft pick. That draft pick will hing place as wether or not Roger’s is on the roster at that time.
At the owners meetings, Tomlin stated that the roster is being built right up to the start of training camp (the question was in relations to current QB situation). I took it to mean he would wait to hear about his boy rogers. He has also said they can start Rudy.
I can’t see anything that states a QB move of pure success fior this season. Regardless of blame, this looks real amateurish and laugh-able on the Steelers. I think every team in the NFL is giving us the side eye snicker.
Side BooB is A-ok, side eye snicker is NOT.
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Russ Wilson was not getting a chance to come back here. Many sources spoke of how much the inside brass FO disliked him. DK Sports was one for an example. They never made him an offer and never pursued him at all. Contrary to what the talking heads claimed.
A-Rod was targeted. They even tried to make his facility visit secret, until it got out. Tomlin claims he doesn’t know when rogers will make his decision, but my suspicion is it will coincide with his buddy Pat McAfee April 9th Pittsburgh Raw show.
Rudolf is the only bright spot to this point of QB room. Personally, I advocated this as a good signing. I think The big picture is Rudy can give us what we need and feels like we are making a move towards future building. An excellent back up when needed.
A QB not yet on the roster, via a draft pick. That draft pick will hing place as wether or not Roger’s is on the roster at that time.
At the owners meetings, Tomlin stated that the roster is being built right up to the start of training camp (the question was in relations to current QB situation). I took it to mean he would wait to hear about his boy rogers. He has also said they can start Rudy.
I can’t see anything that states a QB move of pure success fior this season. Regardless of blame, this looks real amateurish and laugh-able on the Steelers. I think every team in the NFL is giving us the side eye snicker.
Side BooB is A-ok, side eye snicker is NOT.
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