which of Terry's passes was do or die? game on the line final minutes with the Steelers trailing?
I think there are many truths in your post. These arguments are stupid and both players are great. But when someone says that Ben couldn't play in Terry's era that is preposterous. He is 6'4 240 (off the top of my head) he is virtually bigger than everyone on the defense except the tubs of goo. And people are talking about Ben's arm and legs. Yeah because in his era he could play to damn near 40. When all those things leave you and all you have left is your brain. Young Ben had a rocket arm and was what my friend says ackwardly athletic and agile.
That’s the problem I have with comparing era to era. You could probably say the same thing about half of the avg QBs on any roster today. The game is so much more complex, analysis is advanced, the players are so much much more athletic, prepared and trained. It’s like saying, “Today’s 1st infantry division would kick the ***** of those guys that landed on D-Day.”
Add to that, scouting combines had timed him at a somewhat unimpressive 4.8 in the 40-yard dash. And finally, the coaches in the 1974 Senior Bowl played him at defensive back, rather than at wide receiver.
Exactly. And like it or not. Watch Romo break down a play before it happens. Terry would be capable of saying I think they are gonna pass here
You are right in the sense that football has gotten more and more complex. I'm just saying at the end of the day football is always what it has been...the team that tackles better, blocks better and so on is going to win.
100 percent because they can all keep up with the scheme and complexity part. But if we are gonna say the Tomlin Steelers didn't get out schemed by Belichick that isn't true either.
On some level I always thought teams would lose to NE because they worried about scheme. If I can explain what I mean...take the Steelers, especially in Ben's younger years or the year with Kordell. Ok, you go in knowing that Belechick is gonna scheme you...so you let your athletes be athletes. With Kordell, if you get confused just run. Who gives a **** if they say you aren't a passer, just go. Just win the game. I don't think scheme can account for that. Same with Ben when younger.
Oh I completely agree there was a mental edge there. And teams worrying about changing verbiage and signals didn't help either. But in my opinion the bigger issue was this. They had Brady which was advantage one. Then they drafted very low and went for scheme fit instead of superstar. And the scheme is we are an ameba. What ever you are really good at we will take away. Meanwhile the Steelers have always been we are what we are. We are our identity. The Pats really didn't even think about the division. It was usually a forfeit. So they have all the Steelers tape and they are not going to change what they do best. Meanwhile the Pats could transform from a run play action homerun team to a quick pass ball control offense in a week.
Ok. Let's take Malik Willis. I think he will bust. I really do. But if you honestly believe if he was theoretically transported to 1978 that jaws wouldn't literally drop you are seriously high. And explained the term watered down or me. Because the colleges produce way more pro ready players then ever before. So if you are talking about cartoon spiking a player on his head. Or all that crazy **** yeah. It's watered down from tge pro wrestling days. But if those head hits continued it was literally a matter of time before someone was going to die there in front of 10 million people.
At his college work out for coaches, he ran slow in the rain on a **** surface. Bill Nunn decided to forgo his flight back and stuck around. The next day he had Stallworth run again and the results were much better. I remember the fourth quarter long touchdown he caught to put us ahead of the rams in the SB, he ran away from everyone. Then he caught another deep ball over his shoulder where he had to slow down which allowed the DBs to catch up. Not to mention his short out against the cowboys in the super bowl the year before. He sprinted down the sideline past the cowboys secondary for about 70 yards and a touchdown. John Stallworth was a guy who would be great in any era.
Watered down. Ok there are stiffs like Jared Goff, Kirk Cousins and Baker Mayfield putting up numbers that are as good as QBs in the Hall of Fame Today's pussified NFL is all about easy short completions that any QB can compete and thrive in. It doesn't take much to geta 90QB rating and the league is full of bad QBs doing just that.
Well said, totally agree. Was thinking about that catch and run in the Super Bowl as well. Stallworth could also High Point a ball just like he did on the first touchdown in that game.
Bradshaw never lost a super bowl either
The Steelers also faced great teams that also kept their players like the Raiders, Dolphins, etc who were all time great teams . The Steelers dominated in the golden age of the NFL against teams with tons of Hall of Famers. Cuts both ways.
