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Who was the worst FA/Trade signing ever by the Steelers?

TDX27 said:
They still refuse to throw to Roman. He had 1 freaking target, yet he probably gets open the most. One play, he was wide open, and Rodgers threw it too far. I saw another play where he was wide open (no one within yards of him), and the throw went to the midget Austin, and he had no chance to catch it. He is too small for the types of throws they send his way, or the QB just doesn't throw it far enough for Austin's speed.

Having no WR2 is Kahn and Tomlin's fault. MVS is not a WR2. He is at best a WR3, and even that is very generous.

They absolutely must give Howard a chance to play this year, but you know Tomlin won't. If he gets to the Ratbird game at the end of the season with no playoff hopes and his .500 record on the line, he will keep the starters in. That is how he rolls. If he can keep his personal streak intact, he will do anything to do so.
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I think Howard is the only motivation that this team has left to do anything other then go through the routine week to week. If Howard steps in I would think they would all want to do their best to step up for him as veterans and make the best of his debut.
 
I talked to people at the gym today and they were like but the team is always good. Yeah if you consider better then the Clowns Raiders and Jets good......and I would live down there for 3 or 4 for a chance to contend again.
 
madinsomniac said:
As was said earlier, Kahn is a dealmaker... Tomlin makes the roster moves... its been that way since cowher won the power struggle with donahue.. steelers coaches drive player move movement
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Whether roster moves or deal making Kahn shouldn't be in the position he is in if he cant adequately do his job...andhes done horrible job even on the dealmaking part. Whose idea was it to give Watt 41 million? You're gonna tell me Tomlin is responsible for that also??
 
stillwright said:
Is it to early to say Metcalf? Or was it Fitzpatrick? Both have to rank right up there in the top of the top. No? Is/was it the player or the scheme we put them in...what we ask from them? We made Fritzpatrick the highest paid safety. We made Metcalf one of the highest paid WR's. Did we get our money's worth? Is the jury still out on Metcalf? I guess Metcalf still can change it around perhaps.
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Hard to judge anyone playing in our schemes. Minkah’s having a bounceback year in Miami.

The trade was bad, though, because it was made to secure a .500 season when all they had to do was ride out one bad year and draft Burrow, Herbert, Love, Hurts, or Tua.
 
Metcalf has to be up there on the list as far as poor value. $60 million guaranteed signing bonus after giving up a second round pick for him. The guy is currently #45 in the NFL in receptions and #32 in receiving yards. DK's not worth what the Steelers paid because he's not producing, and he's not able to help other receivers excel in this offense, even if he is drawing safety coverage up top.

Maybe it wasn't a horrendous idea at the time, but once the Steelers traded Pickens, this move was completely handicapped.
 
NoKap#7 said:
Whether roster moves or deal making Kahn shouldn't be in the position he is in if he cant adequately do his job...andhes done horrible job even on the dealmaking part. Whose idea was it to give Watt 41 million? You're gonna tell me Tomlin is responsible for that also??
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You do understand that Kahn is doing mostly the same job he has done since 2001 with a different title and the ability to negotiate trades... he has been the capologist who did all the financial deals, they just named him GM and brought in an assistant GM to do talent scouting ....
 
madinsomniac said:
You do understand that Kahn is doing mostly the same job he has done since 2001 with a different title and the ability to negotiate trades... he has been the capologist who did all the financial deals, they just named him GM and brought in an assistant GM to do talent scouting ....
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Im fully aware of the role he played before and after he became GM. My question is when TJ Watt shows up at the bargaining table to negotiate his contract with his agent isnt Omar sitting across from him and as GM has the power to say we cant dole out this type of money for this type of production....or your age, or your injury history,etc??

Doesn't he have the power to say..."Mike, you know what....Jerry is trying to finesse us on this trade?" ...thats even if Tomlin wanted it, which im not convinced he did....but doesnt he have to power to veto a bad deal where clearly the Steelers are being shafted???
 
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NoKap#7 said:
Im fully aware of the role he played before and after he became GM. My question is when TJ Watt shows up at the bargaining table to negotiate his contract with his agent isnt Omar sitting actoss from him and as GM has the power to say we cant dole out this type of money for this type of production....or your age, or your injury history,etc??
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Well lets look at those....

Injury history... he has had one major injury, back in 2022, missing 7 games
Outside of that he missed two games as a rookie, 1 in 2020, and 2 in 2021. He didnt miss a game in 23 or 24... so where exactly was the concern there?

type of production: he had 11.5 sacks last year and was second in the league in TFL... in 23 he led the league in sacks and was top 5 in TFL... thats top end production...

His age: he is 31. Top end pass rushers are productive till like 34 or 35... some last till 38

People wanting them to have cut ties with him are the same type of people who bitched when they cut ties with Rod Woodson too early...

Now a legitimate argument could be made they should have rebuilt the D and let Heyward and TJ chase championships elsewhere... but if you are trying to win now TJ is still a valuable piece... assuming you arent gonna let teams speed pass out of a pass rush... but we are dumb so....
 
DK Metcalf, made him the 4th highest paid WR in the NFL.
He's 47th in the NFL in catches, he has 1 more catch than our back up RB.
32nd in receiving yards, 27th in TD's.
 
NoKap#7 said:
A flat out rumor could never be considered a worse trade in any context. First of all Tomlin has a non trade clause. Second i doubt he would take another coaching job anywhere because I think he realizes the game is no longer what it used to be to him and the responsible thing is not to take a position with another organization where they expect fire and longevity out of him. I believe he knows hes in his Iast contract here and was hoping to go out the same he came in. I think he honestly was hoping something might spark with the likes of Wilson and Rodgers but they are/were way too past their primes to make a difference where they need so much from their QBs. He was hoping signing a bunch of former All stars on defense might make life difficult for offenses but the money was spent inefficiently. They got the wrong people to do it and we're at where were at. Experienced, but old is not a good combination in this league, but for whatever reason thats what they keep signing.
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I feel like a Redskins fan from the late nineties. The team brought in a grip of future HOF free agents. Every single one of them, has turned out to be wayyyyyyy past their prime.

Used to be pissed because the Steelers would rarely make splashy free agent signings.
After 2 years of big name free agents, I've learned my damn lesson.

Years ago, I heard a Tomlin interview on the Pat Macafee show where Shades floated the idea of being Macafee back to Plum once he got "old and cheap enough".

That line Old and Cheap lives in my head when I think about Kahn's signings. Problem is, they are not cheap by any stretch of the imagination.

Metcalf, whether through scheme or whatever other excuse has been the biggest free agent bust of my dedicated fanhood since the eighties. Before this year, I would have said Duce Staley.
 
flyhatch said:
The Grimble guy?
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Ladarius Green!! finally found it..

On March 10, 2016, the Pittsburgh Steelers signed Green to a four-year, $20 million contract that also includes a signing bonus of $4.75 million. The Steelers signed him to help with a depleted tight end corps after longtime veteran Heath Miller retired during the off-season and Matt Spaeth suffered injuries which would eventually result in his failing of the team physical and release.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladarius_Green#cite_note-signing-15"><span>[</span>15<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladarius_Green#cite_note-sportrac-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> He suffered an ankle injury during the offseason and started the season on the PUP list. He was activated to the active roster on November 12, 2016.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladarius_Green#cite_note-16"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a>

The following day, Green made his highly anticipated regular season debut and finished the loss to the Dallas Cowboys with three catches for thirty yards. On December 4, 2016, Green caught six passes for a career-high 110 receiving yards and scored his first touchdown of the season on a 20-yard pass from Ben Roethlisberger in the Steelers' 24–14 victory over the New York Giants.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladarius_Green#cite_note-NFL-10"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a> The following week, Green earned his first start with the Steelers and caught two passes for 24 receiving yards in a 27–20 victory over the Buffalo Bills.

He started again the following week against the Cincinnati Bengals, catching 5 passes for 72 yards. This performance included a 28-yard third-down catch with under 4 minutes to go in the game, which moved the Steelers into Bengals' territory and allowed Pittsburgh to preserve its 4-point lead on the way to a fifth-straight victory. However, this would ultimately be Green's final play for the Steelers during the 2016 season, as during the conclusion of his catch-and-run, upon being tackled, his head hit off the turf, leading him to be helped off the field. He was ultimately diagnosed with a concussion, missing the Steelers' final two regular season games, as well as all three playoff games.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladarius_Green#cite_note-17"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a>

Green was released by the Steelers on May 18, 2017, with a failed physical designation.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladarius_Green#cite_note-18"><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a>
 
According to AI:

In August 1978, the Steelers traded veteran wide receiver Frank Lewis, a former first-round pick and key deep threat on their early-’70s teams, to Buffalo in exchange for tight end Paul Seymour. Seymour failed his physical with Pittsburgh and never played a snap for the Steelers, leaving them without the player they acquired and permanently losing Lewis.

That sounds like the worst trade ever to me. Damn!
 
Criticize the FO before you trash the players. Metcalf is a #1 without a QB. The FO has been kicking the can down the street for nine years

Tomlin is a better HC than at least half of the others.

Imagine this team with an aggressive owner and GM instead of an owner who prefers status quo over success.

Imagine trading Ben after 17 or 18 instead of holding on

And if you say hindsight is 20/20 I fully agree
I'll also agree if you say it's no guarantee that any of the draft picks would have been great QBs

But what kills any chance at success is the Rooney's policy of honoring the past by foregoing the future

QNd before all the shopping wet vaginas chime in with the Fire Tomlin chants

Firing Tomlin is fine if it's part of organizational change. If you only Fire Tomlin, you get a new HC who works in the same dysfunctional, Clevelandish organization.
 
Badcat said:
According to AI:

In August 1978, the Steelers traded veteran wide receiver Frank Lewis, a former first-round pick and key deep threat on their early-’70s teams, to Buffalo in exchange for tight end Paul Seymour. Seymour failed his physical with Pittsburgh and never played a snap for the Steelers, leaving them without the player they acquired and permanently losing Lewis.

That sounds like the worst trade ever to me. Damn!
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Great find.

Lewis went on to have 1082 receiving yards in 1979 and 1244 in 1981 with the Bills. Thousand-yard seasons really meant something in that era, too.
 
Chicoman said:
They overpaid for DK Metcalf....he's always been overrated as a WR and we paid him $133 Million! YIKES!

Patrick Queen sucks *** too! He's never been good in the 3 seasons he's been here!
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Queen has always been sometimey - dating back to his days at LSU. You can go see my complaints about him in many chats; but, he's a Steeler now so there's that. DK - schemes be damned - he does not run the entire route tree and drops as many as he catches. Add the 133mil to the equation and it STINKS HORRIBLY...
 
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