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Winter Olymics

Steelr4evr said:
You missed a hell of a game. I watched the entire thing. To be honest when we went down 2-1 with 8 min left to play in the 3rd I figured that was going to be it. It wasn't pretty early on. I spend half the game pissed off at a nasty head shot team USA got and no penalty at all. Then bam we tied it. Then chances both ways,then OT which the us women controlled well. Then they got called on a penalty that gave Canada the powerplay with less than 2 min to go in over time. They killed it. The damn shootout went to round two and we buried it.....I was actually pretty shocked at the NHL type superstar moves put on in that shootout...epic win!

I do believe the replay is on today at 4pm for those who missed it.
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Dvr'd the game.
That shoot out game winner. Deked that goalie out of her skates
 
Shootouts are part of hockey. You don't like them, stop watching. It's not like the women had a 5min OT like the men. They played for another full 20 min. You pissed that Canada lost? **** Canada. They had their chance at the end of the OT on a 4 on 3 PP, where they had the game winning shot off a rebound stolen by Rooney's shaft. Rooney should be a household name for that save, and he announcers didn't even catch it. You could only see the save on the overhead angle. It was EPIC!

Then shootout hits. US team scores first, Canada scores the next 2. Us Ties it, then wins in extra skaters. I'd rather watch that than 2 teams go conservative for another 20 minutes, and possibly another 20 minutes after that...
 
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DOWN GOES CANADA!

Again!


Germany Stuns Defending Champions Canada to Face OAR in Men's Ice Hockey Final
 
Yea, we know. Some of us watched it this morning. In the other thread...
 
Cope said:
Shootouts are part of hockey. You don't like them, stop watching. It's not like the women had a 5min OT like the men. They played for another full 20 min. You pissed that Canada lost? **** Canada. They had their chance at the end of the OT on a 4 on 3 PP, where they had the game winning shot off a rebound stolen by Rooney's shaft. Rooney should be a household name for that save, and he announcers didn't even catch it. You could only see the save on the overhead angle. It was EPIC!

Then shootout hits. US team scores first, Canada scores the next 2. Us Ties it, then wins in extra skaters. I'd rather watch that than 2 teams go conservative for another 20 minutes, and possibly another 20 minutes after that...
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A shoot out with individuals is a ****** way to determine the winner in any team sport, sport.

Soccer, Bettman and the IIHF are all wrong on this. I don't care if it makes for better TV, or that you like it.

You demonstrate with your description, in detail, of one game saving play. Thanks for making my point.

And from Canada, **** Cope.


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Spike said:
DOWN GOES CANADA!

Again!


Germany Stuns Defending Champions Canada to Face OAR in Men's Ice Hockey Final
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No one cares. Olympic men's hockey is now just like pre 1988. Pointless, except for one tourney where courageous college kids beat the red devil.

The curling losses are far worse .


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Confluence said:
A shoot out with individuals is a ****** way to determine the winner in any team sport, sport.

Soccer, Bettman and the IIHF are all wrong on this. I don't care if it makes for better TV, or that you like it.

You demonstrate with your description, in detail, of one game saving play. Thanks for making my point.

And from Canada, **** Cope.


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Here's the problem, other then getting personal in a discussion...

The olympics, the world cup of hockey, and the world cup of soccer are tournaments. They aren't leagues. Tournament style, you have to take into account your spectators, and there has to be a defined amount of time the game needs to be over by, because you have entire nations filing in and out of stadiums between games.

Since both hockey and soccer are low scoring games, compared to every other sport mentioned, it makes sense to come up with a way to end contests that could go on for hours. Traditionalist may like the idea of play until there is a winner, but most people will not tune into a 4-6hr game unless their country is involved. It's why no one wants to watch cricket in this country. You think baseball is bad, try making it longer and less entertaining.

Playing for a winning goal works in the NHL playoffs. Why? Because you have your fan bases vested in their teams at this point. It's also a local stadium filled with local fans. Not an international grouping of people who may be there to see the teams playing or are waiting for their teams to play next, so they have tickets for both matches.

It's also why shootouts work in the regular season. I'm taking my kid to the game, they have school tomorrow. a 7pm start means I'm getting out of there at 9:30p. Worst case 9:45 with a 5min OT and a shootout, which is exciting as hell if it gets to that point.

The olympics recognized the need to try and have players determine the game before shootout, which is why the rules changed each round:
Round robin, a 5min 3 on 3.
Medal rounds a 10min 4 on 4
Gold medal games, a 20 min 4 on 4.

Now we could get into the specifics of 4 on 4s and 3 on 3s not being a traditional 5 on 5 outcome, which they aren't. It's the game being played differently in that situation as well. So no matter what, in international play, when you go to OT, you are going to be playing the game under different rules than what you played for an hour of regulation.

Both teams had a whole 20min of OT play to win. Neither did. Canada's was on the ropes all OT. The US team was the better team in OT by a mile! Canada was rarely in the US zone, and when they got pucks in, they had to change since the US team was all over them and controlling the puck. I know this because I stayed up to watch the whole game, not just react to what people said about OT. The only way Canada could get a shot off in OT was because they had a 4 on 3 PP for the last 1:30 of OT. If Canada would have won in shootout, that night, the lesser team would have won. The US team was just better that night, and good for them for making it happen in shootout.
 
Cope said:
Here's the problem, other then getting personal in a discussion...

The olympics, the world cup of hockey, and the world cup of soccer are tournaments. They aren't leagues. Tournament style, you have to take into account your spectators, and there has to be a defined amount of time the game needs to be over by, because you have entire nations filing in and out of stadiums between games.

Since both hockey and soccer are low scoring games, compared to every other sport mentioned, it makes sense to come up with a way to end contests that could go on for hours. Traditionalist may like the idea of play until there is a winner, but most people will not tune into a 4-6hr game unless their country is involved. It's why no one wants to watch cricket in this country. You think baseball is bad, try making it longer and less entertaining.

Playing for a winning goal works in the NHL playoffs. Why? Because you have your fan bases vested in their teams at this point. It's also a local stadium filled with local fans. Not an international grouping of people who may be there to see the teams playing or are waiting for their teams to play next, so they have tickets for both matches.

It's also why shootouts work in the regular season. I'm taking my kid to the game, they have school tomorrow. a 7pm start means I'm getting out of there at 9:30p. Worst case 9:45 with a 5min OT and a shootout, which is exciting as hell if it gets to that point.

The olympics recognized the need to try and have players determine the game before shootout, which is why the rules changed each round:
Round robin, a 5min 3 on 3.
Medal rounds a 10min 4 on 4
Gold medal games, a 20 min 4 on 4.

Now we could get into the specifics of 4 on 4s and 3 on 3s not being a traditional 5 on 5 outcome, which they aren't. It's the game being played differently in that situation as well. So no matter what, in international play, when you go to OT, you are going to be playing the game under different rules than what you played for an hour of regulation.

Both teams had a whole 20min of OT play to win. Neither did. Canada's was on the ropes all OT. The US team was the better team in OT by a mile! Canada was rarely in the US zone, and when they got pucks in, they had to change since the US team was all over them and controlling the puck. I know this because I stayed up to watch the whole game, not just react to what people said about OT. The only way Canada could get a shot off in OT was because they had a 4 on 3 PP for the last 1:30 of OT. If Canada would have won in shootout, that night, the lesser team would have won. The US team was just better that night, and good for them for making it happen in shootout.
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I guess you didn't read my posts above .

That's ok; you felt the need to be sanctimonious. Glad you could spew here.

The US women's hockey team, for years, has been the equal or better of the Canadian women's team. The Canadian ladies just happened to be very fortunate for the last few Olympic gold medal games. In the future, because of a lack of high level women's hockey in Canada ( no pro league, or college athletic scholarships) is highly likely that the US team will completely dominate, probably for decades at least.


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Confluence said:
I guess you didn't read my posts above .

That's ok; you felt the need to be sanctimonious. Glad you could spew here.

The US women's hockey team, for years, has been the equal or better of the Canadian women's team. The Canadian ladies just happened to be very fortunate for the last few Olympic gold medal games. In the future, because of a lack of high level women's hockey in Canada ( no pro league, or college athletic scholarships) is highly likely that the US team will completely dominate, probably for decades at least.


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Zero need to be sanctimonious, I just enjoy discussions.

I agree with you. Now with the women winning equitable pay last year, this team should be the gold standard for years to come!
 
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