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Would you trade Claypool

I’ll catch crap for this, but I’d trade DJ before Claypool. Pickens is an emerging #1. DJs athleticism is clearly obvious, but 3 QBs in and he’s not show to be a consistent game breaker.
No crap from me on this pittbull...I feel the same way..

If they do trade either DJ or Claypool to the Packers...I would ask for their running back Dillon.

I was pulling for us to draft this kid a few years back..
 
A few things for me to move Claypool.
How are we going to work Cal Austin III into the offense?
Can he be utilized in a way that will take advantage of his speed?
Can we work Steven Sims and Myles Boykin into Chase’s spot and how would they perform? Better do that in a hurry!
What is the return on Claypool? I’m not settling for anything less than a second round pick in 2023.
I’d be giving Simms, Boykin, and Cal some snaps the next two games.
 
Again anyone willing to trade him for a second or less, please spell out an empirical case that we shouldn’t hold onto him at least until the draft or ask for a first… take into account his production, potential, cap cost, contract left, as well as the current market for WRs…

Yes he has route issues and sometimes misplays balls… if he didn’t, this guy would be a 25 million dollar wr… trading low on guys like this is idiotic, because barring injury, you could get a second rounder with no trouble next draft even if he is just an an average #2 wr again… and make no mistake he is an above average 2 wr…
 
I would take a haul to replace his 1st down celebrations.
 
Again anyone willing to trade him for a second or less, please spell out an empirical case that we shouldn’t hold onto him at least until the draft or ask for a first… take into account his production, potential, cap cost, contract left, as well as the current market for WRs…

Yes he has route issues and sometimes misplays balls… if he didn’t, this guy would be a 25 million dollar wr… trading low on guys like this is idiotic, because barring injury, you could get a second rounder with no trouble next draft even if he is just an an average #2 wr again… and make no mistake he is an above average 2 wr…
You’re simply not getting a first round pick for him. If we can get a second round pick and they believe that Cal Austin and Steven Simms can replace him and Boykin can contribute I think they would do it.
 
You’re simply not getting a first round pick for him. If we can get a second round pick and they believe that Cal Austin and Steven Simms can replace him and Boykin can contribute I think they would do it.
So there were what? Four or five wrs traded for firsts this off-season… now a couple were straight up superstars like Hill or Adams, and they got HAULS, but Claypool’s production lines up well with AJ Brown and Marquise Brown, who each got firsts despite having far less physical talent and stats that are comparable to Claypool while having worse contracts…


I just think people under value players they don’t like here… there is absolutely no reason to trade this guy for less than a first… if nobody will pay then you just don’t trade him
 
Yes. Because I do not want to pay him like a #1. I think is he a decent, although inconsistent, player that will enough interest to snag a late first.

I'm not on the hate Claypool bus. I'm on the I can see what Claypool is and I don't want to overpay bus.
 
Without Claypool, we lose against Tampa.
I'm going to disagree here. Claypool played the whole game. He wasn't doing much before Trubisky entered the game. After Trubisky entered the game, Claypool had 5 catches for 76 yards and a TD. I know Trubisky isn't highly thought of around here, but he made the difference on Sunday.
 
I'm going to disagree here. Claypool played the whole game. He wasn't doing much before Trubisky entered the game. After Trubisky entered the game, Claypool had 5 catches for 76 yards and a TD. I know Trubisky isn't highly thought of around here, but he made the difference on Sunday.
Claypool is taking advantage of the Mitch - DJ feud
 
I swear some of you would trade half the team if you could, then would go in full meltdown mode if the team ended up deficient in those areas. A struggling team needs all hands on deck.
 
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So there were what? Four or five wrs traded for firsts this off-season… now a couple were straight up superstars like Hill or Adams, and they got HAULS, but Claypool’s production lines up well with AJ Brown and Marquise Brown, who each got firsts despite having far less physical talent and stats that are comparable to Claypool while having worse contracts…


I just think people under value players they don’t like here… there is absolutely no reason to trade this guy for less than a first… if nobody will pay then you just don’t trade him
I don’t dislike the guy, don’t even know him.
I would be elated if they can get a first for him but would be very surprised. He’s been very inconsistent and living off of potential but that goes so far.
We’re too heavy at this position and need to see what Cal Austin and Simms bring to the receiving corp.
 
I'm going to disagree here. Claypool played the whole game. He wasn't doing much before Trubisky entered the game. After Trubisky entered the game, Claypool had 5 catches for 76 yards and a TD. I know Trubisky isn't highly thought of around here, but he made the difference on Sunday.
Sarge,
That is like saying that Ben led the game-winning drive in SB XVIII when we all saw Santonio make all the plays.
 
No way in hell we should trade him at this point unless it’s for a first-round pick that we can use to replace him in the draft.
 
There has been a western boot and clothing store in our city for a long time called Claypools. Found out today the people who own are close relatives.
 
Claypool isn’t a ufa after the season so nothing short of a first rounder to move him. Asset value depends on production, talent potential, and control… selling low on him now makes zero sense. He easily has the potential to be a top wr in the league, but his production is only average to actually a bit above average for a #2 wr. So you are looking at a guy potentially worth far more than a third, who only will bring back a third or less.

There is no reason to move him this season… well, at least short of a gross overpayment… he isn’t expensive and he isn’t about to leave for nothing… Despite what many here think of him, he is clearly a top 50 wr in the league…

Now if we were legit contenders and needed a legit upgrade elsewhere then maybe you move a guy like him in a football trade, but just for a third? Thats just stupid asset management
If many here think to the contrary I doubt how “clearly” he IS a top 50 WR

He’s the 3rd best on our crappy team

Does he have the potential to be too 50? Sure
Has he realized that potential and is a clear top 50? Not yet imo

He’s got to have more than just a decent game every once in a while to be top 50

I’d say hopefully he continues playing well, building on his 1 decent game this year and if he is to be moved likely do that next year… unless someone gives at least a 2nd for him which is highly unlikely where he’s at right now
 
If many here think to the contrary I doubt how “clearly” he IS a top 50 WR

He’s the 3rd best on our crappy team

Does he have the potential to be too 50? Sure
Has he realized that potential and is a clear top 50? Not yet imo

He’s got to have more than just a decent game every once in a while to be top 50

I’d say hopefully he continues playing well, building on his 1 decent game this year and if he is to be moved likely do that next year… unless someone gives at least a 2nd for him which is highly unlikely where he’s at right now
With 23 catches for 225 yards & 1 TD in the first 6 games this year, i might be wrong that he will never become a good receiver, but i'll have to see a whole lot more fire under this guy's ***.

i stand by my 2nd rounder and a practice squad Mike. 2 birds w/ one stone.
 
No way in hell we should trade him at this point unless it’s for a first-round pick that we can use to replace him in the draft.
same. I doubt anyone gives that up. so I guess I am saying no trade.

If washington was to offer the corner the Bengals stole from us and a 2nd or 3rd that would be cool
 
If many here think to the contrary I doubt how “clearly” he IS a top 50 WR

He’s the 3rd best on our crappy team

Does he have the potential to be too 50? Sure
Has he realized that potential and is a clear top 50? Not yet imo

He’s got to have more than just a decent game every once in a while to be top 50

I’d say hopefully he continues playing well, building on his 1 decent game this year and if he is to be moved likely do that next year… unless someone gives at least a 2nd for him which is highly unlikely where he’s at right now
I’m going by stats and production limited to wrs… he is clearly in that range… he is closer to a low end number 1 than people think… they just overestimate wr stats in the nfl …

And im not saying that we should not think about moving him before paying him in the off-season.., just that right now its idiotic to dump the guy for a lower than first round pick, because even a 2nd has a low percent chance of even returning what Claypool is…. There is no real reason to do it unless we are overcompensated…


Claypool only started 13 games last year and was hampered by injuries. He dressed in two more but in a limited capacity due to injuries.. his stats mirrored AJ Brown, a 6’1 receiver who runs a 4.49 40 who started 13 games and had the same targets for virtually the same catches and yards… AJ was a third season WR who was due a massive pay increase, which seems to be a trend in these trades… I see no reason to dump a larger faster guy who is only in his third season and is under contract for another year prior to the draft unless someone really makes it worth our while… a tall fast receiver will have takers after the season
 
same. I doubt anyone gives that up. so I guess I am saying no trade.

If washington was to offer the corner the Bengals stole from us and a 2nd or 3rd that would be cool
No WJ3 eats wayyyyy too much cap space and he has a bad back… we shouldn’t touch him if they were offering us a pick to take him… he literally would eat 55% of our cap space next year and again, his back is not great… a couple years ago, absolutely… but now he is way too risky
 
Absolutely no reason to trade Claypool during the season. Maybe you explore it during the offseason if a team blows the Steelers away with an offer. I really don't think they're going to re-sign him, so maybe you consider this prior to the draft or after the draft if the Steelers add another weapon.
 
If we had lost to Tampa, maybe, as it stands, I don't move him.

Joe
 
Absolutely no reason to trade Claypool during the season. Maybe you explore it during the offseason if a team blows the Steelers away with an offer. I really don't think they're going to re-sign him, so maybe you consider this prior to the draft or after the draft if the Steelers add another weapon.
Yeah, just follow the hockey rules of trading… people here want to cut bait before they need to on guys…

There are reasons to deal guys… like lets say they found a buyer on Bush… Bush is an UFA in the offseason. Bush also carries a 6 million dollar salary this year, so the Cap savings would be a significant 3.9 million dollars protated for the final 11 weeks… so while you lose 2/3rd of a season with a young player with potential this year, you gain an asset and 3.9 million that rolls over into next year for a player who wasn’t going to be here or that you can simply resign if you really wanted to. You do lose a comp pick equation, but unless you think its going to be significant it really shouldn’t matter.. moreover they have a young player behind Bush that can get playing time in a mostly lost season

Or lets say they dealt Gunner… you aren’t getting a great piece for him, and he is under contract next year, but assuming CA3 comes back we have 3 return guys on the roster who are in this mold and he is the least useful at Wr… he doesn’t really have a large upside and his physical attributes are pedestrian.. he actually costs a frw bucks more than Chase next season so the cap gain would be about the same… not totally insignificant but not really worth moving a player with any potential for.

Claypool has 225 yards this year… while off his career pace, its solid for a number 3 wr… that projects to 637 yards. Last season that would have been good enough for ( among wrs) 47th in the league… he is still making less than half what that slot earns in the current NFL.. while we have a glit of Wrs and trading one does make sense… trading him only makes sense if the return is better than a second… where 75% of the picks will be substantandard busts below what Claypool is giving now..

A first, where you are more likely to get a player of Claypools current production or a rostered player that fills a hole on the Steelers for a significant amount of years going forward.., that or just keep him on the team.
 
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