I think the problem is Rooney sees it as a playoff win caliber team.
As long as he sees it as that the expectation will be just that.
Would You Welcome Back Rodgers Again?
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As long as he sees it as that the expectation will be just that.
I would welcome him back. He can clearly still make all the throws. A better o-line coach and coaches who can actually game plan would be a huge improvement. I can’t think of a better mentor for Will either.
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There aren't many options:
Old veteran: Rodgers, Flacco, Cousins
Rehab project with a pricetag: Willis, Jones
Pure stopgap: Mariota, Taylor, Jimmy G.
Young QB: Will Howard
Draft pick: Simpson or Chambliss
It isn't my preferred pathway, but I'm not going to denounce my fandom if Rodgers comes back. I'm fine with it as long as they bolster the talent around him, particularly at wide receiver.
Old veteran: Rodgers, Flacco, Cousins
Rehab project with a pricetag: Willis, Jones
Pure stopgap: Mariota, Taylor, Jimmy G.
Young QB: Will Howard
Draft pick: Simpson or Chambliss
It isn't my preferred pathway, but I'm not going to denounce my fandom if Rodgers comes back. I'm fine with it as long as they bolster the talent around him, particularly at wide receiver.
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We are at a crossroad at the moment. We can turn left and do a rebuild. Start Mason/Howard and possibly get a high draft position next off. Then rebuild. Turn right. Resign Rodgers. Draft another qb this year. Go 8 and 9 or 9 and 8...possibly making the playoffs with no real SB chance. Orsimply go drive straight. Thinking we are actually SB contenders. Resign Rodgers. Draft as we are on the brink of greatness. And let the season unfold. I think most know where Rooney's thoughts are.
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This is my opinion what will happen. Not what I think should happen. Rodgers comes back and they take a qb in second if Chambliss is still there. Third if he is not. Rudolph is gone. Then they roll with Rodgers and Howard and Rookie. Next year is a bit of a right off maybe make playoffs. Then they go with better of 2 in '27
Hell NO! Why would we bring him back? All we heard when Ben came back from his elbow was he's holding the franchise back from finding the next guy, and Ben is an all time Steeler great, and he threw for 55 TD's his final two seasons and alot still wanted him gone. Why in the hell would be bring a guy back that's almost 5 years older than Ben was when he retired, who is afraid of contact, who acts like a damn child and shows his teammates up when things don't go right, but he's had his fair share of screw ups. We beat 1 playoff team with Rodgers.
We need to find the next guy, not watch a 43 year old that can't move get rid of the ball in 2 seconds because he doesn't want to get hit, who the hell is that helping.
We need to find the next guy, not watch a 43 year old that can't move get rid of the ball in 2 seconds because he doesn't want to get hit, who the hell is that helping.
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I don’t entirely disagree but I would rather bring him back if we don’t feel comfortable with the guys in the draft. Would you want another Pickett pick? I don’t Want to waste a pick on a guy that just delays things. I would rather have Rodger’s working with Howard. Have packages in place for Howard and play him extensively in preseason. Build the team in prep for either Him or someone else the next year. It really sucks he missed the preseason last year, we would have better feel for what he can do.
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I may be against the grain here, but don't bring him back. He wants a starting role and will be 43 yrs old.
Last season is as good as he would be, he isn't going to get better.
If in a backup role such as player / coach of some kind, then maybe, his price needs to be very low.
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Last season is as good as he would be, he isn't going to get better.
If in a backup role such as player / coach of some kind, then maybe, his price needs to be very low.
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That's how I feel. I think we should see what we have in Howard, and if it's a bad season so be it. Draft in '27.
I never said anything about reaching in round 1 for a QB.
Take a guy like Mac Jones, draft someone in round 3 or something, and Howard and see if any of them show anything, if they all suck then we look high in the draft next season. If they want Rodgers working with Howard then make him the QB coach. If he plays and mentors Howard, then now you push Howard first real playing time to 2027, another wasted year.
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I think you can still take a third-round guy with Rodgers. Howard sitting behind Rodgers another year doesn't hurt his development any more than it hurt Love or Steve Young or Rodgers himself. In fact, I think it increases the chances of success for a QB. We rush guys way too much and it ruins them way too often.
There's just as many examples of guys playing early and doing well, Favre didn't help Rodgers and Rodgers didn't help Love. Rodgers comes back for another year, and you know nothing more about Howard this coming season as you do now, unless Rodgers gets hurt. What does Rodgers coming here finishing with 8,9, or 10 wins really do for us? Nothing, we draft early 20's again.
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Now there I disagree, the failure rate of QBs in general is horrific and those thrown out there too early is even worse even for first rounders. I also disagree that Love didn't learn by sitting behind Aaron or Aaron sitting behind Favre. He has been mentoring Howard and yes with a full preseason and hopefully being elevated to the 2 slot we could find out about Howard. Particularly with the new system McCarthy will install and Aaron's familiarity with it. I don't see a single free agent option or trade option worth the price over Rodgers. Besides there is a good chance of Aaron going down and Howard getting a shot in my opinion.
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while I didn’t like the McCarthy hire, i fully believe the man knows what he’s doing picking and coaching a QB. He will also run a real offense not the cowardly offense Tomlin has forced on the team since Ben hurt his elbow-so we might see a better Rodgers with McCarthy here
I will trust that whatever McCarthy does at the position is a sound decision. Although I think the mandate is to compete now from Rooney and that might increase the chances of a vet like Rodgers being the guy next year
I will trust that whatever McCarthy does at the position is a sound decision. Although I think the mandate is to compete now from Rooney and that might increase the chances of a vet like Rodgers being the guy next year
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I think we need to bring in a vet QB who is fine as a backup. I'm sure Rodgers won't come back to be a backup and I don't think Mason is the guy. Having rodgers come back is not the worst case scenario but we will be back in this situation again next year. I don't think we should draft a qb just to draft one. If we take a flyer on a physically gifted guy in like round 5 thats fine, but we shouldn't reach for anyone. I would prefer to let Howard play this year and at least see what we got. He did not have a good combine, but maybe he is just not a good "practice" player.
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Let’s just look at how good Roger’s was last year… We bitched about the #2 receiver but would have one really made a difference? Look at the Super Bowl teams. They both had average but very strong arm QBs, qbs that could take the top off the defenses. Both had one receiver who dominated, 2 tight ends to do the dirty work of getting 3rd down 1st downs and work the red zone… both had strong tough running games that could be depended on. Why were both teams so identical? It’s what the defenses give now. The nfl changed the algorithm they are letting the bds beat hell out of receivers which makes for better pass rush and just a better defense all around. QBs aren’t getting to the #2 receivers all across the league. Smith knew this got the big receiver/te Jonnu smith. Problem was… Arron Rodgers would not throw the ball to him! He was open but not by much but also it required Rodgers to throw into the middle of the field which is no man’s land for him. We could have had the best #2 in the league would not have made a difference. Rodgers does NOT have the strong arm needed now… his passing game was a short throw to the tight-end, a crossing pattern/ slant to metcalf, a few deep throws to metcalf and every thing else was a scamble broken play completion to Gainwell…Gainwell lead the team in receiving and not by design. So we could keep Rodgers as a baby blanket or we get on with our lives… I can guarantee one thing Rodgers has played in his last Super Bowl.
I'm trying not to build too much expectation either way because the reality is that it will likely be what I don't want. I'll just go with the flow. My preference is to go with one of the 2-3 QBs that will be on the market, but I'm a little intrigued by the Rodgers/McCarthy combo (especially with a legit receiver corp) and I also wouldn't mind seeing Howard get a shot. The only scenario that would turn me off is going with Mason.
Bringing Rodgers back only kicks the can down the road. We won 1 game vs playoff teams last year, and that was NE turning the ball over 6 times and we still almost lost. Stroud turned the ball over how many times in the playoff game and we still got blown out because Rodgers can't move and wants no parts of contact. It's just dumb. I agree we need a veteran guy that is ok being back up.
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Move forward with Howard as the starter right now.
Cut Rudy. Resign Thompson.
Doing that, the play style of Howard and Thompson are similar. Thus, no need to water down the playbook if Thompson has to step in.
Then draft Chambliss in the 3rd, as he also has similar play style as Howard and Thompson. Sign a guy off the scrap heap to provide an arm during camp.
Move forward with Howard as the starter right now.
Cut Rudy. Resign Thompson.
Doing that, the play style of Howard and Thompson are similar. Thus, no need to water down the playbook if Thompson has to step in.
Then draft Chambliss in the 3rd, as he also has similar play style as Howard and Thompson. Sign a guy off the scrap heap to provide an arm during camp.
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I disagree about Rodgers arm, it's still good. Watching him throw next to Rudolph and Howard at training camp and pregame warmups, it's even more evident--he has rare arm talent, even at his age. The bigger problem is he can't move in the pocket. Darnold was brilliant creating with his pocket movement last night against a tough defense. Rodgers isn't out running defenders anymore and he doesn't want to get hit. However, he can still make any throw when there's a clean pocket and when he trusts that clean pocket. The problem is those days are gone.
Yes.
They WILL sign a vet FA. Rudy ain't the answer and they won't let Howard learn on the job and put that "no lose losing seasons" streak at risk.
Deuce wants that as bad as Shades did.
Your choices are A-Aron, Kirk Cousins, Flacco, Willis, Pickett (wouldn't that be a hoot), and Garoppolo.
A-Aron is the best of the lot although if he doesn't want to come back I'd take Flacco just so he can't kick our *** again.
They WILL sign a vet FA. Rudy ain't the answer and they won't let Howard learn on the job and put that "no lose losing seasons" streak at risk.
Deuce wants that as bad as Shades did.
Your choices are A-Aron, Kirk Cousins, Flacco, Willis, Pickett (wouldn't that be a hoot), and Garoppolo.
A-Aron is the best of the lot although if he doesn't want to come back I'd take Flacco just so he can't kick our *** again.
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I also think Joe Flacco would be a willing #2 and also a great mentor QB as well.
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