WTF are we doing?

[Drink IRON City]

Then why bring him back?....if we had "a really good Oline" he could take us far.....we don't. So F'k even the $13 million. Your G.O.A.T. is finished. Past his glory elite playing days. Just an old qb who misses more deep passes then he hits...afraid to get hit.....at some point it is simply time to move on to the next chapter in your life. That said......if Rooney is stupid enough to bring him back for even the $13 mill....then props to Rodgers. Go get is our next non-losing season!!!!!Fingers rossed. You know....our new standard apparently. The non-losing season where we hopefully squeak into the playoffs where we get our ***** handed to us. Get it done Omar!!!!

Preach it brother……………




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[Don Kedic]

I will concede something about GOAT to you Coryea. Their is a story on the homepage here about Rodgers possibly wanting somewhere in the 30 range to come back. Yeah I'm not giving him 30...he can have the 13 he got last year, maybe 15 to 17 max. I'm not giving him a dime more than that if I'm the F.O.

In a perfect situation, or at least a really good O-line situation yeah he could take us far, but I don't think that's the case here. Save that money to improve the roster.

He's made a shitload of money in his career. If he won't budge off his number let him retire, or screw some other team.

Being as though our F.O. consists of a group of morons - and we have proof that they’re foolish enough to waste money on geriatric talent (Watts, Heyward) don’t be surprised if Grandpa Rodgers ends up with close to that $30m.

And that same F.O. thought Fat Mike would be a good idea after Stupid Mike.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

 

[deljzc]

If we do draft a QB. And I certainly put that percentage at 70/30 we do at SOME point in the draft, I think the odd man out might just be Rudolph..

I mean, what loyalty do we really need to have toward him? He is a backup. And arguably, McCarthy might look at Howard and say "I can make him as good a backup as Rudolph". That leaves whatever "veteran" we bring in as the starter (i.e. 70% Rogers, 20% Cousins, 10% Rudolph) and whatever new face from the draft is in the QB room.

It's just a competition at this point and I don't think McCarthy truly has any favorites (except for the guy he drafts).

I just don't want to FORCE a QB in this draft. Drafting Simpson at #21 sounds like "forcing" the pick. Drafting Beck, Nussmeier or Allar in round 2 sound like "forcing" the pick. Picking Allar, Payton or Green in round 3 sounds like "forcing" it as well (although with 3 picks in this round, a pick here for a guy they like is probably okay).

As long as they don't do that (and the picks they do bring in make sense)... I am 100% on board with this off-season.

I don't think this team is ready to really make anything of importance happen in the 2026 season. They need to fix all the issues Tomlin has left in place first. They need to establish the new "McCarthy Way" and likely clean out some bad apples that still are so devoted to Tomlin or the old coaches that they don't realize how toxic his view was. That's going to take ALL of 2026 to do in my opinion.

This is separating the wheat from the chaff season. Mini camps are going to matter. Cuts later in the off-season might happen during this process. Even decisions to extend guys might be put on hold for a while until this new coaching staff sees them in practice.

Patience is a virtue this off-season more than most. And I am fine seeing them slow play their decision making process while we figure out how to rebuild this franchise correctly (because I think the stink from Tomlin/Colbert still lingers a lot over this organization).

 

[WindyCitySteel]

I don't think this team is ready to really make anything of importance happen in the 2026 season. They need to fix all the issues Tomlin has left in place first. They need to establish the new "McCarthy Way" and likely clean out some bad apples that still are so devoted to Tomlin or the old coaches that they don't realize how toxic his view was. That's going to take ALL of 2026 to do in my opinion.

Agreed, which is why the Dean and Pittman signings don't make a ton of sense to me. They're not going to have their future franchise QB for a couple years if they draft one and sit him in 2027, those two guys will be in their 30's by then.

 

[insaniti]

Nuss has Steelers ties and wont cost what Simpson would to take a chance on.

Prefer the 4th round if they dip into the pool but wouldn’t be upset if they took one with one of their 3-third rounders.

But I prefer WR, FS, and G to be addressed before hand..

Nuss only met with the steelers at the combine, along with Allar, and Ty. They also had meetings with Beck and Payton, who are the only two they brought to Pittsburgh for visits. Get ready for Beck, that is who I would put money on.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Nuss only met with the steelers at the combine, along with Allar, and Ty. They also had meetings with Beck and Payton, who are the only two they brought to Pittsburgh for visits. Get ready for Beck, that is who I would put money on.

That would be my luck, Beck following my fandom to the pros…he’s that tick I just can’t shake

I feel he is definitely on the short list of probables
To be drafted

 

[Steelmann]

Agreed, which is why the Dean and Pittman signings don't make a ton of sense to me

I hear what you’re saying Windy. But,they do have to put a product on the field. They do owe it to the fans to make an effort. We’ve been screaming for another legit WR for years. I’ve and many others also said for quite some time we need to draft a top shelf prospect WR. That 5 year contract is huge for a WR……as it is for a QB. Yes Dean a Pittman guys will be gone by the time we make our next serious run. But I had no problem with there addition. We could be still years away for our next young decent QB. We should have taken a chance on Dart.

 

[Steel Maniac]

I hear what you’re saying Windy. But,they do have to put a product on the field. They do owe it to the fans to make an effort. We’ve been screaming for another legit WR for years. I’ve and many others also said for quite some time we need to draft a top shelf prospect WR. That 5 year contract is huge for a WR……as it is for a QB. Yes Dean a Pittman guys will be gone by the time we make our next serious run. But I had no problem with there addition. We could be still years away for our next young decent QB. We should have taken a chance on Dart.

Yep. Dart is the one that got away. Because Tomlin was too busy living in his fears. You can't stop trying just because you've struck out before. Everybody wants a young franchise
QB but if you don't try to get one, you'll never get one. Like the lottery, you can't hope to win at it if you don't play.

 

[Steel Maniac]

QB is the one position that experts still have a lot of grey areas on as far as telling who will and wont pan out. With that said, we should be ready to take a swing at it again this year in the third round.

 

[Drink IRON City]

That would be my luck, Beck following my fandom to the pros…he’s that tick I just can’t shake

I feel he is definitely on the short list of probables
To be drafted

If get a chance, bring me up to speed on this QB. Don’t know much or have heard much about him.

Thanks in advance Amigo.!



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[slashsteel]

Nuss only met with the steelers at the combine, along with Allar, and Ty. They also had meetings with Beck and Payton, who are the only two they brought to Pittsburgh for visits. Get ready for Beck, that is who I would put money on.

Because it is a hot topic lately (hand size)

Carson Beck Miami (FL) 10


Drew Allar Penn State 9 7/8


Jalon Daniels Kansas 9 5/8


Diego Pavia Vanderbilt 9 5/8


Fernando Mendoza Indiana 9 1/2


Behren Morton Texas Tech 9 1/2


Ty Simpson Alabama 9 3/8


Sawyer Robertson Baylor 9 3/8


Cade Klubnik Clemson 9 1/4


Garrett Nussmeier LSU 9 1/8


Luke Altmyer Illinois 9

Mike did mention hand size today…

 

[SteelerFan448]

Because it is a hot topic lately (hand size)

Carson Beck Miami (FL) 10


Drew Allar Penn State 9 7/8


Jalon Daniels Kansas 9 5/8


Diego Pavia Vanderbilt 9 5/8


Fernando Mendoza Indiana 9 1/2


Behren Morton Texas Tech 9 1/2


Ty Simpson Alabama 9 3/8


Sawyer Robertson Baylor 9 3/8


Cade Klubnik Clemson 9 1/4


Garrett Nussmeier LSU 9 1/8


Luke Altmyer Illinois 9

Mike did mention hand size today…

If McCarthy actually tipped his hand, it sounds like the Steelers may want to use one of the 3rd rounders on a QB. He also mentioned about playing in the cold weather, so that also probably means a big-armed QB.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Yep. Dart is the one that got away. Because Tomlin was too busy living in his fears. You can't stop trying just because you've struck out before. Everybody wants a young franchise
QB but if you don't try to get one, you'll never get one. Like the lottery, you can't hope to win at it if you don't play.

You could also say Beta Rooney was too busy living in his fears.

He stopped trying to solve the QB issue when he handed that last extension to Mike.

Anyone with eyeballs can tell that Mike is not a QB developer and his system actually stunts them.

I 100% wanted Dart when he fell in their laps.
I was also hoping that HC that could actually develop players/specifically QBs was in place to allow the pick to happen…

The timing was all off sending us into QB purgatory with the Beta Rooney-Mediocre Mike marriage.

GHD has passed, hopefully, and an actual QB developer has entered the staff…maybe this franchise can pull its head out of its *** and finally adopt an offense that resembles the modernity of today’s NFL.

The missing ingredient is still that ball of clay.

Time to fill the void one way or another.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

If get a chance, bring me up to speed on this QB. Don’t know much or have heard much about him.

Thanks in advance Amigo.!



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He reminds me of a paler/weaker version of Ben in many ways…

He’s got an arm and arm talent, no denying that. Kid was a multi sport athlete and can sling the ball.
That’s a plus…being a highly recruited pitcher/1st baseman as well as QB. When he is accurate it’s beautiful, he can be a surgeon dissecting the entire field with solid reads and putting the ball in tight windows…it’s when he’s having an off game though, those look pretty brutal.

The mental side reminds of Ben in some ways for sure. He’s inconsistent. Remember those bad Ben games where it looked like for whatever reason his accuracy was inexplicably just not there. Carson has those same wart filled games pop up and it’s hard to put your finger on why…reminded me of Ben a lot in the inconsistency side. His picks can seem to come in bunches when he’s flustered/forcing it.

He is athletic enough as far as mobility and moving within the pocket. His straight line speed is actually excellent for a QB which becomes evident when he scrambles. He’s not super shifty, but he can definitely move. He’s a 4.5s 40 guy which compared to ole man Rodgers looks like white lightning.

Generally says the right thing in pressers and always gives credit to his teammates in victory and takes the blame in MOST losses (where he isn’t critical of the coaching/gameplan)….reminds me of someone a bit. At UGA I never heard him criticize the coaching, but after he left the best college program and went to MIA those issues surfaced with that squad. He was also questioned as a “sore loser” for not shaking hands with Mendoza after the natty loss. I don’t look too much into that…was he supposed to feel good about that loss? Sportsmanship is an admirable trait too though, shows a certain mental fortitude to be able to congratulate an opponent in your own defeat.

He’s got the size you want and traits.

Is the mental aspect there to be a champion?
Huge question mark there as the only nattys he has won were in holding the QB2 spot as he stood in Stetson Bennett’s 5’10 shadow.

Steeler fans will likely hate his flashy cars and the fact that he frequently has a deer in headlights look and always looks like the meth head hanging out down at the trailer park. Is NOT a blue collar, pickup guy.

Is he better than Mason? Should be rather quickly with decent coaching. The ceiling is much higher imo.

Is he better than Howard? Wish I knew this answer but we have zero clue what Howard is. I’d definitely be happier having Beck and Howard fighting for the job than Rodgers entrenched as starter or allowing Rudy to sniff the field…that is for sure.

To me he seems like 2nd-3rd round talent, would be first round talent if the mental aspect/inconsistency wasn’t so prevalent.

 

[Drink IRON City]

He reminds me of a paler/weaker version of Ben in many ways…

He’s got an arm and arm talent, no denying that. Kid was a multi sport athlete and can sling the ball.
That’s a plus…being a highly recruited pitcher/1st baseman as well as QB. When he is accurate it’s beautiful, he can be a surgeon dissecting the entire field with solid reads and putting the ball in tight windows…it’s when he’s having an off game though, those look pretty brutal.

The mental side reminds of Ben in some ways for sure. He’s inconsistent. Remember those bad Ben games where it looked like for whatever reason his accuracy was inexplicably just not there. Carson has those same wart filled games pop up and it’s hard to put your finger on why…reminded me of Ben a lot in the inconsistency side. His picks can seem to come in bunches when he’s flustered/forcing it.

He is athletic enough as far as mobility and moving within the pocket. His straight line speed is actually excellent for a QB which becomes evident when he scrambles. He’s not super shifty, but he can definitely move. He’s a 4.5s 40 guy which compared to ole man Rodgers looks like white lightning.

Generally says the right thing in pressers and always gives credit to his teammates in victory and takes the blame in MOST losses (where he isn’t critical of the coaching/gameplan)….reminds me of someone a bit. At UGA I never heard him criticize the coaching, but after he left the best college program and went to MIA those issues surfaced with that squad. He was also questioned as a “sore loser” for not shaking hands with Mendoza after the natty loss. I don’t look too much into that…was he supposed to feel good about that loss? Sportsmanship is an admirable trait too though, shows a certain mental fortitude to be able to congratulate an opponent in your own defeat.

He’s got the size you want and traits.

Is the mental aspect there to be a champion?
Huge question mark there as the only nattys he has won were in holding the QB2 spot as he stood in Stetson Bennett’s 5’10 shadow.

Steeler fans will likely hate his flashy cars and the fact that he frequently has a deer in headlights look and always looks like the meth head hanging out down at the trailer park. Is NOT a blue collar, pickup guy.

Is he better than Mason? Should be rather quickly with decent coaching. The ceiling is much higher imo.

Is he better than Howard? Wish I knew this answer but we have zero clue what Howard is. I’d definitely be happier having Beck and Howard fighting for the job than Rodgers entrenched as starter or allowing Rudy to sniff the field…that is for sure.

To me he seems like 2nd-3rd round talent, would be first round talent if the mental aspect/inconsistency wasn’t so prevalent.

Thank You Fiji, appreciate you and all your great post(s) along the way.

I’m on board on the no Rodgers but I’m pretty sure we will have to live with him another season or minimal part season.

Would be nice to keep bringing in these QBs to hopefully come out with a gem.

Can’t move forword without some sort of risk involved.

McCarthy is perceived as a QB developer Coach, bring this kid in and work with him (howard too) to become NFL capable.

End the geriatric role, move forward with at least some ceiling expectations instead of go no-where non-losing season.



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[Chadman]

That hand size conversation was interesting.

Makes sense that Beck & Payton are the 2 QB's brought in as a result.

Beck looks like the most 'ready' to play QB of the class outside Mendoza.

I don't think it hurts bringing a guy like Beck in, even if he only ever gets to #2. It doesn't hamper Howard too much & it doesn't stop you picking a QB next season as well. It just adds a quality option to the mix that might just be the guy.

 

[Badcat]

Because it is a hot topic lately (hand size)

Carson Beck Miami (FL) 10


Drew Allar Penn State 9 7/8


Jalon Daniels Kansas 9 5/8


Diego Pavia Vanderbilt 9 5/8


Fernando Mendoza Indiana 9 1/2


Behren Morton Texas Tech 9 1/2


Ty Simpson Alabama 9 3/8


Sawyer Robertson Baylor 9 3/8


Cade Klubnik Clemson 9 1/4


Garrett Nussmeier LSU 9 1/8


Luke Altmyer Illinois 9

Mike did mention hand size today…

Ben had 9.85" hands while Kenny "Jr Whopper" Pickett had 8.5". NFL scouts look for 9.5 or higher to handle NFL footballs and slightly larger for inclimate weather bound teams like the Steelers. Hand size doesn't guarantee success as Jim Druckenmiller had the largest hands at 11.25" and Joe Burrow has 9" hands.

 

[slashsteel]

Ben had 9.85" hands while Kenny "Jr Whopper" Pickett had 8.5". NFL scouts look for 9.5 or higher to handle NFL footballs and slightly larger for inclimate weather bound teams like the Steelers. Hand size doesn't guarantee success as Jim Druckenmiller had the largest hands at 11.25" and Joe Burrow has 9" hands.

Exactly I think more of an alarm if it is too small than draft because of…