"Najee Harris ain't it". NAJEE 3.0 It's time to go, yo....

[Coryea]

Bell was a way better player than Najee was. Najee was extremely durable, no doubt, but just watching the two play, Bell was better runner and pass catcher, I don't like Bell, ****** teammate and now what's coming out sounds like a ****** person, but as for just the player part, he was easily better than Najee.

 

[Litos]

Projects. Not actual. I think a few posters on hear do not get how hard it is for a RB to go an entire season without missing time. Let alone 4 years in a row

don't disagree but probably the best moment to part ways, the odds are stacked against him staying healthy after all that usage and getting hit behind the LOS constantly because scheme and OL sucked most of the time. If not for his endurance he's just an above average RB that couldn't move the pile on 3rd & short despite being a heavy back.

 

[Steeler Pride]

Bell was a way better player than Najee was. Najee was extremely durable, no doubt, but just watching the two play, Bell was better runner and pass catcher, I don't like Bell, ****** teammate and now what's coming out sounds like a ****** person, but as for just the player part, he was easily better than Najee.

Bell had the very unique ability to sit in the pocket and wait for a hole to develop and then jump cut and explode thru the hole. His first 3 steps were incredible to watch his acceleration. That is a very unique talent.

 

[bigben]

Projects. Not actual. I think a few posters on hear do not get how hard it is for a RB to go an entire season without missing time. Let alone 4 years in a row

Bell averaged 129 scrimmage yards per game for his entire career as a Steeler. Highest in NFL History
Actual stats
3.9 career
Actual stats
Just give it a rest son

 

[Coryea]

Bell had the very unique ability to sit in the pocket and wait for a hole to develop and then jump cut and explode thru the hole. His first 3 steps were incredible to watch his acceleration. That is a very unique talent.

There isn't one GM in the league that would take Najee over Bell.

 

[Ye Black Knight]

People are trying to favorably compare Najee with Bell??? Hahaha. Thanks for the chuckle.

 

[jitter77]

Bell had the very unique ability to sit in the pocket and wait for a hole to develop and then jump cut and explode thru the hole. His first 3 steps were incredible to watch his acceleration. That is a very unique talent.

This is true, but you need the team to do that. Bell would not be able to sit and wait with our current offensive scheme. Guys are in the back field immediately alot of plays and just plain outnumbered up front. His unique talent sure didn't translate after leaving here.

 

[stillwright]

People are trying to favorably compare Najee with Bell??? Hahaha. Thanks for the chuckle.

No. I think people compared Bell to Harris to justify that Harris sucked. People are just defending Harris is all. To think Bell would do what he did in this offense with this OL......is laughable. Now his stats very could/would be better. I myself think Bell was the better back.

 

[BLITZ]

No. I think people compared Bell to Harris to justify that Harris sucked. People are just defending Harris is all. To think Bell would do what he did in this offense with this OL......is laughable. Now his stats very could/would be better. I myself think Bell was the better back.

100% agree

 

[stillwright]

100% agree

I also thought it was humorous when a few on here during the season were comparing Harris to Barkley and Henry to justify how bad Harris was.

 

[BLITZ]

I also thought it was humorous when a few on here during the season were comparing Harris to Barkley and Henry to justify how bad Harris was.

Yep. He sucks because he is not Barkley. Makes sense.

 

[jitter77]

My main point was if Bell was drafted when Harris was drafted we would be talking about what a bust or waste of a second round pick bell was.

 

[SteelerFan448]

My main point was if Bell was drafted when Harris was drafted we would be talking about what a bust or waste of a second round pick bell was.

Bell wasn't good his first year and transformed his body and running style entering year two and became one of the best backs in the league. He had the chance to settle and be a bust, but didn't and got to be great.

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

but he never did. as great as he was he could never do what Najee did. but lets ***** at Najee

Bell's first four years 908 carries.
Harris' first four years 1,097 carries.

Of course Bell wasn't going to get as many yards if he has 17% less carries.

 

[NorthernBlitz]

Najee was all around average to above-average at everything. I think he would have been a great back in the 90s.

But it's not the 90s anymore. The elite backs are the guys who break the game open. And while Najee was very consistently good and has elite durability, he's not a game breaker.

In almost 1100 carries, he never had a run of more than 37 yards. For context, in Jerome Bettis' last year (33 "fat" Jerome), he had 110 carries and a long of 39...something Najee has never done in his prime.

In 68 starts, he has 9 100 yard games (106, 102, 114)...so never a game with 115 yards (at least that's Google's AI answer).

I think Najee can be a good piece on a team that has other playmakers. But we have been a team with few playmakers that was trying to be successful with a run-based offense. Teams that have had good success with that model in the current NFL all had big strong backs (Najee is this) who could also break 70 yard TD runs (Najee is not this).

I think Najee is probably better than Warren. But not by a lot. Najee's a good RB to have. But not a good RB to give a 2nd contract to.

Another "meh" 1st round pick.

I think Jones will keep the streak of not getting a 5th year option alive.

Hopefully that ends with TF. But who knows...

We need to draft better. Especially with premium picks.

 

[insaniti]

Bell's first four years 908 carries.
Harris' first four years 1,097 carries.

Of course Bell wasn't going to get as many yards if he has 17% less carries.

Now add in receptions, and I bet the touches are pretty close.

 

[Lloyd]

don't disagree but probably the best moment to part ways, the odds are stacked against him staying healthy after all that usage and getting hit behind the LOS constantly because scheme and OL sucked most of the time. If not for his endurance he's just an above average RB that couldn't move the pile on 3rd & short despite being a heavy back.

It's because he's slow: slow in deciding where to run, slow in running there, slow in changing direction, just slow. He didn't hide his 40 time for nothing, his group knew it would bring down his draft spot and they were right, it should have, but old Art didn't listen to any of his team. Najee was just slow in all aspects. You don't run a career 3.9 ypc because you're a blazer. Art was wrong about Najee.

 

[steelhurt]

Najee’s greatest attribute here was availability. He never got hurt was extremely durable and displayed good ball security.
The guy displayed zero burst and explosiveness, and was more of a prodder averaging 3.9 ypc while here.
Never, ever liked the pick where they drafted him and thought there were far more superior players they could have taken.
The draft is so critical to building a team’s success and the Steelers have failed miserably.
Take a look back at the last 10 years starting at 2015. Other than TJ a lot of misses. Broderick and Troy may still work out. I hope so!

 

[Lloyd]

Najee was all around average to above-average at everything. I think he would have been a great back in the 90s.

But it's not the 90s anymore. The elite backs are the guys who break the game open. And while Najee was very consistently good and has elite durability, he's not a game breaker.

In almost 1100 carries, he never had a run of more than 37 yards. For context, in Jerome Bettis' last year (33 "fat" Jerome), he had 110 carries and a long of 39...something Najee has never done in his prime.

In 68 starts, he has 9 100 yard games (106, 102, 114)...so never a game with 115 yards (at least that's Google's AI answer).

I think Najee can be a good piece on a team that has other playmakers. But we have been a team with few playmakers that was trying to be successful with a run-based offense. Teams that have had good success with that model in the current NFL all had big strong backs (Najee is this) who could also break 70 yard TD runs (Najee is not this).

I think Najee is probably better than Warren. But not by a lot. Najee's a good RB to have. But not a good RB to give a 2nd contract to.

Another "meh" 1st round pick.

I think Jones will keep the streak of not getting a 5th year option alive.

Hopefully that ends with TF. But who knows...

We need to draft better. Especially with premium picks.

Especially in the 1st round. And with Tomlin. Only Watt has been special, the rest merely acceptable or busts.

- Timmons - I like him more than most.
- Mendenhall - Stop, start, spin and fall. Not worth a 1st round pick. Always a burst away from a big play.
- Hood - a wasted pick.
- Pouncey - acceptable, barely. Took a while to produce, weak at the point of attack.
- Heyward - the 1st truly acceptable 1st rounder under Clown-lin.
- DeCastro - OK
- Jarvis Jones - terrible pick.
- Shazier - got hurt.
- Dupree - overrated, but not a bust.
- Burns - Bust.
- Watt - true star, finally
- Edmunds - taken way too early, 3rd rounder at best.
- Bush - bust of all busts.
- Claypool (2nd pick of their draft) - Major disappointment after quick start.
- Najee - not what they were looking for, Art screws up the pick, again.
- Pickett - set us back 5 years.
- Jones - playing out of position, Clown-lin's specialty.
- Fautanu - Hurt.

Way too many bust picks or non-special players. The greatness of Steeler draft picks a thing of the past.

 

[bigben]

Now add in receptions, and I bet the touches are pretty close.

Career stats (reg+post season)

Najee Harris
71 games 5599 yards, 268 1st downs, 34 TD, 6 fumbles
78 yards per game average

Leveon Bell
66 Games 8511 yards, 447 1st down, 46 TD 8 fumbles
129 yards per game avg

In 5 fewer games Bell gained 2912 More yards than Najee
Averaging yd/g for an equal amount of starts (71) Bell would have outgained Harris by 3557 yards
3557 is nearly as many yards Harris has had in the past 3 seasons

Its laughable to even make the comparison

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

Especially in the 1st round. And with Tomlin. Only Watt has been special, the rest merely acceptable or busts.

- Timmons - I like him more than most.
- Mendenhall - Stop, start, spin and fall. Not worth a 1st round pick. Always a burst away from a big play.
- Hood - a wasted pick.
- Pouncey - acceptable, barely. Took a while to produce, weak at the point of attack.
- Heyward - the 1st truly acceptable 1st rounder under Clown-lin.
- DeCastro - OK
- Jarvis Jones - terrible pick.
- Shazier - got hurt.
- Dupree - overrated, but not a bust.
- Burns - Bust.
- Watt - true star, finally
- Edmunds - taken way too early, 3rd rounder at best.
- Bush - bust of all busts.
- Claypool (2nd pick of their draft) - Major disappointment after quick start.
- Najee - not what they were looking for, Art screws up the pick, again.
- Pickett - set us back 5 years.
- Jones - playing out of position, Clown-lin's specialty.
- Fautanu - Hurt.

Way too many bust picks or non-special players. The greatness of Steeler draft picks a thing of the past.

Pouncey barely acceptable and took a while to produce? In his rookie season he was second team All Pro and the upgrade of the centre position was a major factor in the Steelers making the 2010 Super Bowl and he was a First Team All Pro his second year. I'm not sure how that's taking a while to produce, especially when you don't make the same comment about Heyward who was a backup for his first two years and entered his third year as a backup. And don't take this as me knocking Heyward as he has been a great player for the Steelers and in his early years had some great players (Aaron Smith and Brett Kiesel) in front of him on the depth chart.

 

[Hypocycloids]

My main point was if Bell was drafted when Harris was drafted we would be talking about what a bust or waste of a second round pick bell was.

Let Bell try to use his signature stutter step now. Lol
Having to face the opposing D blowing past our O line like Najee often did and there ain’t gonna be no stutter stepping goin on. Lol

 

[bermudasteel]

Bell was a way better player than Najee was. Najee was extremely durable, no doubt, but just watching the two play, Bell was better runner and pass catcher, I don't like Bell, ****** teammate and now what's coming out sounds like a ****** person, but as for just the player part, he was easily better than Najee.

Bruh, your soccer shorts are on too tight...

Bell and Harris are TWO VERY DIFFERENT types of RBs. You cannot compare them like for like...

 

[steelhurt]

Especially in the 1st round. And with Tomlin. Only Watt has been special, the rest merely acceptable or busts.

- Timmons - I like him more than most.
- Mendenhall - Stop, start, spin and fall. Not worth a 1st round pick. Always a burst away from a big play.
- Hood - a wasted pick.
- Pouncey - acceptable, barely. Took a while to produce, weak at the point of attack.
- Heyward - the 1st truly acceptable 1st rounder under Clown-lin.
- DeCastro - OK
- Jarvis Jones - terrible pick.
- Shazier - got hurt.
- Dupree - overrated, but not a bust.
- Burns - Bust.
- Watt - true star, finally
- Edmunds - taken way too early, 3rd rounder at best.
- Bush - bust of all busts.
- Claypool (2nd pick of their draft) - Major disappointment after quick start.
- Najee - not what they were looking for, Art screws up the pick, again.
- Pickett - set us back 5 years.
- Jones - playing out of position, Clown-lin's specialty.
- Fautanu - Hurt.

Way too many bust picks or non-special players. The greatness of Steeler draft picks a thing of the past.

Now I agree with most of these but some you have to be joking.
Pouncey was a very good pick and played at a high level.
David DeCastro was a very good pick and played at a high level.
Shazier was excellent but unfortunately had a horrible injury.
These three I can’t agree with ya on.

 

[Hypocycloids]

It's because he's slow: slow in deciding where to run, slow in running there, slow in changing direction, just slow. He didn't hide his 40 time for nothing, his group knew it would bring down his draft spot and they were right, it should have, but old Art didn't listen to any of his team. Najee was just slow in all aspects. You don't run a career 3.9 40 because you're a blazer. Art was wrong about Najee.

You’re slow.
Right away you make the assumption Najee was hiding his 40 time. He was recovering from an ankle injury you clown.
At Bama his 40 times were all over the place according to the internetz from 4.45 to 4.66.
Bell ran a 4.60.
On a treadmill Najee was electronically timed running 22mph. Which calculates to 4.3 something, which is hard to believe. But there’s a video of it.
The dude ain’t slow.