• Please be aware we've switched the forums to their own URL. (again) You'll find the new website address to be www.steelernationforum.com Thanks
  • Please clear your private messages. Your inbox is close to being full.

What have Kahn (and Colbert last few years) got us?

insaniti said:
4. Our #2 is DK. You don't like our WR1, but he's still our WR1 and the coaches like him, Khan likes him, and his teammates like him. After that we have Austin, Wilson, and they brought back Skowronek and Miller. That's 6 WR on the roster. Guess what? No need to reach.

5. DL - This is where we as fans want the pick to be. But the numbers again support the fact that they don't need to reach for a player and have bodies to fill the holes. Logan Lee missed last year, he's back. You still have Heyward, Loudermilk, Adams, Lowry and Benton as well. And they signed Ekuale and Otomewo. That's 8... what's the theme? No need to reach.
Click to expand...

So much wrong with this post but I only have a few minutes left on lunch, DK is the clear #1, DL is either very old or backup level roster fillers. They need to come out of the draft with 2 IDL.

Their biggest needs are DL, QB, and RB, they will pick all three positions, even if BPA is an EDGE, WR, or CB. BPA is a fantasy, it never works that way, they always pick for need.

Also, you clearly fail to recognize that the draft is not just for the 2025 season, as are some of the FA signees. They’ve papered over a few holes but will draft the same position if they like they prospect.
 
insaniti said:
What is Khan thinking? Well he's thinking that they have players in roles that they are comfortable enough in that they don't need to REACH for a player based on a need. So in that sense, they don't NEED any ONE player. REACHING is how you end up with Pickett in the first round. And Khan so far, has done a very good job of not reaching for need.

As for your "evaluations"

1. QB - All signs point to Rodgers, and they will most likely draft A QB, but not necessarily any specific one in any specific round. They've talked to Dart, Milroe, Shough, Ewers, and Howard. Any number of those guys could go anywhere from the first to the fifth round. So no need to reach, they know who they like it what round they like them in.

2. OT- Well, they've spent the last two drafts on OT in the first round. They signed a couple, and have Ryan Anderson as the swing back up. All the spots are technically filled, again, no need to reach. As for your assessment on Jones, it's wrong. The player that couldn't hold of Moore? Not what happened at all. In fact, it was stated by more than one coach that Moore CAN'T PLAY RT!! Jones could. If Jones couldn't hold off Moore, as you put it, they wouldn't have let Moore go in FA and stated that Jones is the LT going forward.

3. RB - Again, no spot in the roster for one, they've looked at everyone from Jeanty to Blue, first rounders to seventh rounders. With all the spots filled (Paterson is still rostered), again no need to reach.

4. Our #2 is DK. You don't like our WR1, but he's still our WR1 and the coaches like him, Khan likes him, and his teammates like him. After that we have Austin, Wilson, and they brought back Skowronek and Miller. That's 6 WR on the roster. Guess what? No need to reach.

5. DL - This is where we as fans want the pick to be. But the numbers again support the fact that they don't need to reach for a player and have bodies to fill the holes. Logan Lee missed last year, he's back. You still have Heyward, Loudermilk, Adams, Lowry and Benton as well. And they signed Ekuale and Otomewo. That's 8... what's the theme? No need to reach.

6. CB - what's the plan? Porter and Slay start, Echols at nickel, Trice the main back up and dime. They resigned Pierre as depth, and don't forget Bishop. That's 6.

7. S - not sure what you're trying to get at here. They lost Kazee and replaced him with Thornhill. They have Minkah, Elliot, and Killebrew. How many do you want?


Do you see the theme here? No reaching. They filled the holes, they can go BPA. That's what Khan is saying. Not that we can't UPGRADE positions, that is the whole reason to even have a draft to begin with. But that they aren't going into the draft with a massive NEED. It's really a simple concept.
Click to expand...
Lloyd does not understand logic, which what your post is full of…
 
WindyCitySteel said:
So much wrong with this post but I only have a few minutes left on lunch, DK is the clear #1, DL is either very old or backup level roster fillers. They need to come out of the draft with 2 IDL.

Their biggest needs are DL, QB, and RB, they will pick all three positions, even if BPA is an EDGE, WR, or CB. BPA is a fantasy, it never works that way, they always pick for need.

Also, you clearly fail to recognize that the draft is not just for the 2025 season, as are some of the FA signees. They’ve papered over a few holes but will draft the same position if they like they prospect.
Click to expand...
Wrong…
 
So, Lloyd doesn't like Kahn. We get it. The facts are that his 1st two drafts are still being evaluated, but both appear to be good to very good. And, Tomlin has more say into who is drafted than most seem to realize. As much as that pains me to say, as I think Tomlin is stale, and we need a new coach
 
Badcat said:
This is so sad. Please allow me to explain what Khan actually said.

"We don't need any one player in the draft" = We aren't looking to draft one particular player​

Click to expand...
Comprehension isn’t his strong suit.
 
CoolieMan said:
his quote makes perfect sense

your response to it is absurd. he did not imply that the steelers don't have needs to fill in the draft just that there is not a specific player they need to try and go get

********
Click to expand...
Hey, I was gonna say that.
You always get to say the good stuff.
 
TDX27 said:
So, Lloyd doesn't like Kahn. We get it. The facts are that his 1st two drafts are still being evaluated, but both appear to be good to very good. And, Tomlin has more say into who is drafted than most seem to realize. As much as that pains me to say, as I think Tomlin is stale, and we need a new coach
Click to expand...
I don't dislike Kahn, I don't even know the man. You people have to stop taking things so personally just because someone disapproves of another's results. The Steelers love to keep the jobs hidden from fans so they have no one to blame, they do this constantly. If you DO like the job Kahn's doing so far as GM for the Steelers, you must not be following the team closely. True, the end stories are not known, but do you feel is non-moves ar WT were good in 2024? The drafting of Jones, Fautanu, Roman Wilson, the handling of the OL, DL, WR, QB has worked out so far? I don't like how this team is being managed; that much is true. If the personnel move are to be more blamed on Clown-lin then all the more reason to fire his @ss. The team is proving to be incompetent in managing players. We have no one at starting QB or running back for '25, no one.
 
Lloyd said:
You don't see a lie when you are given one? If Pickens is traded they will go WR early. RB will be within 2 rounds. DL will be early.
Click to expand...
We get it.
You like throwing red meat at the lions.
You like chumming the waters for shark.
The problem?
You're in outer space where there's no sharks and no lions.
Go rage bait somewhere else.
Your schtick is tired.
If you're too dense to see a politicking answer when you're given one, you should try arguing with the other retard that ignores common sense and logic and wishes they were Andy Kauffman, too.
Good grief, people.
 
WindyCitySteel said:
So much wrong with this post but I only have a few minutes left on lunch, DK is the clear #1, DL is either very old or backup level roster fillers. They need to come out of the draft with 2 IDL.

Their biggest needs are DL, QB, and RB, they will pick all three positions, even if BPA is an EDGE, WR, or CB. BPA is a fantasy, it never works that way, they always pick for need.

Also, you clearly fail to recognize that the draft is not just for the 2025 season, as are some of the FA signees. They’ve papered over a few holes but will draft the same position if they like they prospect.
Click to expand...

You are still struggling with the basics of reading and comprehension. So I'll bold the part you clearly missed.


insaniti said:
Do you see the theme here? No reaching. They filled the holes, they can go BPA. That's what Khan is saying. Not that we can't UPGRADE positions, that is the whole reason to even have a draft to begin with. But that they aren't going into the draft with a massive NEED. It's really a simple concept.
Click to expand...

As for your misconception of BPA...what that means is you take the best player available in one of your weaker positions. An example, the top edge rusher and top DT are both available, you have a first round grade on both. But you have TJ, Highsmith, and Herbig already, so you take the DT. Even if the edge rusher is rated slightly higher. What you don't do is have both available and draft a QB you have a second round grade on. That's called "reaching for need".

Someone check his IP, he comes to Lloyd's defense a lot, when Lloyd won't comment back to me anymore 😂😂😂
 
fedderone said:
We get it.
You like throwing red meat at the lions.
You like chumming the waters for shark.
The problem?
You're in outer space where there's no sharks and no lions.
Go rage bait somewhere else.
Your schtick is tired.
If you're too dense to see a politicking answer when you're given one, you should try arguing with the other retard that ignores common sense and logic and wishes they were Andy Kauffman, too.
Good grief, people.
Click to expand...

:poop::poop::poop:
 
Lloyd said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news to the GM, but last I checked, we need more than ONE player in the draft, we need several. With his way of thinking, it's no wonder we are were we are with this team. What world is he living in? We not only DO need one player, we need several. Maybe he's whistling past the graveyard, but that sure isn't going to help things. This team is a mess.

Players we gosh damn DO need to be competitive or anywhere near it:

1.) QB. What's Kan thinking? That all of a sudden we aren't in need of a decent QB? What, Mason is the answer? He went, what, 1-4 last year? His completion rate dropped from 74% to 63%? But we are ALL SET with Mason as our starting QB in 2025? Kahn claimed we are not in need of any ONE player in '25, that must include QB I am guessing. If Pgh doesn't need a QB, I'm Leery of hearing what team does.

2.) OT. I'm not sure which OT is on shakier ground: the oft injured Fautanu or the player who couldn't hold off Moore - the lowly rated LT. Either way, we are far from "sound" at either position and he OL remains a hot mess. We couldn't run the ball and we couldn't pass protect, but other than that, we were fine. But Kahn sees no need to add any player to the mix.

3.) RB. We have one back up on the roster (Warren) but no proven starter who can carry the load and average more than 4 ypc. We desperately need a quality RB. But Kahn says there is no obvious need.

4.) Our #2 WR is a step away from leaving or quitting but we don't need anyone there. Pickens is about as solid as a balsa wood fence.

5.) DL. Take your pick. We need at NT or DE. Both. We have a part time DE (but listed as a DT) in Heyward, a DE playing NG in Benton and other than that a collection of misfits trying to fit in somewhere. Leal (playing part time LB), Loudermilk (no one knows what position he plays), Lee (listed as a a DT but we're not sure there either) and a bunch of "lunch pail Joes" make up the DL. That doesn't make for a sound unit.

6.) CB. Not sure what the plan is here.

7.) S.

We definitely have more than "one" need.
Click to expand...
Oh, you most definitely like being the bearer of bad news.
 
insaniti said:
You are still struggling with the basics of reading and comprehension. So I'll bold the part you clearly missed.




As for your misconception of BPA...what that means is you take the best player available in one of your weaker positions. An example, the top edge rusher and top DT are both available, you have a first round grade on both. But you have TJ, Highsmith, and Herbig already, so you take the DT. Even if the edge rusher is rated slightly higher. What you don't do is have both available and draft a QB you have a second round grade on. That's called "reaching for need".

Someone check his IP, he comes to Lloyd's defense a lot, when Lloyd won't comment back to me anymore 😂😂😂
Click to expand...

QB, RB, and DL are currently massive needs. Even if Rodgers signs, he’s a stop gap.

You realize it’s likely that they’re not drafting 4-5 day one starters, so a lot of the current stop gaps will be starters at least to begin the season, which looks to be another 9-ish win season with the current roster building strategy.

Also, you need to start calling it BPAAPON (BPA At Position Of Need). They never draft BPA or they’d have Lamar.

Unfortunately, most media types and fans confuse those concepts.
 
Lloyd said:
:poop::poop::poop:
Click to expand...


You sure have a lot of PooP in your post(s),

For being a crawl-space dweller with ONLY one outlet, I hope your budget allows for an appropriate amount of toilet paper……………



Salute the nation
 
WindyCitySteel said:
QB, RB, and DL are currently massive needs. Even if Rodgers signs, he’s a stop gap.

You realize it’s likely that they’re not drafting 4-5 day one starters, so a lot of the current stop gaps will be starters at least to begin the season, which looks to be another 9-ish win season with the current roster building strategy.

Also, you need to start calling it BPAAPON (BPA At Position Of Need). They never draft BPA or they’d have Lamar.

Unfortunately, most media types and fans confuse those concepts.
Click to expand...
OK Lloyd
 
madinsomniac said:
Offseasons suck
Click to expand...



I don’t know how pink-Lloyd and Windy survive………………….. Limited topics………………

Oh, I know now…………. Same BS over and over and over, like it’s something new…………



Salute the nation
 
Drink IRON City said:
I don’t know how pink-Lloyd and Windy survive………………….. Limited topics………………

Oh, I know now…………. Same BS over and over and over, like it’s something new…………



Salute the nation
Click to expand...
giphy.gif
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top