Game Balls, Game Goats & FU's...........week 1 @ J-E-T-S.....JETS, JETS, JETS!

[topseed]

I love how haters want to call him a terrible clock manager with ZERO examples. Sure he's not 100% perfect, but he's one of the best I've ever seen at situational football. It's why the Steelers are the top team at winning 1 score games over the past decade, and that included an aging Ben, KP, Trubisky, Duck, Rudolph, Wilson, Fields, and now Rogers. So either Tomlin is the luckiest coach ever in NFL history, or maybe, just maybe he knows what he's doing to win us close games?

You're normally a fairly reasonable poster, but this is one of the most irrational statements I think I've ever read on this site, and that's saying something.

First of all, I could go through just the 2024 season alone, and give you dozens of examples of bad clock management and poor situational decision-making. There's a couple, if not five or six, every week. Tell me, wasting that timeout after one of his own players was injured...please, oh please, explain to me how that was good clock management.

The Steelers have won a lot of one score games over the past few years because Tomlin likes to limit the chances his offense takes, and this leads to close games. It has not a damn thing to do with the guy being some sort of wizard at situational football, Sure, this philosophy has been effective for him during the regular season against the league as a whole, but clearly, as evidenced by quality teams ripping him a new asshoIe time and time again in the playoffs, the efficacy of this strategy has no lasting merit.

 

[topseed]

Maybe reading and comprehension isnt your strongsuit. I said specifically a lot of these games are going to come down to one possession games. What difference does it make what it looks like?? What part of that dont you understand??

Actually, you specifically replied to my post about Tomlin needing his kicker to win the game with a 60-yard field goal with a minute left. That's the difference, dipshlt.

Maybe reading comprehension is your problem. We already know that vocabulary isn't your strong suit -- you don't even know the difference between parity and parody.

 

[topseed]

yeah, you definitely have reading and comprehension skills. The purpose of my bringing up the San Diego rookie was to point out the fact that football IQ has to play a part in how these players react in pressure situations, and that some things should be blatantly obvious w/o having to have a coach in your ear to tell you about it beforehand.

That being said if he wasnt assigned that either means they thought the bootleg would go away from Watt or somebody blew their assignment on his side of the ball, otherwise maybe you can fill us in on what the defensive play call was and who was responsible for who??

Comparing a rookie mistakenly running out of bounds in his very first NFL game to a 9-year veteran and former defensive player of the year supposedly intentionally ignoring an imaginary assignment to the QB in a goal line situation is simply asinine. And whatever the defensive play call was, it didn't involve Watt containing the edge, which it clearly should have.

BTW, San Diego hasn't had an NFL franchise for almost ten years, brainiac.

 

[Confluence]

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[NoKap#7]

Actually, you specifically replied to my post about Tomlin needing his kicker to win the game with a 60-yard field goal with a minute left. That's the difference, dipshlt.

Maybe reading comprehension is your problem. We already know that vocabulary isn't your strong suit -- you don't even know the difference between parity and parody.

Last I checked field goals are a part of the game moron so what does it matter if the kick was from 20 yards or 60 yards??? To point out that it was from 60 yards is just being petty and nitpicky because apparently you dont have enough to ***** about.

 

[Djfan]

OUCH!!

 

[NoKap#7]

Comparing a rookie mistakenly running out of bounds in his very first NFL game to a 9-year veteran and former defensive player of the year supposedly intentionally ignoring an imaginary assignment to the QB in a goal line situation is simply asinine. And whatever the defensive play call was, it didn't involve Watt containing the edge, which it clearly should have.

BTW, San Diego hasn't had an NFL franchise for almost ten years, brainiac.

You still havent told us what the defensive play call was and who was assigned to who?

 

[topseed]

Last I checked field goals are a part of the game moron so what does it matter if the kick was from 20 yards or 60 yards??? To point out that it was from 60 yards is just being petty and nitpicky because apparently you dont have enough to ***** about.

Ummm...the likelihood of a 60-yard field goal being successful (and giving your beloved MT another close regular season win) is a whole lot less than a 20 yarder would be...but I wouldn't expect you to understand probability and statistics, either.

 

[NoKap#7]

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Bytch you just mad because you got caught up upvoting a comment that made you and everybody who agreed with it look dumb ssa hell.

 

[NoKap#7]

Ummm...the likelihood of a 60-yard field goal being successful (and giving your beloved MT another close regular season win) is a whole lot less than a 20 yarder would be...but I wouldn't expect you to understand probability and statistics, either.

Right because according to most that observed it Boz could have made it from 70...by the way the Browns kicker would like to have a chat with you

 

[topseed]

You still havent told us what the defensive play call was and who was assigned to who?

The San Diego Chicken instructed Fred Dean to jump on the pile in the middle after the runner without the ball was already stopped.

 

[topseed]

Right because according to most that observed it Boz could have made it from 70...by the way the Browns kicker would like to have a chat with you

Yep. Complete lack of understanding. Carry on.

 

[NoKap#7]

Yep. Complete lack of understanding. Carry on.

No I just showed you how ridiculously lame you look with carrying on how they won the game. They were given nothing. They earned every bit of that win. Take your murmuring and complaining *** over to the Browns fan page and ***** there since you got an issue with fgs winning a game.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

1) watt may not have been assigned to Fields on that play. It may have been a blown assignment by a LB for all you know.

2) There's something that needs to be said about player IQ. I was watching the Chargers/Chiefs play the other night and the Chargers are trying to run out the clock with less than 2 minutes left in the game. The rb gets the ball and runs it out of bounds and im thinking to myself from the comfort of my couch who has never played a day of organized football in my life "why in the world would he run out of bounds???". Tell me, why would a coach have to tell you that???

The same can be said about Watt in this situation. Let's assume he was assigned to Fields...where does his football IQ kick in to not allow a running QB to roll to the edge on a bootleg?

Why would we assume that?

If Watt is tasked with an asinine assignment by a mediocre coach trying to display his football prowess Watt’s football IQ matters not…Watt fulfills his assignment.

If you need say 10-20 examples just cue back up that Rats playoff game. He doesn’t just freelance on the edge of the D, he completes his assignment to the best of his ability.

Questioning his IQ when the coach puts him in position to fail is as asinine as the coach’s idiotic assignment he hands Watt. Stupid, dumb Watt should just use his IQ and rush from different spots too if he’s getting chipped/doubled too much

There are definitely dumb players that lack football IQ, there are also dumb head coaches that lack football IQ…been watching one for going on two decades.

 

[NoKap#7]

Why would we assume that?

If Watt is tasked with an asinine assignment by a mediocre coach trying to display his football prowess Watt’s football IQ matters not…Watt fulfills his assignment.

If you need say 10-20 examples just cue back up that Rats playoff game. He doesn’t just freelance on the edge of the D, he completes his assignment to the best of his ability.

Questioning his IQ when the coach puts him in position to fail is as asinine as the coach’s idiotic assignment he hands Watt. Stupid, dumb Watt should just use his IQ and rush from different spots too if he’s getting chipped/doubled too much

There are definitely dumb players that lack football IQ, there are also dumb head coaches that lack football IQ…been watching one for going on two decades.

You could have read my comment #50 before responding, but like I said im hoping they ask him about it today.

That being said i did find this clip on YouTube that had all of Fields plays. At the 1: 50 mark there is another naked bootleg...it looks like its starting off to the left as a handoff. Fields keeps it and rolls back right....Watt is too far inside to react as though he is convinced its going to continue to the left side as a handoff and he gets caught up in the wash. There's another bootleg at 4:18, but admittedly that one was almost impossible to defend based upon the formation. I tried to post the link not sure if it will work for you guys.



I guess my question to you is...are you saying its impossible for Watt to miss an assignment?? Im not asking you this to question your belief in Watt. Im asking this as a genuine question.

 

[Confluence]

Bytch you just mad because you got caught up upvoting a comment that made you and everybody who agreed with it look dumb ssa hell.

Nope
You are an assshat, unable to have civil discourse with members here.

Your logic is very poor, your writing is limited and you insult in every single post you make. It's you against everyone else here at SN.com.

It's ok to have different opinions, but yours show you to less able to understand Steeler history and the context of the present situation, if you will.

It's ok that you are a Tomlin nuthugger, but almost every post you make contains stuff that is not true.

I'd suggest that you try to do better, for the sake of the rest of the posters here, but that seems less likely than asking Villaneuva to come out of retirement to fix the LT spot.

 

[NoKap#7]

Nope
You are an assshat, unable to have civil discourse with members here.

Your logic is very poor, your writing is limited and you insult in every single post you make. It's you against everyone else here at SN.com.

It's ok to have different opinions, but yours show you to less able to understand Steeler history and the context of the present situation, if you will.

It's ok that you are a Tomlin nuthugger, but almost every post you make contains stuff that is not true.

I'd suggest that you try to do better, for the sake of the rest of the posters here, but that seems less likely than asking Villaneuva to come out of retirement to fix the LT spot.

Almost every post i make contains stuff that isnt true?? ...I guess that wasnt the post i countered that you upvoted... how about one post where I said something that wasnt true??? It should be pretty easy to find since you said "almost every post"....I'll wait....

 

[Steeltime]

But they weren't playing from.behind most of the game. The Jets played from.behind just as much ...

Did you not watch the game? The Steelers led 7-3 in the 1st quarter at 3 1/2 minutes, Jets score a TD with 25 seconds left in the 1st to retake the lead, then Steelers get a Boz field goal at 13:26 to get the lead for another 3 1/2 minutes. Jets score a TD with 10 minutes left in the 2nd quarter and hold the lead until 14 minutes left in the game, when Rodgers hit Austin. Steelers held that lead for 7 minutes, Jets score TD at 7 minutes left to retake lead until Boz field goal with 1 minute left.

Jets led for most of 2nd quarter, all of 3rd quarter, and half of the 4th quarter. Yes, the Jets led most of the game.

Also, Steelers had just 271 yards of offense, Jets had 394. Steelers held the ball for 25 minutes, Jets for 35 minutes. The Jets dominated the game and the Steelers squeaked out a lucky win because Boswell can hit from 60 yards.

Repeat, 60 yards.

 

[NoKap#7]

Did you not watch the game? The Steelers led 7-3 in the 1st quarter at 3 1/2 minutes, Jets score a TD with 25 seconds left in the 1st to retake the lead, then Steelers get a Boz field goal at 13:26 to get the lead for another 3 1/2 minutes. Jets score a TD with 10 minutes left in the 2nd quarter and hold the lead until 14 minutes left in the game, when Rodgers hit Austin. Steelers held that lead for 7 minutes, Jets score TD at 7 minutes left to retake lead until Boz field goal with 1 minute left.

Jets led for most of 2nd quarter, all of 3rd quarter, and half of the 4th quarter. Yes, the Jets led most of the game.

Also, Steelers had just 271 yards of offense, Jets had 394. Steelers held the ball for 25 minutes, Jets for 35 minutes. The Jets dominated the game and the Steelers squeaked out a lucky win because Boswell can hit from 60 yards.

Repeat, 60 yards.

If Boswell is more then capable of hitting a 60 yarder then its not luck...let's start there. Let's also not ignore the blatant pass interference penalty that wasnt called a play or two before. If the correct call is made are we still having this conversation or would you guys continue to move the goalpost and find something else to bytch about?? To be honest with you i could care less about the number of minutes each team had the lead. If youre insisting this was the equivalent of the Bills Ravens game then youre dead wrong. The 7 lead changes alone validate that. At the end of the day its the first game of the season, on the road, involving players who rarely played in preseason, with what is believed to be a key defensive player out.

Im all for the getting the mess cleaned up that could have cost them the game, but the way you guys are dragging this is a prime example of ungrateful behavior. If the Steelers won the game you certainly couldn't tell from these posts. Not every game is going to be complete domination. Sometimes its good to see a team work through adversity.

 

[Steeltime]

Last I checked field goals are a part of the game moron so what does it matter if the kick was from 20 yards or 60 yards???

You believe there is no difference between a field goal that determines if the team wins or loses is from 20 yards or 60 yards??

 

[NoKap#7]

You believe there is no difference between a field goal that determines if the team wins or loses is from 20 yards or 60 yards??

I dont know ask the browns kicker that question.

 

[Steeltime]

If Boswell is more then capable of hitting a 60 yarder then its not luck...let's start there.

His career long - that means the longest field he had ever made, ever, previously - was 59 yards.

Let's also not ignore the blatant pass interference penalty that wasnt called a play or two before.

Going 30 yards down the sidelines is a pretty risky move. Yes, lotta contact, don't disagree but the percentage of passes where DPI is called is what, 2%?

If the correct call is made are we still having this conversation or would you guys continue to move the goalpost and find something else to bytch about??

Do you think the Steelers showed a well-coached team on Sunday? I don't. I'm used to it and what oversized men in pajamas chasing after a ball do has no real effect on my life so I don't care much any more, but the Steelers gave up 394 yards, 183 on the ground, 32 points, and 35 minutes TOP by the opponent. They were rescued by two future HOF players, Rodgers and Bosworth.

That has been the criticism of Tomlin for at least ten years, that he is not nearly as good as most believe and is regularly saved by HOF players performing in a way that has nothing to do with his coaching. Happened again on Sunday. Also, this has been Mike Tomlin's defense since Lebeau left and the results are nowhere near what we would hope.

Good heavens, 299 rushing yards given up in a playoff blowout, then spend all this draft capital to address the issue, come out opening week and give up 183 to a team that had no running game the prior year?

 

[NoKap#7]

His career long - that means the longest field he had ever made, ever, previously - was 59 yards.



Going 30 yards down the sidelines is a pretty risky move. Yes, lotta contact, don't disagree but the percentage of passes where DPI is called is what, 2%?



Do you think the Steelers showed a well-coached team on Sunday? I don't. I'm used to it and what oversized men in pajamas chasing after a ball do has no real effect on my life so I don't care much any more, but the Steelers gave up 394 yards, 183 on the ground, 32 points, and 35 minutes TOP by the opponent. They were rescued by two future HOF players, Rodgers and Bosworth.

That has been the criticism of Tomlin for at least ten years, that he is not nearly as good as most believe and is regularly saved by HOF players performing in a way that has nothing to do with his coaching. Happened again on Sunday. Also, this has been Mike Tomlin's defense since Lebeau left and the results are nowhere near what we would hope.

Good heavens, 299 rushing yards given up in a playoff blowout, then spend all this draft capital to address the issue, come out opening week and give up 183 to a team that had no running game the prior year?

Dude, you know what?? Go argue with your momma. You're bringing up a teams ability to run the ball last year with AR at qb as opposed to Justin Fields this year. That's the end of this conversation right there. You're being nitpicky bro. Just trying to find ish to complain about. Try and focus on the positives of the game for once. You got anything to say about what they did right?? Unbelievable.

 

[Steeltime]

I dont know ask the browns kicker that question.

You realize, I hope, that you are undercutting your own position completely here.

Right?

 

[NoKap#7]

You realize, I hope, that you are undercutting your own position completely here.

Right?

No im not at all, especially if youre going to dismiss the fact there was a penalty that should have been called that would have put them much closer. By the way he wasnt making that throw to try and draw a penalty as you seem to imply. You do what you have to do at that point which is kick the fg. What do you want them to do?? Throw a hail Mary?? ...