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slashsteel said:
Veteran Steelers beat writer Ed Bouchette has repeatedly stated that Tomlin had the final say on personnel matters, including roster decisions and coaching staff choices.





Bouchette (Feb 2025) was very direct:





Tomlin is “deeply involved” and gets who he wants — that’s the way it is.
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Deeply involved doesn’t mean final say. I would never argue he didn’t have a huge part in it or that he didn’t usually get what he wanted. Except another receiver the last two years.
 
stillwright said:
This is where I always thought we leaned....especially when Omar was elevated to GM. Could be either or I suppose.
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I never heard otherwise. Not does it make sense. When things don’t make sense there is a reason for it.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Deeply involved doesn’t mean final say. I would never argue he didn’t have a huge part in it or that he didn’t usually get what he wanted. Except another receiver the last two years.
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Getting what he wanted is the final say.

They all wanted an upgrade at wide receiver that has nothing to do with anything . Not like one was purposely not acquired.
 
slashsteel said:
Getting what he wanted is the final say.
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I don’t think he always did. Particularly in free agency otherwise we may have had a WR2. In the draft I think they had a consensus already and put it together collaboratively. Free agency was Omar’s game certainly with Mikes input. But even in the draft it was Omar with the “official” stamp of approval. I would love to have had a chance to see how the actual discussions went. It would be enlightening and likely entertaining.

To a degree we are arguing semantics. I think they worked well together.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
I don’t think he always did. Particularly in free agency otherwise we may have had a WR2. In the draft I think they had a consensus already and put it together collaboratively. Free agency was Omar’s game certainly with Mikes input. But even in the draft it was Omar with the “official” stamp of approval. I would love to have had a chance to see how the actual discussions went. It would be enlightening and likely entertaining.

To a degree we are arguing semantics. I think they worked well together.
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He always did if they could find and secure a player. My point is they weren’t refusing anything he wanted and would get them what they could who they could.

Sorry Omar didn’t have the final stamp of approval they went by their board. And if things were equal on their board Mike had the final say unless Rooney would step in but we know that wouldn’t be the normal.

Say Mike wanted Pickett he was equal to another player and say Omar wanted player B. They would draft Pickett. It wouldn’t be a debate if the player was clearly the better value. Then the better value would be drafted.

This is how Steelers do business. They want their coach being able to mold his team.
 
slashsteel said:
He always did if they could find and secure a player. My point is they weren’t refusing anything he wanted and would get them what they could who they could.

Sorry Omar didn’t have the final stamp of approval they went by their board. And if things were equal on their board Mike had the final say unless Rooney would step in but we know that wouldn’t be the normal.

Say Mike wanted Pickett he was equal to another player and say Omar wanted player B. They would draft Pickett. It wouldn’t be a debate if the player was clearly the better value. Then the better value would be drafted.

This is how Steelers do business. They want their coach being able to mold his team.
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Certainly wasn’t that way at times with Cowher and Donahue. If Cowher had his way we would have never had Ben. None of us know for sure without being there.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Certainly wasn’t that way at times with Cowher and Donahue. If Cowher had his way we would have never had Ben. None of us know for sure without being there.
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Sometimes they step in for a QB but again it wasn’t the normal.

Sure we know for sure, they repeatedly reported it Ed , etc.

If you really sit back and think about this you would know what I said makes perfect sense.


It really makes no sense to think Mike didn’t have the final nod the final say. Pushing in a draft for a QB doesn’t alter their approach. It is just the exception not the rule.
 
I think when Colbert left and the "tenure/age/experience" dynamic between Tomlin and the GM changed, Tomlin had a lot more say and was more confident in demanding something if he wanted it.

That is normal work dynamic in any field and no matter how much Rooney tried to keep things in some sort of "chain of command" there is no way Tomlin felt he was under Oman Khan once Colbert left.

There are certainly "eras" of our drafting strategy (going all the way back to when Cowher was first hired) where the fingerprints of who had the most power in the room could be gleened. I certainly think Donahoe had final say during Cowher's first 8 years but when Colbert was first hired, Cowher had more say. Then when Tomlin got hired, Colbert had more say. Then when Khan got promoted Tomlin had more say. Now, with whatever coach we pick, Khan will have more say.

I just hope Khan is up to the task now that he will be the senior person in the room.
 
All you experts on this relationship between Kahn and Tomlin -

I would be interested in your take on how the Pickens situation went down, and the Roman Wilson one, too.

It looks like three stooges stuff to me.
 
Djfan said:
All you experts on this relationship between Kahn and Tomlin -

I would be interested in your take on how the Pickens situation went down, and the Roman Wilson one, too.

It looks like three stooges stuff to me.
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Omar tried to load the room with Mike’s wants and likes in mind. They also had to keep the present and future cap restrictions in mind while the process was ongoing.

Roman was out of favor with Aaron for sloppy route running I believe.

Pickens was out of favor with Mike.
 
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