JPJ Contract

[Avoid_Lloyd]

well fact is , he has the stats to command the high dollar contract. For him ,, "no biggie, ill play out this deal and someone will pay big bucks next year. "

Except he can be franchise tagged. He can’t go anywhere if they don’t want him to. Let’s see him be a game changer on the field this year before backing up the Brinks truck for him

I’ll stick to my guns, he isn’t a game changing player, he’s a good player.

Nothing he’s done on the field justifies him being paid as one of the best 10 corners in the league.

Where are the stats and evidence he’s a top 10 player?

The splurging of money on good, not great defensive players needs to stop until those players create a great defense, not an average one.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Trent has 3 career int's in four seasons, Witherspoon.....2, Mitchell..... 4, Gardner .....3,DeJean....2. Surtain does have 12, but apparently your criteria on the intception front isn't that good. As far as passes defended. Porter is right there with them also. Go figure.

What metric is Porter top 10 in?

 

[Polambertberger]

What metric is Porter top 10 in?

I just listed a bunch if you read

He's number one in tds allowed last year 0
He's number 2 in yards allowed per coverage attempt
He was 2nd in the NFL in forced incompletion % targeted on 3rd down
He was 3rd in qb rating allowed when targeted
He was 4th in lowest catch rate allowed when targeted
He was 5th in separation allowed

So when the opposing QB targeted him on 3rd down to move the chains, he was one of the best. When QBs targeted him in total, he allowed one of the lowest catch rates. When he was assigned to a receiver, he gave one of the lowest rates of separation in the league. When QBs did complete a pass against him he allowed one of the lowest amount of yards per attempt. Finally when QBS tried to score a TD against him they failed every time giving up zero (one of only 2 CBs in the league to do so). In your mind, if he doesn't return a pass for a TD he's not a game changer. LMAO. Before you make statements saying he's not a game changer do your homework bro. He's one of the best in the league but maybe you subscribe to the Tomlin methodology of splash plays and since he isn't making oodles of splash plays he's not worth the money. Tomlin would probably have hired you to be the secondary coach with your thinking. As for me I'd prefer a guy who prevents completions, yards, first downs, and touchdowns. Maybe if Tomlin thought like me the defense would have gotten off the field quicker and held the team to less points but unfortunately he thought like you, loved leading the league in turnovers while ranking woefully defensively, never being able to get off the field, and giving up oodles of points when it mattered most. Drop Mic

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

I just listed a bunch if you read

He's number one in tds allowed last year 0
He's number 2 in yards allowed per coverage attempt
He was 2nd in the NFL in forced incompletion % targeted on 3rd down
He was 3rd in qb rating allowed when targeted
He was 4th in lowest catch rate allowed when targeted
He was 5th in separation allowed

So when the opposing QB targeted him on 3rd down to move the chains, he was one of the best. When QBs targeted him in total, he allowed one of the lowest catch rates. When he was assigned to a receiver, he gave one of the lowest rates of separation in the league. When QBs did complete a pass against him he allowed one of the lowest amount of yards per attempt. Finally when QBS tried to score a TD against him they failed every time giving up zero (one of only 2 CBs in the league to do so). In your mind, if he doesn't return a pass for a TD he's not a game changer. LMAO. Before you make statements saying he's not a game changer do your homework bro. He's one of the best in the league but maybe you subscribe to the Tomlin methodology of splash plays and since he isn't making oodles of splash plays he's not worth the money. Tomlin would probably have hired you to be the secondary coach with your thinking. As for me I'd prefer a guy who prevents completions, yards, first downs, and touchdowns. Maybe if Tomlin thought like me the defense would have gotten off the field quicker and held the team to less points but unfortunately he thought like you, loved leading the league in turnovers while ranking woefully defensively, never being able to get off the field, and giving up oodles of points when it mattered most. Drop Mic

Nice straw man…bro…

You go do some research before you paint me as thinking like Tomlin or defending Tomlin as you’ve been here 5 minutes

If Tomlin only thought like you? LMAO, are you posting in your spare time you have while you coordinate an NFL defense? If you were only half as smart as you think you are…

Where are Porters game changing moments? If you read you’d see I’m talking about game changing plays not just pics

I never even mentioned returned pics for TDs, you go read something…

Or go read your handle and get back to me on if Porter can carry the jock of real top 10 players in their day like Polamalu or Ben who really impacted games

And for anyone looking to have a discussion and not be a pretentious tool like you…maybe Porter becomes that elite player, but he hasn’t shown that yet, sign him to a strong extension, but make him earn top 10 money with continued development

 

[Polambertberger]

Getting a defensive stop can be a game changing play. Not allowing a TD can be a game changing play. Not all game changing plays have to be whittled down to INTs aside from the fact how many turnovers did we get and we got zero points from, or turned rhe ball over immediately, or went three and out from, or got a messy FG which didn't change the game. Everything adds up in an NFL game and so a pass defense here, a 3rd down stop there, tackling a guy before he gets 30 YAC yards, or forcing an incompletion all adds up to changing the game. Not to mention coverage sacks with "game changing forced fumble recoveries" or not giving your receiver separation which then forces a "game changing play". The defense is a unit and without Joey a lot of those "game changing plays" don't happen with his sticky coverage. I know, I know these are hard concepts for you to comprehend coming from a brain that's much larger than yours. I love how you make Polamalu the standard for Porter being worthy now. LMAO.........yeah let's use one of the top 3 or 4 safties to ever play the game as the standard now to rationalize who should get paid. If Frazier wants to get paid when is contract is up I guess we should say he isn't worth the money because he's not Mike Webster or Dawson. I can take that pea brain thinking into any argument for trying to rationalize future contracts and worthiness. Here's another thing which I knew would come up.......I'm a new member. Yeah being here for ages definitely is the standard for rational thinking, unbiased thinking, and intelligence. It's not just that you are a Steeler Nation contributor that merits intelligent posts but how long you've been here. With all of the unintelligent posts you have made over the years your brain must have grown to such immense degree. Time is not indicative of value otherwise we would have said Joe Biden was the greatest statesman of all time......are you the Joe Biden of Steeler Nation? Is that what you are trying to tell me

Your truly,
Unfairly Accused Strawman