This can get real dull fast. Quick prove what some said many years ago, and if not easily found on the web it's not true!!!! I guess that's all you have.
I can play that game, except when you ask I usually show you proof. Recently example the degenerate gambler comment.
I know Colbert had good things to say about Rivers, scouted him heavily, went to his pro day, and called him very accurate.
Everyone knew we were taking a QB, unless you somehow thought Maddox would stay healthy and take the Steelers back to the super bowl
For now here's a web article I found. I'll see if any Colbert quotes can be found. But the onus of proof that Colbert did not want Rivers is on you.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/165549-the-2004-draft-the-legend-of-ben-falls-to-pittsburgh
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http://www.markberger.com/games/steelers_2004_draft.htm
It's already dull since you have no substance to your posturing....
"Quick prove what some said many years ago" Prove what? What was said many years ago? Why can't you comment a coherent sentence on a statement?
Anything can be found on the web if its legitimate genius, and it can also be twisted/turned and fabricated even easier. You are just too ignorant to understand how to examine data/facts and use them with common sense.
There is no game genius.....what proof did you show. Tomlin a Degenerate Gambler?
Here is the link to the subject at hand as written by Dave Bryan at Steeler's Depot. I'd give you the actual press conference literary tract, but the Steelers website only keeps their retro press conferences for only the last few years.
http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2009/04/steelers-monday-pre-draft-ota-press-conference/
The "degenerate gambler" comment was made by Tomlin during a pre-draft press conference with KC after winning the SB in 2009. They were picking at the bottom. There were many questions about the philosophy between the two when drafting. Tomlin answered numerous questions, he also commented he was a "draft junkie", enjoyed the process and was warmly engaging during the entire press conference. His comment about "degenerate gambler" was a coy response after all the questions the press corp was attempting with Tomlin and KC to NOT tip their hand at their focus strategy in the draft. If you had any common sense in your head you would have understood it when you heard/read it. But no, you take one comment in a 20 minute press conference and run with it like "look here! look here!! Tomlin says he is a degenerate gambler....he's not fit to be a coach or for whatever your dislike of the day for him was at that time. So spare us the "show proof" BS because, your proof is usually fabricated to augment some agenda you are promoting.
Keep backing tracking on the Colbert LOVES Rivers rant. It's hilarious. We know you love Rivers, probably wished Pitt had him instead of Ben. So you can fantasize your belief that you were right about something during a hypothetical conversation with TMC. Give it a rest. TMC has owned you on almost every topic you've ever tried to argue against.
In the 18 years KC has been in the Steelers organization, I have not heard/read him say one bad thing about ANY player to be drafted. I do know Colbert goes to almost all the Pro-Days of prospects they have projected in their draft preparations. Its either an interview at the Combine, a Pro-Day or a PItt visit. Sometimes both AND a visit before the draft. They even evaluate guys after the draft, have them come in just so they can have a record in their books for future reference. KC has done this since his hiring. He had positive things to say about every QB rated in the first round. Eli, Rivers, Ben as well as non-QB's Not sure about JP Losman, because I don't think he was even a 1st round consideration until Buffalo grabbed him. But please keep thinking KC only fixated on Rivers....you bring more humor to yourself when you do.
Everyone knew huh? BS....When Rivers and Eli went off the board, Cowher was then looking at drafting OL (Shawn Andrews?) but Mr. Rooney intervened and recommended getting Ben, as he always loathed he passed on Marino when he had the chance to have a franchise QB.
God in heaven......you are so inept. Where have I stated Colbert did not want Rivers? Where genius? There isn't any post from me that cites "Colbert did not want Rivers". He had him rated higher than Ben, But Rivers was gone when NY picked him, Everyone knew the trade was going to happen BEFORE Rivers was picked. So there was no accounting that he would even be available. At that point they were looking at Fitzgerald, DB or OL. I know Dunta Robinson was heavily picked in mocks here and by the writers, When Hall went, and then Robinson got picked at 10, OL was in the picture but Kiper and all the talking heads were then saying Ben. It came out later that Cowher wanted Andrews....but was vetoed to picking Ben.
Both of those articles you posted aren't even written by authentic press writers or beat writers for the Steelers. They are opinion pieces for their blogs. So don't think you are giving some astounding not known information from the organization. The only game you can play is idolizing yourself thinking you know more than the rest of us. You don't. Come to grips with it and you will be a better poster, and not the Board's clown.