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Joe Biden opens his campaign in Pittsburgh

Troglodyte said:
LOL!

Trump, the former pro-choice democrat? The man who has five children to three different women and has unprotected sex with porn stars has a moral compass?
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Exactly! That all happened when he was a democrat.
 
Troglodyte said:
LOL!

Trump, the former pro-choice democrat? The man who has five children to three different women and has unprotected sex with porn stars has a moral compass?
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When did I say he was a great all around guy. I didn't....because it's irrelevant to me. He enacts policies that he believes in and to hell with any donors behind the scenes. Because he doesn't need them. Is that sinking into your head better?
 
Troglodyte said:
LOL!

Trump, the former pro-choice democrat? The man who has five children to three different women and has unprotected sex with porn stars has a moral compass?
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Are you saying that getting married three times is immoral, or having children with those wives is immoral? Then are you saying that unprotected sex is immoral, or having sex with a porn star is immoral?
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Are you saying that getting married three times is immoral, or having children with those wives is immoral? Then are you saying that unprotected sex is immoral, or having sex with a porn star is immoral?
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Those things are only immoral when you’re trying to impeach Bill Clinton, right?

Let me throw out this question to all you pro-life Trumptards: If Stormy Daniels had contacted Trump a couple months after their tryst and told him she was pregnant with his kid, do you really believe in your heart of hearts that he would have not wanted her to get an abortion?
 
Troglodyte said:
Those things are only immoral when you’re trying to impeach Bill Clinton, right?

Let me throw out this question to all you pro-life Trumptards: If Stormy Daniels had contacted Trump a couple months after their tryst and told him she was pregnant with his kid, do you really believe in your heart of hearts that he would have not wanted her to get an abortion?
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I am pro-life but not really a Trumptard. There is no doubt in my mind he would. Doesn’t change my view.
 
Troglodyte said:
Those things are only immoral when you’re trying to impeach Bill Clinton, right?

Let me throw out this question to all you pro-life Trumptards: If Stormy Daniels had contacted Trump a couple months after their tryst and told him she was pregnant with his kid, do you really believe in your heart of hearts that he would have not wanted her to get an abortion?
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Now wait just a minute here. A liberal using false equivalency and hypothetical misdirection? No way!
 
Welp, if Sleepy Creepy Joe keeps sticking his hoof in his mouth I can see a Hillary/Moochelle ticket


ayep
 
Troglodyte said:
Those things are only immoral when you’re trying to impeach Bill Clinton, right?
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That wasn't why he was impeached. Anyone married to Hillary deserves a side piece.

Let me throw out this question to all you pro-life Trumptards: If Stormy Daniels had contacted Trump a couple months after their tryst and told him she was pregnant with his kid, do you really believe in your heart of hearts that he would have not wanted her to get an abortion?
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People's personal lives and their views on abortion are way down my list of priorities when I vote for someone.
 
Troglodyte said:
Those things are only immoral when you’re trying to impeach Bill Clinton, right?

Let me throw out this question to all you pro-life Trumptards: If Stormy Daniels had contacted Trump a couple months after their tryst and told him she was pregnant with his kid, do you really believe in your heart of hearts that he would have not wanted her to get an abortion?
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Bill Clinton was impeached for committing perjury is a sexual harassment lawsuit against him, not for being immoral. I agree with you that the things Trump has done are disgusting and immoral, and that Trump would absolutely have probably done that, just like hypocrite Tim Murphy did.

Some of us are capable of seeing the world objectively and not just through red or blue colored glasses.
 
oneforthebus said:
Remember when Hillary was ahead in all the polls? Good times.

One debate and Biden is finished, probably in the primaries but definitely in the general. It's hard to make Trump look smart but Biden will manage to get it done.
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Oh Trump is a master in debates. He can cut his opponents down to size, humiliate them also and speak in language that the everyday person latches right onto.
 
Biden already looks tired. He will drop out. The other dem attacks are already taking their toll.
 
Supersteeler said:
Oh Trump is a master in debates. He can cut his opponents down to size, humiliate them also and speak in language that the everyday person latches right onto.
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Trump is terrible in debates. If you call teenage name calling and insults a master then i guess you are right on. I don't see Biden going back and forth with Trump so it will be interesting what the public thinks. I do think Biden appears tired and he is barely out there right now. The dems are already chewing him up and if he doesn't start running a more aggressive campaign i think his support will hopefully taper off and someone will overtake him.
 
Trump is terrible in debates? Did you follow his election at all?
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Trump is terrible in debates? Did you follow his election at all?
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I was going to say the same thing. WTF? The line “Because you’d be in jail” is one of the greatest things ever said in a debate. It was the equivalent of a pile-driver.
 
jitter77 said:
Trump is terrible in debates. If you call teenage name calling and insults a master then i guess you are right on. I don't see Biden going back and forth with Trump so it will be interesting what the public thinks. I do think Biden appears tired and he is barely out there right now. The dems are already chewing him up and if he doesn't start running a more aggressive campaign i think his support will hopefully taper off and someone will overtake him.
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Did it work? Yes it did. He won the Presidency doing just that. Results don't jive with your opinion.
 
Supersteeler said:
Did it work? Yes it did. He won the Presidency doing just that. Results don't jive with your opinion.
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sure he won, but it was not due to his debate skills. He got demolished in his first debate with hillary. I think it was the next debate with hillary where that line came in and i would say he won that debate. Most of his debate time is spent insulting other people. He won due to being different, but his act is getting old. He could definitely win again depending on how extreme the dem candidate is. I am not sure biden excites the fan base enough. Sanders must be a bit too radical. i certainly don't think anyone will vote for warren. Will be interesting to see who the dems pick
 
jitter77 said:
Trump is terrible in debates.
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I wouldn't say that, not by a long shot. Now is he a naturally witty or articulate orator? No. But he got "Little Marco" "Lyin' Ted" & "Low Energy Jeb" all playing his game, a game he beat them all at.

Yes, they are insults, but you don't get anywhere in this political game by being nice. Hillary committed the biggest insult of 2016 when she called half of the country deplorable. I don't know if Trump has ever insulted a particular group of regular people (the media don't count), just the empty suit politicians who represent them.
 
Old Joe gonna try to hold the ball and run out the clock. He can sleepwalk through the primaries, donor money and super delegates will make him the nominee if it gets close




Iowa poll makes waves among 2020 Democrats

The latest poll of Iowa voters sparked reactions from several 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, who said the large primary field means even candidates with relatively low numbers are viable contenders.

The benchmark Des Moines Register/CNN poll, released Saturday night, showed former Vice President Joe Biden's lead narrowing, though he retained a significant advantage with 24 percent support.

Second place was a three-way statistical tie, with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) at 16 percent, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) at 15 percent and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 14 percent

"We're not going to get 50 percent of the vote in Iowa, I don't think anybody will," Bernie Sanders said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447636-iowa-poll-makes-waves-among-2020-democrats
 
Kamala Harris is in the back of the pack.....where she belongs.
 
xjx said:
Kamala Harris is in the back of the pack.....where she belongs.
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She is the anointed one that all my under 50 over 30 dem friends want... Biden is the over 50 crowd. The younger ones still want communist Bernie, but there is no chance that will happen. iDK anyone pulling for warren... petey is still relatively unknown but a good hedge if he catches fire...

I still don’t see a good Trump counter though... Biden can win back some of the middle ground voters, but he isn’t at all giving them any young voters... warren is a crackpot who will get trounced in the general... Bernie has too much outright communist dirt on him... the general public will flee from him once the link between democratic socialism and straight communism is made. Harris is a flake with no substance.
I think the DNC will hope pete gets hot and doesn’t have hidden baggage... or that Trump just gets bored and drops out...
 
Gabbard is the most level headed of the bunch. But the DNC doesn't want her. They want someone that they can control. Biden, Warren, Harris would be their puppet.
 
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