Covid Vaccine

[Steeler Pride]

“Promised”, “We we’re lied to!”. Your sense of entitlement is pathetic.

If I am injecting my body or my children's bodies with a foreign substance, I would assume that I am fully entitled to believe and expect that what the medical community is telling me regarding the vaccination is accurate. Nice to know that you will do whatever the government tells you, regardless of accuracy, just because they told you to do it.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

You keep suggesting that 500k is much better than 600k. Whatever.

Oh it fucken matters a lot. A ton in fact. Using the "reported" deaths of 688,488 as of today:

2020 Supposed Covid deaths: 366K (Mar 1 - Dec 31 - 305 days) - 1,200 deaths/day
2021 Supposed Covid deaths: 322K (Jan 1 to Sep 17 - 259 days) - 1,243 deaths/day

(btw thank you President ***** His Pants for worsening the situation)

If the number were 500K deaths, we'd have been averaging approximately 886 deaths a day.

"No big ******* deal, JFC!! OMG girl!" /Floggy

It matters for this to be correct. It matters that we make it accurate. It's necessary to know the enemy, not make it appear worse than it is so you can use it for political purposes.

Its bizarre how Covid is mocked and downplayed on this board until one of the members announces they or a family member has it and then the mood turns somber and serious. WTF? It’s like they temporarily drop the political ideology and face the real world.

I don't know, I've written about it 3 times now. There was no morbidity. I announced my son had it, then my wife and son, then myself with no morbidity. People addressed it just the same as anyone has here when someone's said they've been sick. Well wishes.

I can't remember a time where there was worry expressed, gnashing of teeth, wailing, crying, or a sense of morbidity. Never somber or serious. Most of the time it's rest, drink fluids, take vitamins and see ya soon you have a 99.98% chance of survival.

You literally create false realities to live in.

 

[Sarge]

The unvaccinated are spreading Covid.

Don't kid yourself Skippy. EVERYONE is spreading COVID.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Yes, states are transferring patients because their ICUs are being overwhelmed…

Patients Coming To AHN From Other States With Overwhelmed Hospital Systems

AHN is taking care of patients from across the country as hospitals reach capacity in other states.

pittsburgh.cbslocal.com

Don't try to change the argument now Floggy. The argument was not about capacity. You argued that patients from rural areas was the reason the Allegheny hospitals had 40% breakthrough cases - perhaps your stupidest argument yet.

1. You posted an article from PPG in which Allegheny hospitals testified that upwards of 40% of their cases were breakthrough vaxed patients
2. You posted an article from PPG saying statewide only 4% of cases were breakthrough
3. I pointed out the discrepancies AND that Allegheny is 10% of PA's population and 2nd largest county
4. Your dumb *** responded "that's because Allegheny hospitals are taking care of rural patients in their hospital."

So to summarize, Floggy thinks that rural people - who Floggy has argued are rubes and unvaccinated - are brought to Allegheny hospitals and make their breakthrough case percentages (people vaxed getting the virus) increase.............................................

........If these rural people hadn't been brought in, the breakthrough cases would be 4% of all cases, but bringing in the Clampetts (unvaxed people) made their PERCENTAGE of breakthrough cases (vaxed people) increase 36 points.

Folks, this is proof. Life is stranger than fiction. We argue with a certified moron.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

If I am injecting my body or my children's bodies with a foreign substance, I would assume that I am fully entitled to believe and expect that what the medical community is telling me regarding the vaccination is accurate. Nice to know that you will do whatever the government tells you, regardless of accuracy, just because they told you to do it.

Great point.

Can someone get a Gubmint representative, any representative, to email Floggy and tell him to wire his China-made funds Steeler Nation and tell Floggy to move to Hungardistan?

$50 says he'll do it. Gubmint says, Floggy must obey.

Everyone can make a $50 wager except Steeltime. He's still $50 short from Jizzed.

 

[Troglodyte]

If I am injecting my body or my children's bodies with a foreign substance, I would assume that I am fully entitled to believe and expect that what the medical community is telling me regarding the vaccination is accurate. Nice to know that you will do whatever the government tells you, regardless of accuracy, just because they told you to do it.

That’s the difference between you and heroes like Jonas Salk.

 

[Steeler Pride]

That’s the difference between you and heroes like Jonas Salk.

Yes, comparing the general public to virologists and medical researchers...because they are totally one in the same and should have the same expectations. I would ask you if you can really be that stupid, but you seem to take that as a challenge and continue to up the ante.

 

[madinsomniac]

So the thing to remember about the covid deaths is that the extreme majority would have been dead in five years regardless…. Most a lot less than that… almost no covid deaths are from the breeding age of the population… as far as illnesses goes, it doesn’t have a long term impact on the population…

The Spanish Flu was literally many times worse than covid… its not even close… over two years in this country covis hasnt even killed 15000 people under the age of 40… and its estimated 2/3rds or more of those were previously terminal or heavily saturated with co-morbidities… the rest align with the regular percentage of bad reactions to respiratory illnesses… cytokine storm phenomenon isn’t something that originated with covid… its a low percentage reality that comes with pneumonia and bronchitis infections on a small percentage of the population …

i gets its not very pc to say, but all this illness is doing is pruning the population of people that likely were already doomed…

The Spanish flu targeted young people and with far less spread killed 2% of tge world’s population… mostly young… and it killed healthy people quickly… people got sick and died the same day…

Political number biasing in deaths is a totally real thing… in 09, while trying to downplay an extremely deadly swine flu virus outbreak, the obama administration didn’t estimate deaths… didn’t count anyone except tested individuals that died of the virus almost exclusively…we know now that thanks to a simular virus in the sixties, virtually all of the older population was immune… so it almost exclusively killed young people… but that was hidden from everyone…. Years later scientists started tabulating test results and realized that the numbers everywhere were biased very low…

2009 Swine-Flu Death Toll 10 Times Higher Than Thought

The swine-flu pandemic of 2009 may have killed 10 times more people than originally estimated, a new global analysis of deaths concludes.

www.livescience.com

Covid is deadly for some, but as odd as it sounds, it’s virtually irrelevant to actual world population… it really isnt denting it at all

 

[Troglodyte]

Oh it fucken matters a lot. A ton in fact. Using the "reported" deaths of 688,488 as of today:

2020 Supposed Covid deaths: 366K (Mar 1 - Dec 31 - 305 days) - 1,200 deaths/day
2021 Supposed Covid deaths: 322K (Jan 1 to Sep 17 - 259 days) - 1,243 deaths/day

(btw thank you President ***** His Pants for worsening the situation)

If the number were 500K deaths, we'd have been averaging approximately 886 deaths a day.

"No big ******* deal, JFC!! OMG girl!" /Floggy

It matters for this to be correct. It matters that we make it accurate. It's necessary to know the enemy, not make it appear worse than it is so you can use it for political purposes.



I don't know, I've written about it 3 times now. There was no morbidity. I announced my son had it, then my wife and son, then myself with no morbidity. People addressed it just the same as anyone has here when someone's said they've been sick. Well wishes.

I can't remember a time where there was worry expressed, gnashing of teeth, wailing, crying, or a sense of morbidity. Never somber or serious. Most of the time it's rest, drink fluids, take vitamins and see ya soon you have a 99.98% chance of survival.

You literally create false realities to live in.

You keep trying to bring politics into this and I’m to believe that it’s not ideological for you?

I do recall you getting serious when I referred to your “Covid kid” instead of the somehow more sensitive and politically correct “kid that had Covid” whenever he had “just the flu”.

 

[Troglodyte]

Don't try to change the argument now Floggy. The argument was not about capacity. You argued that patients from rural areas was the reason the Allegheny hospitals had 40% breakthrough cases - perhaps your stupidest argument yet.

1. You posted an article from PPG in which Allegheny hospitals testified that upwards of 40% of their cases were breakthrough vaxed patients
2. You posted an article from PPG saying statewide only 4% of cases were breakthrough
3. I pointed out the discrepancies AND that Allegheny is 10% of PA's population and 2nd largest county
4. Your dumb *** responded "that's because Allegheny hospitals are taking care of rural patients in their hospital."

So to summarize, Floggy thinks that rural people - who Floggy has argued are rubes and unvaccinated - are brought to Allegheny hospitals and make their breakthrough case percentages (people vaxed getting the virus) increase.............................................

........If these rural people hadn't been brought in, the breakthrough cases would be 4% of all cases, but bringing in the Clampetts (unvaxed people) made their PERCENTAGE of breakthrough cases (vaxed people) increase 36 points.

Folks, this is proof. Life is stranger than fiction. We argue with a certified moron.

Follow along, he was questioning how we can have a surge with so many vaccinated and how the unvaccinated can be blamed.

 

[Troglodyte]

Yes, comparing the general public to virologists and medical researchers...because they are totally one in the same and should have the same expectations. I would ask you if you can really be that stupid, but you seem to take that as a challenge and continue to up the ante.

Read up on Jonas Salk and who the test subjects were for the polio vaccine and then consider your sense of entitlement.

 

[madinsomniac]

That’s the difference between you and heroes like Jonas Salk.

So can you tell me the difference between the argument that we shouldn’t use ivermectin, a human approved medicine since 1981 because “we don’t know the long term effects with covid”

and three novel vaccines two of which are using methodologies never approved for humans and a third that is using viral vector science that has some fairly bad potential bad effects if off… none of which have any long term data….

so why hold back the first which has oodles of actual data supporting it and go full steam with the other…

 

[Steeler Pride]

Read up on Jonas Salk and who the test subjects were for the polio vaccine and then consider your sense of entitlement.

Dumbfuck, he only injected his kids with the vaccine after testing it on other kids for almost 8 months, including the Polk State School for the Retarded and Feeble-minded. The GENERAL PUBLIC should have the entitlement to know from the medical and scientific community WHAT the drug does and WHY they should inject it BEFORE they are forced to take the drug. You are damn straight I am entitled to know what I am putting in my body or my children's bodies BEFORE I inject it.

 

[madinsomniac]

Follow along, he was questioning how we can have a surge with so many vaccinated and how the unvaccinated can be blamed.

The pandemic of the unvaccinated line was concocted when the country wasn’t testing vaccinated people and off the cuff ruling out covid for anything with them because they were vaccinated…this biased all the data to look like all the cases were unvaccinated…. It was always a false narrative…

the vaccinated are at less risk and should quit worrying about the unvaccinated… the people in the hospital are mostly going to be there vaccinated or not… the people dying of this, their immune systems cannot deal with it and for the most part that is true of some of the vaccinated as well…. A vaccine boosters immune systems… it can’t fix a busted one…

 

[madinsomniac]

Im not sure how much stock i put in the cancer results already… tgere are a lot of factors besides the vaccines that can cause that… but i know specifically the viral vector method had some cancer concerns years ago… I don’t know if that was resolved or not… there is nothing on the mrna stuff… we know it failed to cure cancer, but ive never seen anything on it proven to cause cancer yet… probably because nobody has actually tested it long term for some stupid reason

 

[madinsomniac]

Dumbfuck, he only injected his kids with the vaccine after testing it on other kids for almost 8 months, including the Polk State School for the Retarded and Feeble-minded. The GENERAL PUBLIC should have the entitlement to know from the medical and scientific community WHAT the drug does and WHY they should inject it BEFORE they are forced to take the drug. You are damn straight I am entitled to know what I am putting in my body or my children's bodies BEFORE I inject it.

I wonder if the public knows how often this country has used mentally slow people and soldiers for medical testing… it’s unethical and illegal and we did it all the time…

 

[IndySteel]

I wonder if the public knows how often this country has used mentally slow people for medical testing…

Huh. So Flog does actually serve a purpose.

 

[Steeler Pride]

I wonder if the public knows how often this country has used mentally slow people and soldiers for medical testing… it’s unethical and illegal and we did it all the time…

Yep, it's "my body, my choice" only when convenient for what they want to occur. The rest of the time it's "your body, our choice"

 

[Superman]

Read up on Jonas Salk and who the test subjects were for the polio vaccine and then consider your sense of entitlement.

yeah, he injected his own kids.
of his own goddamned ******* free will.

NOT under goobermint mandate.
NOT because the gubmint do be say to.
NOT because he was a goddamned lemming, you goddamned lemming.

additionally, and I ask you this - while the polio vaccine was "experimental" in a sense, did it involve mRNA triggering the human immune system or was it more traditionally derived from dead/decaying/dying forms of the virus?

 

[Steelworth]

Hey, I like Sarah McLachlan. I think she's a good singer.

She is good. I should've said Enya. You know what point I was making.

 

[Steelworth]

Tibs is cheering on the guy with the mask.

Tibs IS the guy in the mask. Well, if he left his hole in Hungtardistan.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Not surprising

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Just a simple word problem based on accepted notions by the left.

Unvax people can spread Covid
Vax people can spread Covid
Masks definitely slow the spread of Covid
Unvax people are required to wear masks
Vax people are not required to wear masks
Unvax are barred from many venues and groups
Vax can go wherever they like and in any number

Given these accepted beliefs, which group is more likely to spread Covid?

 

[Badcat]

Just a simple word problem based on accepted notions by the left.

Unvax people can spread Covid
Vax people can spread Covid
Masks definitely slow the spread of Covid
Unvax people are required to wear masks
Vax people are not required to wear masks
Unvax are barred from many venues and groups
Vax can go whoever they like and in any number

Given these accepted beliefs, which group is more likely to spread Covid?

Oh, I'm spreading covid like an Oprah give away baby! no mask, no gloves, just me and my natural immunity!

Walmart
Aldi's
Texas Road House for dinner
Costco - Hey they brought the samples back out! yum!
Liquor store
Gas station

 

[suncitysteel]

i gets its not very pc to say, but all this illness is doing is pruning the population of people that likely were already doomed…

I thought about this. Then I looked up U.S. birth/mortality rates and came to the conclusion that there is Defcon-1-level cause for concern regarding pending social entitlements (SS, Medicare). Consider these stats:
Mid-1980's: Births per woman: nearly 2. Births per 1000 women: 16. Deaths per 1000 people: 8.9
2019-2020: Births per woman: 1.8. Births per 1000 women: 12. Deaths per 1000 people: 8.7

So, fewer births + fewer deaths = more older people alive needing to collect SS & other benefits and fewer younger people in the workforce to pay into the system.

Could those pulling the levers be cognizant of this and - gasp! - orchestrate not only a viral pandemic to "de-populate" those entitled to the benefits, but somehow, someway fix another problem.... say, allow a large number of a certain demographic, say those from Latin American countries, who are more apt to have larger numbers of children.... then legalize them and give them SS#s and have new taxpayers pay into the system. To some this may all be super-loco-conspiracy theory... but the big picture is nearly always out of view for the world, who would rather only see the world and its workings using tunnel vision. What's that saying... truth is stranger than fiction.