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2025 Divisional Round Saturday

Williams is good but also a fumbler… so he’s not that good.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Belicheat is nothing without two things, cheating and Brady, maybe three if you include Ernie Adams. Reid has at least won games and made teams look good without a great QB. Hell Tomlin does better than Belicheat when Bill doesn't have Brady one year aside. Belicheat is a fraud.
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I don't think you can make that leap. Winners win. He brought in quality position coaches and coordinators and they always had decent to very good defenses. Plus unlike Tomlin, when their position groups including oline looked bad, by the end of the season they at least looked decent.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
I don't think you can make that leap. Winners win. He brought in quality position coaches and coordinators and they always had decent to very good defenses. Plus unlike Tomlin, when their position groups including oline looked bad, by the end of the season they at least looked decent.
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History of team records with and without a top QB favors Tomlin over Belicheat. That is all I am saying.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
I get it but truly think it is simply a case of our perceptions and biases defining our reality. Would you agree the refs generally are subpar and get multiple calls wrong every game? With that being true, it isn’t hard to watch a game expecting to see bad calls and to feel they lean towards our expected bias. To this day you will find most Seattle fans blame the refs for us winning that Superbowl. Bengals fans have never lost a game they didn’t blame on the refs.
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Seattle fans have a point on the SB; that push off call was deep, deep bull.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Knowing how and where to get open and being in synch with the QB can mean as much or more than sheer physical talent. They both have great field awareness and together that makes them very dangerous. Mahomes feels like the modern-day football equivalent of Magic Johnson. He sees the whole field.
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Obviously.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
We don’t have Mahomes. That is a pretty simple analysis. QB is the real answer not the coach as much.
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Mahomes is great, but he had pedestrian stats yesterday. Reid has quietly built a top ten defense, and they were the reason KC won that game.

Tomlin has built nothing except teams capable of non-losing regular seasons and varying levels of playoff embarrassment.
 
topseed said:
Mahomes is great, but he had pedestrian stats yesterday. Reid has quietly built a top ten defense, and they were the reason KC won that game.

Tomlin has built nothing except teams capable of non-losing regular seasons and varying levels of playoff embarrassment.
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True. But varying would mean there was some change in that result. There has been none.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
True. But varying would mean there was some change in that result. There has been none.
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No, varying means while they've all been embarrassing, some have been worse than others. For example, nobody expected the Steelers to beat the Bills on the road last year with Mason Rudolph at quarterback. Falling behind 28-0 to Cleveland at home? That was next-level humiliation.
 
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In researching that game, I came across this, from ESPN.com:

"Pittsburgh tried to claw back in it. The Steelers pulled within 35-23 at the end of the third quarter. Facing fourth-and-1 at the Pittsburgh 46 on the first play of the fourth, Tomlin opted to punt.

'I wanted to pin them down and maybe provide a short field for their offense,' Tomlin said. 'I just wanted to keep the momentum going in terms of field positioning.'

It didn't work out. The kick bounced into the end zone for a touchback and Mayfield calmly took Cleveland 80 yards in six plays. The sideline erupted as Chubb streaked into the end zone."


Tomlin punts the ball away in the fourth quarter down by two touchdowns...sound familiar? Same shlt, different year.
 
Well that took some of the sting out. Wouldn't have thought Andrew's woukd blow it. Great play design. Ravens fans will question not running Henry.
 
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