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All you ******* who were chaffing over the Minkah trade...

Those Asshats almost lost to Texas, win by 1 point, and they're still ranked #2. If you're Bama, Notre Dame, or OSU you get treated differently, I guess. Any other team wins by one over an unranked team and they dropping at least 8 spots.
Stop...Texas is a real contender and when they get their QB back I fully expect them to show and prove. Oh, guess what, we welcome them to the SEC (in 2023)!!!

And the last time I checked - 1 point or 100 points is still a win...
 
Stop...Texas is a real contender and when they get their QB back I fully expect them to show and prove. Oh, guess what, we welcome them to the SEC (in 2023)!!!

And the last time I checked - 1 point or 100 points is still a win...
Not in FBS. It can be how you win as much as if. Sad to say.
 
Yes. He was a super young high talent available for what was going to be a middling first round pick. It was one of like four scenarios that you deal a first rounder in
It would not have been a “middling” first round pick.

First game he played he raised the entire defense because his talents covered so much & enabled everyone else to raise their game in their roles. I even took heat after suggesting this on this forum only 1 game in.

— so to all of youse who said I was wrong, suck it !

Steelers would have picked somewhere in the #8 - #12 range with the hopes of getting blue chip talent like Minkah, and with only 3 picks in top 11 this millennium, they haven’t seen too many chances to get one.
 
It would not have been a “middling” first round pick.

First game he played he raised the entire defense because his talents covered so much & enabled everyone else to raise their game in their roles. I even took heat after suggesting this on this forum only 1 game in.

— so to all of youse who said I was wrong, suck it !

Steelers would have picked somewhere in the #8 - #12 range with the hopes of getting blue chip talent like Minkah, and with only 3 picks in top 11 this millennium, they haven’t seen too many chances to get one.
Ill buy that he saved us some wins that season… but still if you are trading a first round pick it had better be for a guy who will solidify a position for more than half a decade… and he was it
 
It would not have been a “middling” first round pick.

First game he played he raised the entire defense because his talents covered so much & enabled everyone else to raise their game in their roles. I even took heat after suggesting this on this forum only 1 game in.

— so to all of youse who said I was wrong, suck it !

Steelers would have picked somewhere in the #8 - #12 range with the hopes of getting blue chip talent like Minkah, and with only 3 picks in top 11 this millennium, they haven’t seen too many chances to get one.
Didn't have an issue with the pick as long as they signed him long-term when the time came. Which they did of course.
 
Stop...Texas is a real contender and when they get their QB back I fully expect them to show and prove. Oh, guess what, we welcome them to the SEC (in 2023)!!!

And the last time I checked - 1 point or 100 points is still a win...
Sorry Buddy, Texas was unranked. Period. I've included links whereby teams barely won against ranked teams and STILL dropped. Bama is the darling of college football and it shows with the latest bullshit ranking.


 
I dididn'like it but mainly cause I thought it was time to take a Q which I was right about. However, that said, you aren't getting a better non Q than Fitz in that draft where they would have been and its revisionist to say they would have gotten a quality Q. Like Hebert.
 
I dididn'like it but mainly cause I thought it was time to take a Q which I was right about. However, that said, you aren't getting a better non Q than Fitz in that draft where they would have been and its revisionist to say they would have gotten a quality Q. Like Hebert.
and the only QB worth taking in that slot would have been Jalen Hurts unless we somehow moved wayyyy up

and we could have taken him anyway in the 2nd round instead of Chase Jumppool.

Jordan Love was the last QB taken in the first round... well after our pick swap with the Fish.
 
 
 
and the only QB worth taking in that slot would have been Jalen Hurts unless we somehow moved wayyyy up

and we could have taken him anyway in the 2nd round instead of Chase Jumppool.

Jordan Love was the last QB taken in the first round... well after our pick swap with the Fish.
I don't disagree. However, I don't believe in tanking but also don't believe in lets win 9 at all costs. The Hiebert kid in SD could have been in play if they didn't try to put lipstick on the pig.
 
I don't disagree. However, I don't believe in tanking but also don't believe in lets win 9 at all costs. The Hiebert kid in SD could have been in play if they didn't try to put lipstick on the pig.
that may have been a big trade - likely our entire draft that year, or a 1st, 2nd and 3rd, plus additional picks in later drafts

Draft 2020

Value chart
Pick 6, Chargers - 1600 points in trade value
Our selections, their draft value and who we selected:
18 - 900 pts - traded for Minkah
49 - 410 pts - Chase Claypool
102 - 92 pts - Alex Highsmith
124 - 48 pts - Anthony McFarland
135 - 38.5 - Kevin Dotson

Maybe 1st and 2nd in 2020 and our 2nd in 2021?
then we're out, had we stood pat, Chase Claypool, Pat Freiermuth and whichever guy the Chargers may have taken with Pick 18 in 2020 (Justin Jefferson was taken 4 picks later)

that would have returned us:
Herbert, Highsmith, McFarland, Dotson, Najee in 2021 and we'd still be plagued with Kendrick Green.
 
that may have been a big trade - likely our entire draft that year, or a 1st, 2nd and 3rd, plus additional picks in later drafts

Draft 2020

Value chart
Pick 6, Chargers - 1600 points in trade value
Our selections, their draft value and who we selected:
18 - 900 pts - traded for Minkah
49 - 410 pts - Chase Claypool
102 - 92 pts - Alex Highsmith
124 - 48 pts - Anthony McFarland
135 - 38.5 - Kevin Dotson

Maybe 1st and 2nd in 2020 and our 2nd in 2021?
then we're out, had we stood pat, Chase Claypool, Pat Freiermuth and whichever guy the Chargers may have taken with Pick 18 in 2020 (Justin Jefferson was taken 4 picks later)

that would have returned us:
Herbert, Highsmith, McFarland, Dotson, Najee in 2021 and we'd still be plagued with Kendrick Green.
all things Green are awful and should be killed with fire
 
Hind-sight tells us Minka is the real deal so could-A / should-A / would-A isn't in play here.

He will be in the running for DPOY barring injury to himself or key teammates. (TJ is a key teammate).

I'm glad he is here and glad he is performing well.!

Green is on the roster but inactive and yet Creed Humphry's still plays............................................


Salute the nation
 
that may have been a big trade - likely our entire draft that year, or a 1st, 2nd and 3rd, plus additional picks in later drafts

Draft 2020

Value chart
Pick 6, Chargers - 1600 points in trade value
Our selections, their draft value and who we selected:
18 - 900 pts - traded for Minkah
49 - 410 pts - Chase Claypool
102 - 92 pts - Alex Highsmith
124 - 48 pts - Anthony McFarland
135 - 38.5 - Kevin Dotson

Maybe 1st and 2nd in 2020 and our 2nd in 2021?
then we're out, had we stood pat, Chase Claypool, Pat Freiermuth and whichever guy the Chargers may have taken with Pick 18 in 2020 (Justin Jefferson was taken 4 picks later)

that would have returned us:
Herbert, Highsmith, McFarland, Dotson, Najee in 2021 and we'd still be plagued with Kendrick Green.
Point was if they didn't pullout all the stops to go 8-8 they would have drafted higher than 18.
 
Like most fans I went through 1000 feelings. but I thought they would settle in and win 8-9 games with a chance to make the playoffs

Had Mason not went through the "miles garret" or the "concussion" illegal hit incident,................the STEELERS would have won a Playoff game......................


Salute the nation
 
I still don’t know what bothers me more… Garrett snapping over not sacking Rudolph in a win or Donald clubbing guys in practice… that helmet trend is going to eventually end poorly
 
Like most fans I went through 1000 feelings. but I thought they would settle in and win 8-9 games with a chance to make the playoffs
So there was the year they won 8-9 games coming off a AFC championship home game and there was the possibility of an 8 or 9 win season that year. Very different things. They were probably really a 5 win team that year and should have in the mix for the big fish.
 
So there was the year they won 8-9 games coming off a AFC championship home game and there was the possibility of an 8 or 9 win season that year. Very different things. They were probably really a 5 win team that year and should have in the mix for the big fish.
I am confused on your question/statement. you asked me how I felt about the year Ben went down. I answered that I felt they would win 8-9 games.

what does a afc championship have anything to do with this?

if you are asking me what i thought about the team BEFORE ben went down then yeah I agree with you expectation would have been higher. AFC championship would have been the expectation or more.
 
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