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An Intelligent Organization Would start Rudolph 10/10.

KStilley said:
Let's look at it rationally or at least the way the front office does. If they loose this weekend, they are not throwing in the "terrible towel." They didn't sign BB to sit even if things are bad, if they thought Rudolph could step in and lead us to the playoffs, Ben would be home.

If the following 8 weeks turn into a win or two or if Ben gets injured, go ahead and let Rudy play.

By the way, Colbert and Tomlin need to evaluate allot of people if the season continues as is.
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Colbert should be evaluating Tomlin right now.
 
Sorry but I don't want my team giving up 4 games into the season, even if they were 0-4. I wouldn't even entertain changing Ben until past the midway point of the season and our season is officially dead. No matter how you slice it, if we still have a mathematical chance to get in, Ben gives us the best chance to win and you play him. I would never deliberately play to lose. I guess I'm just not a loser.
 
CoolieMan said:
he has shown absolutely nothing to support that assertion
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So, I guess you're just going to ignore his start against the Browns last season in a game the Browns had to win?

He was benched in 2019 after a couple terrible starts, but his whole body of work that season was not as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

He's flawed, but I do not think he is the total pile of garbage most fans think he is.

He'll likely be their best option in 2022, like it or not.
 
johngaenzler said:
Mason Rudolph is on the team for a reason. He is WAY more mobile than Ben is now and will get rid of the ball immediately to a receiver, unlike Ben who gets rid of it immediately to a running back or the other team. Ben is a Hall of Fame QB and will always be an all-time great Steeler but all he is going to do for us this year is win 2 or 3 more games than Mason and cost us possibly getting rhe QB we need in the draft. If you don’t get that, you don’t know **** about this game and league.
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Get your drunk *** comments outta here. Ben will only win two or three more games than Mason and cost us draft picks? so start Mason and tank the season? Is that what your drunk *** suggested? seriously? and then you say that anyone who doesn't agree with you concerning putting Mason Rudolf in a QB to tank the season doesn't know **** about football or the league? You aren't just a special kind of stupid, you're also an arrogant special kind of stupid. Like when the Jets had the first overall draft pick sewn up last year and then beat the Browns in the second to last game of a meaningless season to hand it over the Jaguars to get one of the most highly touted QB's in years? Yeah...Dumbass.
 
TDX27 said:
Sorry but I don't want my team giving up 4 games into the season, even if they were 0-4. I wouldn't even entertain changing Ben until past the midway point of the season and our season is officially dead. No matter how you slice it, if we still have a mathematical chance to get in, Ben gives us the best chance to win and you play him. I would never deliberately play to lose. I guess I'm just not a loser.
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Obviously, you keep playing Ben as long as the season is competitive, but if they're say 3-9 or something around the last month of the season, I think you have to play Rudolph with an eye on next season.

Regardless of what people feel about Rudolph, there is a high probability of him being the 2022 week one starter.

I don't think he is a long term answer, but I do think fans underrate him a bit and way overrate the Steelers ability to bring in anyone clearly better during the off-season.
 
If they continue to play like this, playing Ben serves no damn purpose. None. It is stupid. You can lose with Rudy or Haskins, too.
 
The situation on offense has the QB set up for failure. Ben, while obviously imperfect, has carried Tomlin most of his career, which seems to me why there was such a half-hearted attempt at bolstering the offensive line. Ben is simply expected to make up for the deficiencies, which are more extreme right now than ever, and his declining skills (arm strength is not one of them) of elusiveness and recognition simply won't allow it. Even considering that, he is still the best QB on the roster. There is nothing to be gained by pulling him before the line improves and stops blowing their assignments, and Canada is then allowed to transition from the old offense into what he actually wants to do. Until the line gets it, this offense is going nowhere, regardless of who is at QB.
 
Punxsutawney said:
Obviously, you keep playing Ben as long as the season is competitive, but if they're say 3-9 or something around the last month of the season, I think you have to play Rudolph with an eye on next season.

Regardless of what people feel about Rudolph, there is a high probability of him being the 2022 week one starter.

I don't think he is a long term answer, but I do think fans underrate him a bit and way overrate the Steelers ability to bring in anyone clearly better during the off-season.
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By the time we reach that point Ben will have been on IR for 2 weeks and Rudy will have joined him because this OL couldn't protect their mom.
 
Punxsutawney said:
Obviously, you keep playing Ben as long as the season is competitive, but if they're say 3-9 or something around the last month of the season, I think you have to play Rudolph with an eye on next season.

Regardless of what people feel about Rudolph, there is a high probability of him being the 2022 week one starter.

I don't think he is a long term answer, but I do think fans underrate him a bit and way overrate the Steelers ability to bring in anyone clearly better during the off-season.
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I absolutely agree at that point, especially this year. If we have a bad season, I think everyone agrees Ben isn't coming back. So, you have to give both Mason and even Haskins at least a game or two each in a real setting to see what they can do - sink or swim. I'm sure Tomlin will only start Rudolph but I'd give them both a chance to start and get some work in this year. If they really suck, you seriously have to look to draft a QB, although this year sucks for QB's unless you want a 6 foot QB. I believe the top 4 QB's right now are all rated way down the overall BPA list and are all 6' or 6'-1", at best. I don't see us drafting a QB this year regardless. If we are that bad this year, it may be OL in the first 2 rounds to build for our future starting QB.
 
And, if this O doesn't get any better, as I said in another post, you fire Canada. So far we are seeing nothing from him. Tomlin needs to nut up and go outside his comfort zone and pick someone outside the team.
 
Badcat said:
Mason Rudolf doesn't have half the Football IQ as Ben, half the arm talent....even at Ben's age, a quarter of Ben's toughness and elusiveness in the pocket, and an 1/8th of presence on the field as Ben...but you ******* want to start him cause...cause...well...cause...He isn't Ben?

Put down the Doobie and let go of the computer mouse. Eat your Cheetos and head up to bed. you ******* are delusional.
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Most of their bedrooms are in the basement...................................





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TDX27 said:
And, if this O doesn't get any better, as I said in another post, you fire Canada. So far we are seeing nothing from him. Tomlin needs to nut up and go outside his comfort zone and pick someone outside the team.
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Maybe, but I don't believe that the fielding of the O-line is the responsibility solely of Canada, in fact, he may have little to do with what he has to work with.
While I agree that it's time for Tomlin to go outside his comfort zone and hire someone that's more intelligent, football wise, than he is, perhaps it also time for Art II to go
outside his comfort zone as well. Had this been done, all the nonsense of benching Ben would likely be moot.
 
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johngaenzler said:
Assuming we lose to Green Bay, it’s basically a forgone conclusion that this team is not making the playoffs. So why would we not use the remainder of the season to conclude whether Mason Rudolph is even potentially Ben’s successor?? The worst-case scenario is actually the desirable scenario in-fact; We lose more games and get a higher draft pick. Best-case scenario; Mason takes some licks from the toughest schedule in the NFL and actually holds his own. Tell me this doesn’t make all the sense in the world…
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This doesn't make all the sense in the world......




There, now you've heard it and have been told it, so move along as there is NO sense in staying in topic.








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TDX27 said:
And, if this O doesn't get any better, as I said in another post, you fire Canada. So far we are seeing nothing from him. Tomlin needs to nut up and go outside his comfort zone and pick someone outside the team.
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I've always advocated outside organization hires. Both DC & OC in the last few years should have been quality hires instead of the same O'l bullshit. It took 10 1st rounders before this "D" became relevent. How many 1st rounders will it take before the offense becomes relevent again............ way after BEN (1/2 a career wasted).

Just my opinion.



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ZonaBurgh said:
Maybe, but I don't believe that the fielding of the O-line is the responsibility solely of Canada, in fact, he may have little to do with what he has to work with.
While I agree that it's time for Tomlin to go outside his comfort zone and hire someone that's more intelligent, football wise, than he is, perhaps it also time for Art II to go
outside his comfort zone as well. Had this been done, all the nonsense of benching Ben would likely be mute.
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But the horrendous play-calling and schemes are all his.
 
this place is gonna be interesting come Sunday evening. I don't have a good feeling about us going to GB. 1-3 in our diviison is going to be tough. esp with our schedule. I don't think it matters much if Ben, Rudy or Joe Montana is behind center. We need to get healthy and start jelling. We did beat Buffalo, so they CAN get it together.
 
Ben is the only way we will can win. I don't think they necessarily need to win this weekend (which would be awesome and we would be 2-2 exactly where most people would have put us at this start of season) ,they just need to play well and show signs of life.

Yes - Ben is 39 but he can't be talked about as MVP (which he was in the discussion after the 11-0 start last season) to washed up in 7 games.

If D is healthy and receivers catch the ball they can compete with anyone.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
All true, however the o-line needs to be able to execute those calls, and they are not.
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Or course they do but the calls are all just like last year so the line is dealing with 8 or 9 men in the box on just about every play. Talk about trial by fire. If the WR's would run the correct routes and catch the balls, that would help as well. Canada should also call a long pass in the first series every game. Ben can still roll out. He's even run for 1st downs. Roll him out to buy some time and throw deep. We need 25+ yard passes in the air at least once in each of our first few series. Whoever has single coverage, you are the man. That and release Muuth down the middle of the field and have Gentry stay in and block. I believe he is a better blocker than Ebron. Or, just use one TE and release Muuth down the middle.
 
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