An NFL-is-rigged Super Bowl prediction

[wig]

It won't matter who wins the SB it will prove the conspiracy true... unless the Steelers win then it's only because the Steelers are so good they couldn't rig it.

Vader Gets It!

(You must spread some reputation before returning it to Vader again...)

 

[Wingman]

Sorry wingman, I just don't buy it.
Especially considering the level that sports journalism and to a larger extent, investigative journalism, has risen to, I seriously doubt such undertakings and misgivings could happen without SOMEONE of reputable record to blow the whistle.

It sounds to me that we are in agreement, Hypothetical, possible, not impossible looks the same to me. I don't have a conspiracy theory just saying it is possible to manipulate things. Your last line is where you loose me, when you invoke journalism and investigative journalism. The level and integrity of that institution has dropped like it was falling from the top of a new york skyscraper in recent years. I see more and more agenda driven reporting that is based on misinformation simply designed to stir the pot.

Now I have some inside information on different things that lead me to believe this, some is classified and some goes back to my years as a police officer. One thing from being a cop and being there vs the person on the street that reads about it in the paper is the big difference between what happened and what was reported to have happened. Based on my experiences there I have no trust in the objectivity or integrity of the press.

I think the best example I can give that would illustrate that which was a national event and not to political or racial to talk about here is the attack on the American embassy that resulted in the death of our ambassador. In a scramble to save face the politicians came up with a lie and said the attack was based on some anti Muslim video which it was clearly not. The lame stream media ran with it and did not stop till way after the event was old news. Very little investigating took place on their part, and it could have been done via open sources in the USA.

I know that is off topic but illustrates my lack of trust or faith in the media while trying not to hit somebody's hot button issues.

 

[Omar10213245]

It sounds to me that we are in agreement, Hypothetical, possible, not impossible looks the same to me. I don't have a conspiracy theory just saying it is possible to manipulate things. Your last line is where you loose me, when you invoke journalism and investigative journalism. The level and integrity of that institution has dropped like it was falling from the top of a new york skyscraper in recent years. I see more and more agenda driven reporting that is based on misinformation simply designed to stir the pot.

Now I have some inside information on different things that lead me to believe this, some is classified and some goes back to my years as a police officer. One thing from being a cop and being there vs the person on the street that reads about it in the paper is the big difference between what happened and what was reported to have happened. Based on my experiences there I have no trust in the objectivity or integrity of the press.

I think the best example I can give that would illustrate that which was a national event and not to political or racial to talk about here is the attack on the American embassy that resulted in the death of our ambassador. In a scramble to save face the politicians came up with a lie and said the attack was based on some anti Muslim video which it was clearly not. The lame stream media ran with it and did not stop till way after the event was old news. Very little investigating took place on their part, and it could have been done via open sources in the USA.

I know that is off topic but illustrates my lack of trust or faith in the media while trying not to hit somebody's hot button issues.

While I agree with the bolded, you'd better believe that ANY investigative body, scrupulous or unscrupulous, wouldn't even think twice about spilling the goods, if that body had absolute and indefensible damning information about the integrity of the NFL's operations. Not a chance in hades that they'd remain hush-hush.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I mean, what has transpired, to ensure that the pats have been able to cover the spread at home for so long? did the commissioner call the owner? the general manager? the coach? was it someone other than the commissioner sanctioning such influence over patriot home games? was there a conference call with all players on the team? And beyond that, what exactly was said between the conspiring parties? What directives were given out? who was put on notice that it's their *** if the pats don't cover the spread? Give some details.

1) the Pats* are still cheating somehow given that their home record is SO much better than their away record and 2) the league likes the team and Brady and the refs have been ordered to give them a few calls or at least it is implied (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) that that is how the league would like things to go.

I seriously doubt such undertakings and misgivings could happen without SOMEONE of reputable record to blow the whistle.

Look, I don't care if you and Vader don't agree with me but I DO think that sometime in the next 10 years or so some official will spill the beans or have a deathbed confession and as long as you unbelievers say "**** me with a spoon, Burgundy was right!" when that happens, I'm good with it and will still love you like brothers.

 

[Wingman]

While I agree with the bolded, you'd better believe that ANY investigative body, scrupulous or unscrupulous, wouldn't even think twice about spilling the goods, if that body had absolute and indefensible damning information about the integrity of the NFL's operations. Not a chance in hades that they'd remain hush-hush.

I believe the investigative body left town, and I do agree they wouldn't think, it is not likely going to generate revenue for them they will leave it alone. That investigative body did not try and dig up anything on the cheatriots or why the evidence was destroyed. Yet we have congressional involvement on concussions and collective bargaining issues that affect less than 5000 people in the USA. They are not after truth and no longer care about it.

 

[Stryker]

If you don't think the highest level of sport can't be corrupt, you must not follow international soccer.

 

[Wingman]

If you don't think the highest level of sport can't be corrupt, you must not follow international soccer.

I don't follow soccer, is that a real sport? I thought they just did that so they could become kickers and punters in the nfl. Just Winging it there? ducking and running.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Amen to all the brethren !!! !! Great discussion on the possibilities of a fix. My views are known and I to don't care if yaz like / dislike, but it is out there. Some here ask for PROOF of it happening, well lets flip the coin, how about PROOF it is not happening. Because it's not public? because the investigative body hasn't said so?, Because you feel it can't be true? Well, maybe its just so clever that it is happening under your noses and running smoothly, with no interruptions. Just a thought.


Salute the nation

 

[Vader]

Amen to all the brethren !!! !! Great discussion on the possibilities of a fix. My views are known and I to don't care if yaz like / dislike, but it is out there. Some here ask for PROOF of it happening, well lets flip the coin, how about PROOF it is not happening. Because it's not public? because the investigative body hasn't said so?, Because you feel it can't be true? Well, maybe its just so clever that it is happening under your noses and running smoothly, with no interruptions. Just a thought.


Salute the nation

You can't prove a negative. The reason conspiracies are difficult to dispute is that everything proves it. Everybody thinks the conspiracy is to help out the pats*. So you'd think the pats* have racked up SBs the past 10 years. But that's not happening. Again ONE call in the Giants SB and they are the only 19-0 team ever. I guess the conspiracy didn't work then? Why not? IF Goodall is willing to risk the entire NFL business over helping the pats* then why in the hell didn't the refs make ONE call? That's why the conspiracy theory is so ignorant. It takes a position that the commish is risking the entire NFL to help a certain team but then when it has a chance to really help them nothing happens. But I'm sure people will come up with a reason why he didn't help the very team he is committing fraud to help.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Awesome Post Vader, I can't dispute your word EITHER. Have a great day.



Salute the nation

 

[Omar10213245]

1) the Pats* are still cheating somehow given that their home record is SO much better than their away record and 2) the league likes the team and Brady and the refs have been ordered to give them a few calls or at least it is implied (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) that that is how the league would like things to go.



Look, I don't care if you and Vader don't agree with me but I DO think that sometime in the next 10 years or so some official will spill the beans or have a deathbed confession and as long as you unbelievers say "**** me with a spoon, Burgundy was right!" when that happens, I'm good with it and will still love you like brothers.

I will say those very words

 

[Wingman]

I'll leave out the part about the spoon.

 

[Drink IRON City]

How close were those words, the other night? Spank me with a spoon, **** me with something else I'm not kiss and tell, but I went along, even with out "PROOF" !!!!


This conspiracy is what it is. There are arguments as to both ways, either could be right. If that isn't acknowledged, then there is no reasoning left. Either way, I'm OK with what ever anyone stands for. My opinion is mine and I respect the others here who have stated theirs. When the HAMMER is dropped and the information does fly, I only hope, those who remember this, are hearing those famous words in bold.



Salute the nation

 

[sullysezso71]

Remembering how bad nfl fans wanted Elway to win the Lombardi, how the announcers talked all game long how magical it would be to see Elway go to the superbowl, then watch as they magically drove down the field with the help of those mystical zebras and beat the steelers in the afc championship game.I think we all can agree who Mr. Goodell would like to see in the big game...

 

[Vader]

Remembering how bad nfl fans wanted Elway to win the Lombardi, how the announcers talked all game long how magical it would be to see Elway go to the superbowl, then watch as they magically drove down the field with the help of those mystical zebras and beat the steelers in the afc championship game.I think we all can agree who Mr. Goodell would like to see in the big game...

LOL so the announcers are in on it as well? Goodell wasn't even around when Denver beat the Steelers that year. Also did the zebras force Kordell into throwing 3 picks? Some people just believe anything. Also please tell me who is winning the SB this year since "we can all agree". I'm assuming you're putting all your money on it right... since you know it right?

 

[Omar10213245]

Remembering how bad nfl fans wanted Elway to win the Lombardi, how the announcers talked all game long how magical it would be to see Elway go to the superbowl, then watch as they magically drove down the field with the help of those mystical zebras and beat the steelers in the afc championship game.I think we all can agree who Mr. Goodell would like to see in the big game...

So its up to Goodell? He a Bronco fan now, is he?...I thought he was a Patriots fan....or was it (prior to this season) the Ravens? Hmmmm...What about the owners??

Lol this is one of the more enjoyable threads on this board in a long time.

 

[Vader]

So its up to Goodell? He a Bronco fan now, is he?...I thought he was a Patriots fan....or was it (prior to this season) the Ravens? Hmmmm...What about the owners??

Lol this is one of the more enjoyable threads on this board in a long time.

You just don't understand how it works.... see whoever wins proves the conspiracy. Hell everybody knows that John Elway couldn't beat Kordell Stewart on his own.. he needs a ton of help. That's why the refs forced Kordell to throw all those picks.

 

[Punxsutawney]

I always thought it was genius how the league scripted that super awesome 43-8 beatdown the Prince of the NFL Peyton Manning experienced last February.

It created a great story arc for 2014 where Peyton must overcome the trauma of that defeat to win it all this time.

Really puts Hollywood to shame.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Also did the zebras force Kordell into throwing 3 picks?

No, Kordell was perfectly capable of throwing 3 picks on his own with no help from the refs.

Also please tell me who is winning the SB this year since "we can all agree". I'm assuming you're putting all your money on it right... since you know it right?

Steelers, but only because they got good enough to overcome the system. As long as everyone stays healthy. If I was betting real money on the fix right now I'd say the SB ends up being Denver v. Dallas.

 

[Punxsutawney]

No, Kordell was perfectly capable of throwing 3 picks on his own with no help from the refs.


Steelers, but only because they got good enough to overcome the system. As long as everyone stays healthy. If I was betting real money on the fix right now I'd say the SB ends up being Denver v. Dallas.

One would think the league would have fixed one or two Super Bowl appearances for "America's Team" over the past 18 seasons, or, at the very least, more than one playoff win during that span.

 

[obxsteeler]

Why does anyone who really believes this watch?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

One would think the league would have fixed one or two Super Bowl appearances for "America's Team" over the past 18 seasons, or, at the very least, more than one playoff win during that span.

You can't give them that much help without it being obvious. Some things you just can't fix. Like I said, it's little favors here and there.

 

[Vader]

You can't give them that much help without it being obvious. Some things you just can't fix. Like I said, it's little favors here and there.

You can't give them ONE do over on a botched XP? Or is that too obvious? Isn't any bad call obvious? Little favors? Too who? And why? Does this come from Goodell to the refs working the game? You realize that ONE guy coming out with proof of this will kill the greatest sport in the history of the U.S? He's willing to risk hundreds of billions of dollars for a group of refs to "maybe" help a team that he likes? WOW... just WOW.

 

[steel pirate]

Why does anyone who really believes this watch?

It's still good entertainment.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I dunno, did we see a fix today, on that Michael Vick fumble? Everyone no planet earth saw it was a fumble. The announcers saw it. Mike Carey said it was a fumble. And lo and behold New York said no fumble.

Eerily reminiscent of Troy's INT of Manning in Indy in the 2005 playoff run...a play so obvious the world could see it, but the NFL inexplicably over rules it.

It's calls like these...