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At least 8 Dead in Indianapolis FEDEX Facility Shooting

Here’s a picture of the FedEx mass shooter, Brandon Scott Hole, who massacred 8 innocent Americans, next to a gallery of the deadliest, most notorious American mass shooters + domestic terrorists of the last 20+ years.

See if you can notice a trend. Take your time.


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I notice the picture is cherry picked to exclude black and Asian shooters. It propaganda.
 
interesting, isn't it? All of sudden, we have multiple mass shootings almost on a weekly basis and Biden will further push his gun control agenda. Like clockwork.
That’s what it is. A story to get Americans to buy into gun control.

Rather than gun control. Help out programs/increase effectiveness of people who are mentally unstable/angry.

the shrinks are doing something wrong because their patients tend to remain angry and carry out violence. Guns are not the issue. Only to democrats
 
When a senior officer gets choked up and has difficulty discussing a shooting, something they've seen far too much of, you know how traumatized even the police are getting. America has become a disturbed nation in a war zone, and this has been escalating for decades. :(


Yes we have some mentally disturbed people. Whether it’s in the processed foods, the ease of access to drugs. I grew up in the ghetto per se, I know how easy it is to access to street drugs, prescriptions etc. Especially prescriptions.

But it is not a gun violence. Law abiding Americans shouldn’t have to give up their guns cause the government thinks guns are the issue.
 
100% this. Mental health in this nation is a huge problem. Has been for a while. I can't remember who it was, Tim Steelersfan I think, posted a list of mass shooters a couple years back and I think all of them had sought mental health treatment and had been put on some kind of psychotropic drug prior to committing mass murder. We have very few doctors in America that actually practice medicine anymore. Most of them just throw some pills at the patient so they can move on to the next patient. It's like a factory, in and out.

Add to that all the added stress this pandemic has put on people for the reasons you listed above, and I think it will be decades before we come to terms with the damage we have done psychologically to some people.
It’s going to be hard to fix this for a few years, but we do need programs where these deep seeded issues can be addressed. Getting into a psyche of someone is tough, but figuring out their reasons/subconscious triggers would help.

Adulthood can be stressful. Working the 9-5, bills, social expectations etc. Not everyone is cut out for that type of rat race. There are alternatives, trades, certifications.

I feel a lot of these shooters fall into a either too smart spectrum where they are really smart but their brain is bored from living and they seek a more thrilling stimuli. Stephen Paddock comes to mind. Didnt he work at lockheed martin or something like that?

Another like you said is prescription drugs which alters the brain. There is a certain stress that builds up whether it’s due to school, work, family/friends or lack there of. These people don’t have a healthy outlet to let out thoughts and steam
 
Nope, wrong answer. But law enforcement should double-down and refocus its attention & resources on confronting this constant & growing threat. Stop beating around the bush. Call a spade a spade. Amplify and prioritize mental health screenings, tighten background checks, close loopholes and limit easy access to weapons and high caliber ammuniton.

The FBI is already doing this, repeatedly stating domestic, home-grown terrorism is the biggest threat facing the nation today.

There is a problem here staring us in the face. The sooner we realize it, the better the chances of understanding it and reducing the threat to innocent victims around the
country.

And it's not just unhinged white men. It's not an exclusive club based on race alone. But the profile that's emerged over the past 15-20 years of the cold-blooded lunatic willing & able to go out and randomly murder people in these high casualty events cannot be - and shouldn't be - ignored.
It goes both ways Tibs.

The left hides behind excuses to justify their actions to avoid consequences.

is there racism? Absolutely. White people are not the perpetrators however.
 
It goes both ways Tibs.

The left hides behind excuses to justify their actions to avoid consequences.

is there racism? Absolutely. White people are not the perpetrators however.
Something to realize Tibs is people in position of power tend to develop an ego to where they take advantage of of people. Our government is about as corrupt as they are. Whites, blacks, hispanics all have lower class people who resort to crime to survive, because whites make up the majority of the population stats tend to look like whites are at fault.

There are very few...the 1% per se who have us shackled. Our taxes pay for those who should be helping us, instead they push a quick fix and push an agenda to stay in power.

We have a lot of struggling citizens whether it’s mentally/financially and often times those correlate. It’s more of a power issue rather than a race issue. Sometimes it seems the government wants it’s citizens to dislike and not trust each other and right now they are doing a damn fine job.

America was founded on the belief of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness and whether your white, black, straight, gay etc. You have those freedoms to live without persecution.

Now when you radicalize your way of living. Look at the far left, look at the alt right. Then it creates division.
 
There are mass murders in Chicago every weekend. Every ******* weekend. And has been that way for years. But it doesn't fit the narrative that people like Tibs is pushing.
War zones. Chicago, Baltimore, D.C., Detroit,L.A. All long time democrat run shitholes. Crazy unconstitutional gun restrictions in many. What does it do? Not a damn thing. Criminals don't care about laws. They will continue to slaughter each other like cattle.

The only target is disarming the law abiding population. The trained citizens. A high end target for them to deem scary would be combat veterans. They could easily say trained killers are a threat and should be disarmed.

They haven't had the balls to say it yet,but I guarantee they're high on the list .

All they accomplish is massive firearms sales, ammo stockpiling and many boating accidents.
 

Gunman in Indianapolis FedEx shooting used two legally purchased assault rifles, police say​


INDIANAPOLIS — The 19-year-old gunman who fatally shot eight people at a FedEx plant Thursday used two legally purchased assault rifles, police said Saturday, raising new questions as many call for tighter restrictions on powerful firearms and more safeguards on who can own them.

Police said the shooter, a former employee at the facility, bought rifles legally last July and September — months after his mother said she feared her son would attempt “suicide by cop.” That led authorities to question Brandon Hole, temporarily detain him for mental health reasons and seize his shotgun. The gun was not returned, officials say.

Yet Hole went on to obtain more firearms, despite Indiana’s red-flag law aimed at keeping such weapons out of the hands of potentially dangerous people. Under that law, a measure adopted and debated in many states, officials can confiscate someone’s weapon and then argue to a judge that the person should be prevented for some time from having a gun. Indianapolis police said Saturday night that they cannot say why Hole was not barred from purchasing the weapons under red-flag laws or whether authorities had pursued it.

The attack Hole carried out Thursday night — the sixth mass shooting in the United States in the past five weeks — has anguished communities that are once again calling for action to stop such violent assaults, which have targeted offices, stores, places of worship, movie theaters, nightclubs, colleges and grade schools.
 

Gunman in Indianapolis FedEx shooting used two legally purchased assault rifles, police say​


INDIANAPOLIS — The 19-year-old gunman who fatally shot eight people at a FedEx plant Thursday used two legally purchased assault rifles, police said Saturday, raising new questions as many call for tighter restrictions on powerful firearms and more safeguards on who can own them.

Police said the shooter, a former employee at the facility, bought rifles legally last July and September — months after his mother said she feared her son would attempt “suicide by cop.” That led authorities to question Brandon Hole, temporarily detain him for mental health reasons and seize his shotgun. The gun was not returned, officials say.

Yet Hole went on to obtain more firearms, despite Indiana’s red-flag law aimed at keeping such weapons out of the hands of potentially dangerous people. Under that law, a measure adopted and debated in many states, officials can confiscate someone’s weapon and then argue to a judge that the person should be prevented for some time from having a gun. Indianapolis police said Saturday night that they cannot say why Hole was not barred from purchasing the weapons under red-flag laws or whether authorities had pursued it.

The attack Hole carried out Thursday night — the sixth mass shooting in the United States in the past five weeks — has anguished communities that are once again calling for action to stop such violent assaults, which have targeted offices, stores, places of worship, movie theaters, nightclubs, colleges and grade schools.
Lets do that by ending "Gun Free Zones" and allowing people to protect themselves not by restricting the rights of lawful gun owners. Anything else is just a step towards civilian disarmament.
 
Lets do that by ending "Gun Free Zones" and allowing people to protect themselves not by restricting the rights of lawful gun owners. Anything else is just a step towards civilian disarmament.

You'll likely be interested in this. Check 'em out, there may be an event near you soon. (y)

 
You'll likely be interested in this. Check 'em out, there may be an event near you soon. (y)


I might be.

I am more interested in that than I am being disarmed when leftist asshats like you are cheering on political violence by AntiFa and BLM.
 
In March 2021, after two deadly U.S. shootings — the first involving the killings of eight people in Atlanta, Georgia, the second involving the killing of 10 people in Boulder, Colorado — messages started circulating on social media claiming that mass shootings had “resumed” under U.S. President Joe Biden after they had all but disappeared under former Republican U.S. President Donald Trump.

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Some social media users took this claim a step further, positing that these mass shootings were “false flag” attacks staged by liberals in order to push gun-control legislation.

The claim that there were no mass shootings under Trump is simply false. In fact, the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history took place during the Trump era. In October 2017, a gunman shot and killed nearly 60 people at a music festival in Las Vegas. While not an exhaustive list of every mass shooting that took place during the Trump administration, here are some of the deadliest incidents while Trump was in office:

Trump, of course, was not the first president to see a mass shooting take place during his time in office. The Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newton, Connecticut (27 victims), the Pulse Nightclub shooting in Orlando, Florida (49 victims), and the movie theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado (12 victims) all took place during former Democratic President Barack Obama’s term.

One reason why it might “feel” as if there were no mass shootings under Trump is that for the past year, as many businesses and public gathering spaces closed due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. had no large-scale shootings in public spaces. In March 2021, when the United States saw two deadly shootings within a week of another, it felt as if mass shootings had “resumed.” Although some social media users attempted to connect these shootings to a change in leadership, it’s clear from the aforementioned incidents that these deadly mass shootings have taken place under both Democratic and Republican leadership.

The pandemic may have temporarily prevented large-scale mass shootings in public spaces, but it didn’t put an end to gun violence. In fact, the Gun Violence Archive found the gun violence increased during the pandemic. The New York Times reported:

Until Tuesday, when eight people were killed in Atlanta-area spas, it had been a year since there had been a large-scale shooting in a public place.
[…]
Still, other types of gun violence increased significantly in 2020, according to Gun Violence Archive, which researches shootings. There were more than 600 shootings in which four or more people were shot by one person compared with 417 in 2019.
Many of those shootings involved gang violence, fights and domestic incidents, where the perpetrator knew the victims, Professor Peterson said. The early research suggests that widespread unemployment, financial stress, a rise in drug and alcohol addiction, and a lack of access to community resources caused by the pandemic contributed to the increase in shootings in 2020.
No skin in the game here. I looked this up because I starting thinking about some of the comments on here about mass murders basically not taking place under the Trump Administration. Those up top are just a few examples. Happens in all Administrations. Had to call bullshit.
 
No skin in the game here. I looked this up because I starting thinking about some of the comments on here about mass murders basically not taking place under the Trump Administration. Those up top are just a few examples. Happens in all Administrations. Had to call bullshit.

Great post, Steelmann, thanks for helping set the record straight on this. (y)
 
Tibs, if the desired effect of your posts is to have us try to rid society of guns, you failed. The only logical response is not to rid society from guns, but to identify issues in the shootings, then address those issues - mental health, gun-free zones, idealistic wishes of liberals, Muslims having guns, etc.

It is impossible to rid society of guns. Most "gun free" nations have them in the hands of a few, and I am not referring to military and police, but private power brokers. This idea of "gun removal" - made very popular by thinkers like Hitler- has not stopped gun crime, but put honest citizens at a known disadvantage to gun owners.

It's just a bad idea.

When you have guns, or any weapon, and fallen humans (the only type available), there are issues. We have to learn to do as much as we can, and understand that guns are not the problem. Humanity is the problem.

I guess the question is - what weapon do you prefer to have people kill each other with? Killing won't stop because a weapon is removed from a society - which is impossible anyway.
 
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The fact of the matter is, the Indianapolis shooter was able to buy his murder weapons legally, even though he had been deemed a danger to himself and others. We need laws in this country that will do a better job of keeping guns away from lunatics.

The assault weapons ban worked. Gun massacres dropped by 37% during the 10-year period of the ban. Then, when it lapsed in 2004, mass shootings increased by 183%, resulting in a 239% increase in deaths.

The idea that we can't do anything to address this situation - all the while respecting the rights of responsible gun owners - is wrong and self-defeating.

Seems some of you are perfectly content with sitting back and watching the country turn into a warzone - streets dripping in blood of innocents - and continue counting the bodies as they pile up. I'm not.
 
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The government dropped the ball in this case. No need to punish law abiding citizens.
 
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The fact of the matter is, the Indianapolis shooter was able to buy his murder weapons legally, even though he had been deemed a danger to himself and others. We need laws in this country that will do a better job of keeping guns away from lunatics.

The assault weapons ban worked. Gun massacres dropped by 37% during the 10-year period of the ban. Then, when it lapsed in 2004, mass shootings increased by 183%, resulting in a 239% increase in deaths.

The idea that we can't do anything to address this situation - all the while respecting the rights of responsible gun owners - is wrong and self-defeating.

Seems some of you are perfectly content with sitting back and watching the country turn into a warzone - streets dripping in blood of innocents - and continue counting the bodies as they pile up. I'm not.
How are you to label a lunatic?
If I were to go into a liberal crowd and call someone bat **** crazy I would be called a “insert phobia here”.

Now when the shoe is on the other foot it’s ok for the left to call someone a lunatic.

Not one of us here like to see our communities turned into war zones. Selling guns legally is not turning communities into war zones. Yes, I agree a more thorough background check should of been done in purchasing of said guns. A killer is a killer despite the weapon used. A gun, knife, sword a spoon for christ sakes.
 
A killer is a killer despite the weapon used. A gun, knife, sword a spoon for christ sakes.

You can't possibly believe that. An unhinged madman walking into a grocery store or a concert hall with a sword, a knife or even pistol, would be able to do the type of damage an AR15 can, in such a short amount of time? Come on.
 
When will this madness end?

From a few hours ago:

BREAKING: 3 killed, 2 injured in yet another mass shooting this time at a tavern in Kenosha, Wisconsin.


From a few minutes ago:




Sadly, it seems this graph would work perfectly well not with 4 digits, or 3 digits or even 2 digits. America is a full-on warzone.

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In March 2021, after two deadly U.S. shootings — the first involving the killings of eight people in Atlanta, Georgia, the second involving the killing of 10 people in Boulder, Colorado — messages started circulating on social media claiming that mass shootings had “resumed” under U.S. President Joe Biden after they had all but disappeared under former Republican U.S. President Donald Trump.

Text, File, Advertisement

Some social media users took this claim a step further, positing that these mass shootings were “false flag” attacks staged by liberals in order to push gun-control legislation.

The claim that there were no mass shootings under Trump is simply false. In fact, the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history took place during the Trump era. In October 2017, a gunman shot and killed nearly 60 people at a music festival in Las Vegas. While not an exhaustive list of every mass shooting that took place during the Trump administration, here are some of the deadliest incidents while Trump was in office:

Trump, of course, was not the first president to see a mass shooting take place during his time in office. The Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newton, Connecticut (27 victims), the Pulse Nightclub shooting in Orlando, Florida (49 victims), and the movie theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado (12 victims) all took place during former Democratic President Barack Obama’s term.

One reason why it might “feel” as if there were no mass shootings under Trump is that for the past year, as many businesses and public gathering spaces closed due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. had no large-scale shootings in public spaces. In March 2021, when the United States saw two deadly shootings within a week of another, it felt as if mass shootings had “resumed.” Although some social media users attempted to connect these shootings to a change in leadership, it’s clear from the aforementioned incidents that these deadly mass shootings have taken place under both Democratic and Republican leadership.

The pandemic may have temporarily prevented large-scale mass shootings in public spaces, but it didn’t put an end to gun violence. In fact, the Gun Violence Archive found the gun violence increased during the pandemic. The New York Times reported:


No skin in the game here. I looked this up because I starting thinking about some of the comments on here about mass murders basically not taking place under the Trump Administration. Those up top are just a few examples. Happens in all Administrations. Had to call bullshit.
Although your correct with this post, it does look like we're going to surpass the number of mass shootings within 6 months under Biden's watch.
 
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