Baltimore Police Department

[Troglodyte]

I said earlier that Pittsburgh is relatively safe compared to most big cities but I know you don't read very well.

The current and previous mayors are undoing a lot of what Rudy fixed. It won't take long.

You and Steel Chip sort out whether or not Pittsburgh is safe or not.

It’s been 16 years since Giuliani was mayor, and NYC crime rates have declined since then. You’re making up **** you want to believe.

 

[IndySteel]

Flogtard, you Really think it’s the libs who are tough on crime? Holy ****, give me a break.

 

[SteelChip]

You and Steel Chip sort out whether or not Pittsburgh is safe or not.
.

Indy and I got nothing to sort out, the people that live there can do that for themselves. Like any city, there are areas that are not conducive to safe passage and areas that are. I believe any long term resident is well aware of where they are. From all the reports I saw, the 'no go' areas are not dwindling as you say but strengthening in size and numbers a little more each passing year.

This advancement of crime is IMO at least partly due to the decline of family values and the advancement of social justice advocacy's and attitudes...both results of Liberal positions and demands.

In many big cities, where the limit on crime is the presence of the police (as opposed to family members, watchful neighbors, and the like, who limit crime elsewhere), more officers on the streets or in the subways means fewer criminals who dare to act. But in courtrooms, most accused criminals go free because the system cannot afford to have it any other way. Everyone involved in the criminal courts is overtaxed, from the policemen, who must take time off the beat to testify, to the prosecutors, who need to dispose of cases as quickly as possible, to the judges, who know as they make their sentencing decisions that the prisons are already overcrowded. The result of this pressure is the plea-bargain, in which a man who faces, for example, a ten-year sentence with a three-year minimum term if convicted of armed robbery will instead plead guilty to grand larceny and end up serving one year in jail.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

So Pittsburgh is a cesspool? Amazon and LG don’t seem to think so. Neither do all the rankings that consistently have Pittsburgh as one of the most livable cities in the country.

School is in.

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/c...-FBI-statistics-national/stories/201709270169

Pittsburgh saw more violent crime in 2016 than 2015 with increases in reported robberies, rapes and aggravated assaults, according to data released Monday by the FBI.

The city’s overall violent crime increased by about 9 percent in 2016. Reported robberies increased by 17 percent, rapes by 22 percent and aggravated assaults by 3 percent, according to the FBI’s data, which the agency collects from police departments across the country and releases annually.

Murders in Pittsburgh remained flat, with 57 people killed in both 2015 and 2016.

http://www.areavibes.com/pittsburgh-pa/crime/

The above illustration depicts the number of crimes committed daily in Pittsburgh, PA per 100,000 residents. Additionally, daily crime statistics are also listed for Pennsylvania as well as national figures. In Pittsburgh, PA the total number of daily crimes is 1.96 times more than the Pennsylvania average and 1.43 times more than the national average. Violent crime statistics in Pittsburgh, PA are 2.47 times more than the Pennsylvania average and 2.03 times more than the national average. Regarding crimes committed against personal property, Pittsburgh, PA has a daily crime rate that is 1.87 times more than the Pennsylvania average and 1.33 times more than the daily national average.

School is out.

And for those of you trying to argue anecdotally that Baltimore "ain't" that bad...good Lord, I also live in MD. Factually (facts people, just damned facts) it is a bad, bad hood. One of the worst in the NATION. Ranked #6 in violent crime. Yeah, it ain't that bad cuz my momma says so. SMH.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/10/22/violent-crime-statistics-for-every-city-in-america/

There are 76 cities with more than 250,000 people in the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report.

Big Cities With The Highest Violent Crime Rates

Detroit, Michigan 1988.63
Memphis, Tennessee 1740.51
Oakland, California 1685.39
St. Louis, Missouri 1678.73
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1476.41
Baltimore, Maryland 1338.54
Cleveland, Ohio 1334.35
Stockton, California 1331.47
Indianapolis, Indiana 1254.66
Kansas City, Missouri 1251.45

 

[Troglodyte]

Flogtard, you Really think it’s the libs who are tough on crime? Holy ****, give me a break.

All those liberal, socialist European countries you guys like to roll your eyes at enjoy lower crime rates than the U.S.

 

[IndySteel]

All those liberal, socialist European countries you guys like to roll your eyes at enjoy lower crime rates than the U.S.

Lower than Chicago. Gary, Detroit, NYC and LA...yeah those republican strongholds.

 

[Troglodyte]

School is in.

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/c...-FBI-statistics-national/stories/201709270169



http://www.areavibes.com/pittsburgh-pa/crime/



School is out.

And for those of you trying to argue anecdotally that Baltimore "ain't" that bad...good Lord, I also live in MD. Factually (facts people, just damned facts) it is a bad, bad hood. One of the worst in the NATION. Ranked #6 in violent crime. Yeah, it ain't that bad cuz my momma says so. SMH.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/10/22/violent-crime-statistics-for-every-city-in-america/

Albuquerque, Miami, Oklahoma City and Tulsa all have higher violent crime rates than Pittsburgh, all have Republican mayors. Go back to school.

 

[hamster]

All those liberal, socialist European countries you guys like to roll your eyes at enjoy lower crime rates than the U.S.

It has been true, mainly due to the low incidence of unwed, welfare moms.That is rapidly changing, with the influx of 3rd world cretins.

 

[jitter77]

That's a terrible chart. Does not say what "crime rate entails". Is that crimes per year and what year or years does it pertain too?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Albuquerque, Miami, Oklahoma City and Tulsa all have higher violent crime rates than Pittsburgh, all have Republican mayors. Go back to school.

Have I made the argument that it's Democratic leadership? Nope. Typical Flog, confusing my arguments with others. You attempted to obfuscate the argument on the table that Pittsburgh is dangerous by saying "So Pittsburgh is a cesspool? Amazon and LG don’t seem to think so. Neither do all the rankings that consistently have Pittsburgh as one of the most livable cities in the country." I'm merely validating their claims with facts that Pittsburgh is in fact dangerous as they claimed. And validating the claim that Baltimore is a violent city.

It's non-arguable, but then again that old saying, Liberals and Facts don't mix.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

That's a terrible chart. Does not say what "crime rate entails". Is that crimes per year and what year or years does it pertain too?

Try clicking on the link associated with the chart. The FBI stats are explained.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

another factor to be considered is the way crime is policed and reported by conservatives vs liberals. When liberals are in charge they tend to instruct the police to ignore "small" crimes which to liberals tends to be anything short of somebody getting shot. They also tend to under report in their statistics, considering a mugging as non-violent, etc.

That's the case in NYC. If you've been there recently, you know there's no way crime is down. Their communist mayor has simply stop the police from enforcing laws, so you have vandalism, people sleeping on streets, delivery trucks double parked and stopping traffic. Crime may be down on paper but not in real life.

You tend to get more accurate crime stats from conservative led areas because they have the police more active therefore they are logging more incidents that are ignored in liberal jurisdictions.

Liberals tend to think they are successful at crime fighting if they can make stats look good and if under their watch they can lower the amount of minority arrests.

Conservatives tend to go more by whether you feel safe walking down the streets and if there's not bums pissing on the sidewalk and vandalism all over the place.

 

[Stryker]

I walk and drive a lot of Pittsburgh. I haven't seen a bad neighborhood yet. What are the bad areas? I know some people point to Mt Oliver, but my Pit director lives and works there, and he's had no issue, and neither have I when I'm there on visits.

Just had a lovely second Thanksgiving with my mother, her boyfriend and their children/friends, in downtown Baltimore. We had a great night.

I feel comfortable walking Balt and Pit. Though I did live near Philly for 13 years, and did not feel nearly as safe in that city or NYC as I do in Balt and Pit.

 

[Stryker]

Again, there are no elected Republicans in Baltimore city government and haven't been for a long long time. When a city has been run for decades by Democrats you get Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, New Orleans, any number of crime and corruption ridden shitholes you care to name. Pittsburgh is a relatively safe city but a number of people in the Federal government have said it's the most corrupt city they've seen.

I hear you Ron, I suppose you have to take the good with the bad if you're choosing sides with politics. The positives of Baltimore, Harbor east and the revamping of Fells and Canton so you can now walk from the Inner Harbor to Canton on 7 miles of waterfront walkway called the Waterfront Promenade. Not to mention the improvements to transportation with the Light Rail, Balt Metro Subway, and Water Taxi expansions.

Progress can happen with any party, and the problem with politics, is the inability to see or accept positives from the other party.

 

[MTC]

I hear you Ron, I suppose you have to take the good with the bad if you're choosing sides with politics. The positives of Baltimore, Harbor east and the revamping of Fells and Canton so you can now walk from the Inner Harbor to Canton on 7 miles of waterfront walkway called the Waterfront Promenade. Not to mention the improvements to transportation with the Light Rail, Balt Metro Subway, and Water Taxi expansions.

Progress can happen with any party, and the problem with politics, is the inability to see or accept positives from the other party.

Both parties need to accept the fact that we're all American regardless of political affiliation.
Like you Cope, I have a centrist approach to politics, but I do vote republican.

Not saying Democrats don't try for the poor/working class. Both parties have reps who do.
The Dems fringe liberal group exposes less educated, bad neighborhoods and dangles a steak to push their "progress"

Sadly the good Dems don't have a say, which is why you're starting to see a lot more people leaning towards a conservative approach.
Albuquerque has a similar structure to Baltimore. Bad areas, corrupt police presence, etc.

So I get it. We have good and bad here. Albuquerque citizens are finally seeing past the BS. Sadly our reps in power refuse to grow outward

 

[hamster]

I walk and drive a lot of Pittsburgh. I haven't seen a bad neighborhood yet. What are the bad areas?.

You need to get out more often..........

Homewood
Northview Heights
Wilkensburg
McKeesport
Sheridan
Hill District
Beltzhoover
Duquense
Arlington
Mt Oliver
Central Northside
McKees Rocks

East Liberty used to be bad, but the recent business development there have pushed people into Homewood and Wilkensburg. St Clair Village was so bad, they bulldozed the whole mess.

I lived in the Balto-Wash corridor for 10 years back in the 80's. Baltimore scared me then, a lot worse than DC.

 

[Troglodyte]

Have I made the argument that it's Democratic leadership? Nope. Typical Flog, confusing my arguments with others. You attempted to obfuscate the argument on the table that Pittsburgh is dangerous by saying "So Pittsburgh is a cesspool? Amazon and LG don’t seem to think so. Neither do all the rankings that consistently have Pittsburgh as one of the most livable cities in the country." I'm merely validating their claims with facts that Pittsburgh is in fact dangerous as they claimed.

Have it your way, Tim Cesspoolfan.

Obfuscation is picking and choosing what you are and aren’t arguing after the fact.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Can any one name an inner city you would want to live in?

I can't, but than't just me.

 

[BLITZ]

I think Baltimore is not as bad as you would imagine. other than the occasional dude that wants to was your car windows, you are pretty much left alone My business takes me to the Inner Harbor area quite often. no issues day or night. I know there are certain areas that you avoid after night, but all of Baltimore is not like that.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Can any one name an inner city you would want to live in?

I can't, but than't just me.

I would personally never live in an inner city. It's not my style. If I had to, these are places I would (keeping in mind that every inner city has good and bad hoods, just like every county does):

DC (yep, parts of NW DC are stunning, especially around Embassy Row)
Dallas
Seattle
Boston
Miami
San Diego

 

[Troglodyte]

Can any one name an inner city you would want to live in?

I can't, but than't just me.

My wife and I are thinking about moving to Pittsburgh as downsizing empty nesters - 10 years from now. Probably one of the neighborhoods but possibly dahntahn.

 

[Buster]

Where do you live now?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Can any one name an inner city you would want to live in?

I can't, but than't just me.

Pittsburgh but then it's laid out differently than most big cities. The Downtown area proper is very safe but then relatively few people actually live there. However Pittsburgh is a "city of neighborhoods" and there is....

Homewood
Northview Heights
Wilkensburg
McKeesport
Sheridan
Hill District
Beltzhoover
Duquense
Arlington
Mt Oliver
Central Northside
McKees Rocks

Years ago when I worked at AGH our softball league used to play at the Northview Heights field, until we didn't.

 

[Supersteeler]

I wouldn't consider moving into a big city if an employer offered to double my salary. I'd thank them for the offer and promptly turn it down. Money isn't everything and it certainly doesn't solve any problems.....I just need enough to get by and anything on top of that is gravy. I wouldn't sacrifice my happiness to make more than I need and I'll gladly keep my small town problems/issues.

 

[Djfan]

I would personally never live in an inner city. It's not my style. If I had to, these are places I would (keeping in mind that every inner city has good and bad hoods, just like every county does):

San Diego

I grew up in San Diego. It used to be nice. Now it's an inner city crap hole. Not a chance in heck I would move back. I have a buddy who owns a company that makes military stuff. He is making large dollars. He called me about a year ago to move there and work with him. I told him that I would have to make large enough money to live in the very good areas. I never heard back.

There are only about 500k people in Wyoming. Why on God's green Earth would I leave this to go to a place where there are that many people on my freeway with me?

No and Hell no. Never. Ain't happening.