Bell is a greedy, stupid idiot....

[slashsteel]

Florio is what he has always been. A tool a idiot and a maroon.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Folio is stateing opinions........HOW the **** does he know the STEELERS leaked information and then precisely enough to turn people against Bell????? Bottom line is Bell turned down an offer, hasn't signed the Fran tag, hasn't showed up to work, knocked a cheerleader up and then wonders why his reputation is in shambles................. This whole situation can be spun in a lot of directions but the bottom line are the three facts, NO sign offer, NO sign Fran tag, NO show up for work. Simple math and that alone can tarnish a great running back yet alone a drug test failure oft injured great running back.




Salute the nation

 

[kev4heels]

Steelers are to blame for Le’Veon Bell’s supposed image problem

Mike Florio
13 hours ago

The Steelers enjoy, in most cases, a relationship with their players that entails the team telling the players how it’s going to be, and the players who still want to be Steelers going along with it. Running back Le’Veon Bell bucked that trend, the Steelers didn’t like it, the Steelers made him look bad in the process, and now apparently the fans will be turning on him.


That last part comes from a recent article by Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, which quotes a reputation consultant from California (who knows the people of Pittsburgh like someone from California?) as declaring, “I think [Bell] has inflicted damage on his reputation.”

What follows from this California reputation consultant is a lot of the same-old predictable “fans resent players because they’re rich” nonsense, capped with the scorchingest of takes: “This is a critical test in a critical time for Le’Veon. It’s a very big threat to do these types of things and risk the rant of the core of what ultimately pays your paycheck. The fans are the owners at the end of the day. The fans are ultimately paying him and players shouldn’t forget that.”

The fans aren’t paying Bell, and the fans aren’t the owners. The owners are the owners. And the owner in this case, along with the people who work for him, have repeatedly worked the local media in an effort to pressure Bell — who wasn’t and still isn’t under contract — to take the franchise tender and report earlier than the rules require.

It’s been a surprising display. The Steelers, miffed that Bell didn’t take their offer on a long-term deal and frustrated by his willingness to exercise his prerogative to not accept the franchise tender until nearly the last possible moment, have repeatedly called him out. They also leaked incomplete details of the long-term deal he didn’t accept, and more recently they leaked the notion that they had a deal in place with Bell’s agent, but that Bell refused to go through with it.

With so much negativity about Bell being driven by the Steelers, what did the Steelers expect? Maybe they expected exactly what happened, since Bell’s supposed image problems will serve as a lesson to any player in the future who refuses to do what the team wants him to do.

The separate question is whether any of it matters. Seven years ago, Ben Roethlisberger had reached Voldemort status in Pittsburgh, with talk radio littered by a stream of calls from anyone and everyone who ever suffered the slightness of rudeness or indignities from the then-embattled franchise quarterback. And then his four-game suspension ended, the Steelers went to the Super Bowl, and it all was forgotten.

For Bell, it will quickly be forgotten if he plays like he has. Fans already have forgotten a pair of substance-abuse suspensions for Bell, including one for driving under the influence of marijuana. Those actions are, in theory, far more selfish than his refusal to accept a one-year contract for his services.

The fact that teammate Maurkice Pouncey has spoken out on Bell’s behalf may help, but it also could be too little and too late. Where was Pouncey when receiver Antonio Brown (perhaps unwittingly) was pressuring Bell to report for the start of camp? Or when G.M. Kevin Colbert, coach Mike Tomlin, Colbert (again), and owner Art Rooney II were making public statements aimed at getting him to do something he wasn’t compelled to do? Or when the team obviously was leaking information about failed long-term negotiations that made Bell look greedy and selfish?

Pouncey and other teammates should have been speaking out on Bell’s behalf weeks ago. If the California reputation consultant is right, those teammates should be supporting him even more now. Kept from the open market by the franchise tag, Bell is doing what any of them would be doing. Given what we now know about the long-term risks of playing football, hopefully fans will ignore the noise and understand that Bell is doing what any of them would do, too.

Did someone in the Steelers FO have an affair with Florio's wife?
This guy NEVER has a positive thing to say about the Steelers...EVER.

 

[Hines57]

Really wish we still had D-Will.

So he could get hurt and miss time when we need him? I'll take Conner as a rookie and hope he can produce a good back up game for us.

 

[Ike Kelly]

I Agree, but the problem is Tomlin does play his @ss off, and Bell is limping into the playoffs because of it or hurt. He's not a durable type. Tomlin should know better....

So I say let him sign Sept 1st and piss off fans, coaches, and teammates. Then manage his carries and catches a bit so he's healthy for the season and hopefully the playoffs, then try to trade him his right for two first round picks to a dumb team with a high pick like the Jets.

So manage Bell's carries to preserve longevity to hypothetical playoff scenarios instead of playing your best players to win games to make sure you are in the playoffs.........yeah, brilliant.

KC fans think the same of Andy Reid/Jamal Charles? Or Viking fans with AP in the past? Get real. It's a contact sport... Players, all of them, get injured. That's why they get paid the $$.


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[Uncle Ben]

I'm so tired of the damn drama. I'll be loudly chanting " Le'Von Bell go to hell "......... until he scores the first touchdown and then I'll golf clap.

 

[ark steel]

So manage Bell's carries to preserve longevity to hypothetical playoff scenarios instead of playing your best players to win games to make sure you are in the playoffs.........yeah, brilliant.

KC fans think the same of Andy Reid/Jamal Charles? Or Viking fans with AP in the past? Get real. It's a contact sport... Players, all of them, get injured. That's why they get paid the $$.


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I can imagine the gnashing of teeth when Bell is chewing up yards against a D and we stop running him, put in someone less effective or start throwing passes that end up less effective. "WTF was Tombert thinking, we were gashing them with Bell".... The Never Ending Story

 

[antdrewjosh]

Fowler: Marcus Gilbert Would Like To Revisit His Contract Early


BY MATTHEW MARCZI AUGUST 25, 2017 AT 09:00 AM



The drafting of Florida tackle Marcus Gilbert in the second round of the 2011 NFL Draft was the second dip into high-end offensive line pool in as many years, having previously added center Maurkice Pouncey, his college teammate and close friend, in the first round the year prior to that.

Pouncey, in fact, was instrumental in encouraging the Pittsburgh Steelers to draft him the following year. He had such an impact during his rookie season, helping to stabilize an offensive line that proved to be a Super Bowl contender en route to an All-Pro season, that the team deemed his insights worthy of consideration.

It may have taken a few years of developing, but Gilbert ultimately redeemed his friend in recommending him, and the two have been at the heart of the Steelers’ offensive line, now one of the best in the league for years. In fact, both of them received contract extensions the same year, during the summer of 2014.

Pouncey, who had already established himself as a perennial All-Pro that point when healthy, was given a contract that made him the highest-paid player at his position at the time. Gilbert…not so much. To be quite frank, his play since signing what was even then a relatively mid-range contract has been significantly better.

So much better, in fact, that it has become quite obvious that he has outplayed what he is earning, even if he has not yet earned the Pro Bowl accolades that one might expect. I would think that most keen observers of offensive line play readily recognize him as one of the best right tackles in the league.




And he would prefer to be paid like one.

According to Jeremy Fowler, he told reporters yesterday that his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, spoke to the front office a week ago about his contract status, but that he doesn’t know about the current stance. He said that it is “complete BS” when players say that they don’t look at contract numbers. But he also said that he wants to be a part of something great in Pittsburgh, and to be remembered for his play and achievements on the field, not his career earnings.

But he understands there are complications. For example, he has three years remaining on the contract extension that he signed at that time. According to Over the Cap, Gilbert signed a five-year, $30 million contract extension, averaging $6 million in new money per season. His base salary in 2017 is just $4 million. In 2018, it only goes up by $50 thousand. Even in 2019, it will not rise to even $5 million in base salary.

Based on cash spendings, and accounting for signing and roster bonuses, Gilbert’s 2017 salary ranks 17th in the league among right tackles, and will rank already 15th on the books for 2018, 14th for 2019. New contracts will be signed between now and then that would knock him further down the list.

It’s clear that his play entitles him to a higher salary, but what are his options when negotiating with a team that takes a hardline stance on extending the contracts of non-quarterback players with more than one year remaining on their current deal?

It will be very interesting to see if anything comes of this, because it should speak to how much they value Gilbert, and their flexibility as contract negotiators. They made some exceptions over the previous two years for Antonio Brown, forwarding him money from future seasons for two years. Do they value Gilbert enough to make a similar exception?

 

[slashsteel]

Fowler: Marcus Gilbert Would Like To Revisit His Contract Early


BY MATTHEW MARCZI AUGUST 25, 2017 AT 09:00 AM



The drafting of Florida tackle Marcus Gilbert in the second round of the 2011 NFL Draft was the second dip into high-end offensive line pool in as many years, having previously added center Maurkice Pouncey, his college teammate and close friend, in the first round the year prior to that.

Pouncey, in fact, was instrumental in encouraging the Pittsburgh Steelers to draft him the following year. He had such an impact during his rookie season, helping to stabilize an offensive line that proved to be a Super Bowl contender en route to an All-Pro season, that the team deemed his insights worthy of consideration.

It may have taken a few years of developing, but Gilbert ultimately redeemed his friend in recommending him, and the two have been at the heart of the Steelers’ offensive line, now one of the best in the league for years. In fact, both of them received contract extensions the same year, during the summer of 2014.

Pouncey, who had already established himself as a perennial All-Pro that point when healthy, was given a contract that made him the highest-paid player at his position at the time. Gilbert…not so much. To be quite frank, his play since signing what was even then a relatively mid-range contract has been significantly better.

So much better, in fact, that it has become quite obvious that he has outplayed what he is earning, even if he has not yet earned the Pro Bowl accolades that one might expect. I would think that most keen observers of offensive line play readily recognize him as one of the best right tackles in the league.




And he would prefer to be paid like one.

According to Jeremy Fowler, he told reporters yesterday that his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, spoke to the front office a week ago about his contract status, but that he doesn’t know about the current stance. He said that it is “complete BS” when players say that they don’t look at contract numbers. But he also said that he wants to be a part of something great in Pittsburgh, and to be remembered for his play and achievements on the field, not his career earnings.

But he understands there are complications. For example, he has three years remaining on the contract extension that he signed at that time. According to Over the Cap, Gilbert signed a five-year, $30 million contract extension, averaging $6 million in new money per season. His base salary in 2017 is just $4 million. In 2018, it only goes up by $50 thousand. Even in 2019, it will not rise to even $5 million in base salary.

Based on cash spendings, and accounting for signing and roster bonuses, Gilbert’s 2017 salary ranks 17th in the league among right tackles, and will rank already 15th on the books for 2018, 14th for 2019. New contracts will be signed between now and then that would knock him further down the list.

It’s clear that his play entitles him to a higher salary, but what are his options when negotiating with a team that takes a hardline stance on extending the contracts of non-quarterback players with more than one year remaining on their current deal?

It will be very interesting to see if anything comes of this, because it should speak to how much they value Gilbert, and their flexibility as contract negotiators. They made some exceptions over the previous two years for Antonio Brown, forwarding him money from future seasons for two years. Do they value Gilbert enough to make a similar exception?

Too bad for him, it was a decent contract when he signed it..............

 

[Stryker]

And this is why you don't do contracts with over 1 year left. Then everyone wants to get paid.

Drew knows better. The Steelers will not redo Gilbert's contract this year. Next year, yes. This year, no.

 

[Drink IRON City]

And this is why you don't do contracts with over 1 year left. Then everyone wants to get paid.

Drew knows better. The Steelers will not redo Gilbert's contract this year. Next year, yes. This year, no.

When the NFL does go to GAURANTEED CONTRACTS,.this cinerio won't be happening. One more thing the HUGe signing bonus' will be way less also. Contracts will mainly be 2 years with a few 3year sprinkled in.QBs will be longer but have injury language in it.





Salute the nation

 

[Supersteeler]

Can't muster up and sympathy still. Get your *** to practice and contribute to your team.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I'm so tired of the damn drama. I'll be loudly chanting " Le'Von Bell go to hell "......... until he scores the first touchdown and then I'll golf clap.

I'll just be happy if he plays in at least 8 games and I'll golf clap. If he's healthy for the playoffs I'll clap big time.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Too bad for him, it was a decent contract when he signed it..............

You see that's the rub............WOULD any of these "athletes" give the money back if they played below average???? **** no so why expect more when you play above the line........ You signed that contract knowing for how long it was. Play now for your future contract and you will be rewarded. Pretty simple except in this worl of tunnel ME vision. This is in general and NOT aimed directly at Marcus but still with in reality.




Salute the nation

 

[Drink IRON City]

I'll just be happy if he plays in at least 8 games and I'll golf clap. If he's healthy for the playoffs I'll clap big time.

Keep it up and might just catch "the clap".



Salute the nation

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Bell might not have broken the Steelers Bank yet but he sure is about to break someone's bank in my dynasty league. We have a league with an annual budget of 1 million. Two round rookie draft 1st round contract is 4 years 0 mil second is 3 year 0 mil after that they go up for a free agent auction with a max three year contract. Ties are decided by Loyalty to previously contracted team then power points accumulated over the previous three season by finish. Here is the current bidding for Bell. Already a record by at least 10 mil.


Player Rank Position Salary Years Bid Value Highest Bidding Team Loyalty Team Time Until Bid Expires Bid
Ty Montgomery 37 WR $20 1 22 Tijuana Toros Philadelphia Decepticons 0 days, 11 hours, 6 minutes and 14 seconds
Davante Adams 44 WR $7 3 13 Oakland Revolution Montana Mustangs 0 days, 12 hours, 38 minutes and 31 seconds
Marshawn Lynch 34 RB $17 1 19 Alaska Snow Yeti ***FREE AGENT*** 0 days, 14 hours, 22 minutes and 19 seconds
Spencer Ware 49 RB $9 1 11 Alaska Snow Yeti Pittsburgh Predators 0 days, 14 hours, 22 minutes and 53 seconds
Julian Edelman 56 WR $5 1 7 Cleveland Rockers Las Vegas Dragons 0 days, 15 hours, 3 minutes and 48 seconds
Jordan Reed 50 TE $7 2 12 Montana Mustangs Montana Mustangs 0 days, 15 hours, 11 minutes and 22 seconds
LeVeon Bell 2 RB $45 2 49 Las Vegas Dragons Pittsburgh Predators 0 days, 16 hours, 27 minutes and 32 seconds
LeGarrette Blount 59 RB $2 1 4 Alaska Snow Yeti Houston Hellhounds 0 days, 16 hours, 31 minutes and 43 seconds
Eddie Lacy 51 RB $3 3 9 Pittsburgh Predators Florida Mean Machine 0 days, 16 hours, 47 minutes and 1 seconds
Michael Crabtree 45 WR $9 2 14 Montana Mustangs Montana Mustangs 0 days, 17 hours, 14 minutes and 15 seconds

 

[Tibs]

What the hell is he blabbering on about now?

Video: Does Le’Veon Bell Now Want $17 Million Per Season?
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Well, I’m not really sure what to make of this latest video from Pittsburgh Steelers running back Le’Veon Bell so maybe all of you can help me out with it.

I’m guessing that Bell is trying to tell us that his price tag has now gone from $15 million per season to $17 million. I’m also not really sure why Bell made sure to specifically tag Antonio Brown, Bud Dupree, Ryan Shazier, James Harrison and Vince Williams in this tweet as well.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">here's y'all response from snapchat<a href="https://twitter.com/AB84">@AB84</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Bud_Dupree">@Bud_Dupree</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanShazier">@RyanShazier</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/jharrison9292">@jharrison9292</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/VinnyVidiVici98">@VinnyVidiVici98</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hitrow?src=hash">#Hitrow</a> &#55358;&#56601;&#55356;&#57342; <a href="https://t.co/kAVWFLSt31">pic.twitter.com/kAVWFLSt31</a></p>— Le'Veon Bell (@L_Bell26) <a href="https://twitter.com/L_Bell26/status/902980338498101248">August 30, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[oicu8ad]

Is he sporting a douche knot??

Come on Lev

 

[stillwright]

Is he sporting a douche knot??

Come on Lev

Well play/pay him this year and then move on with Conner. Simple enough.

 

[slashsteel]

better get that money now
ol knot head
because you won't make a dime
selling yinz rap
you heard what I said!

that price keeps rising
yinz full of win
better hope your health holds up
even if
there's always the tag again

scratch scratch scratch

 

[Tibs]

What struck me most about this video is he seems legitimately pissed off at his teammates, perhaps for making fun of him holding out while others cashed in on contracts? Maybe he was playing around, but I didn't like his demeanor, struck me as odd. Maybe there's nothing to it and he'll be welcomed back with open arms. We'll find out next few days.

 

[slashsteel]

What struck me most about this video is he seems legitimately pissed off at his teammates, perhaps for making fun of him holding out while others cashed in on contracts? Maybe he was playing around, but I didn't like his demeanor, struck me as odd. Maybe there's nothing to it and he'll be welcomed back with open arms. We'll find out next few days.

even if he is kidding

STFU about money already

 

[black and gold apex]

I'm not happy with not training at camp and holding out for more money but that is the game with these players today. How do the players react since they spent sweat at camp, played preseason for the most part and now Bell jaunts in all smiley face and says he is ready for game day. He hasn't played a complete year yet. Fans will be fine with it I get it that is as long as he produces and produces each game.

 

[stillwright]

I'm not happy with not training at camp and holding out for more money but that is the game with these players today. How do the players react since they spent sweat at camp, played preseason for the most part and now Bell jaunts in all smiley face and says he is ready for game day. He hasn't played a complete year yet. Fans will be fine with it I get it that is as long as he produces and produces each game.

He isn't holding out for more money. He can only play for the tag amount. As far as the fans go. I think his teammates will be more forgiving than us fans. I am hoping Conner get a fair amount of carries this year.

 

[south dakota STEEL]

Go Connor! **** this idiot. he may be good, but I wouldn't care if he didn't play.