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Bell - No Structural Damage

I had one on my back 6 or 7 years ago and yeah they are immediate. I'm sure a Doctor was there, we are talking about one of the most valuable players on a multi million $ team. Our coaches need to know asap how to gameplan with or without Bell. I hope he wakes up with no pain and can practice soon, he is really young so he may be ready really soon.
 
Just heard on FB Bell walked out of the lockeroom with right knee packed in ice.....no braces or crutches.
 
Sit him for the next round

This next game is a 5 Wide game if there ever was one.

We shouldn't try to play tough guy smashmouth against the Ravens - they have the more physical team....but a secondary even worse than ours.

Throw early and often against them, you know Flacco will be dropping lob balls all over our deep coverage - I hope Ike and Troy don't come back , we need our young legs back there
 
Josh Harris just tweeted that Le'Veon texted him and and said he's good. If that is indeed true, what a miracle.
 
Thanks Steeltime. So you think the news being reported is probably an accurate diagnosis?

It is a pretty darn good probability that the MCL, PCL and ACL are not damaged.

However, the hyperextension will cause swelling and pain. If the swelling goes down in a couple of days, and the pain is not too bad, then can probably play. And injuries to the ACL are not due to repetitive microtrauma, like injuries to the ulnar collateral ligament for pitchers, requiring Tommy John surgery.

So even though he sustained the hyperextension and very likely swelling and pain, his playing on Saturday does not expose him to a greater likelihood of ACL injury. It does not work that way.

Now, if he has discomfort in the knee and cannot plant and cut like he is used to doing, that very well may create problems, not the least of which is getting his bell rung because his usual quick cut is just not there.
 
GLad it's not serious. I doubt he plays this week, though. Can't risk him for the rest of the playoffs and even next season.
 
I don't quite understand the confidence against Baltimore playing without Bell.

I thought our offense looked like **** without him last night. Not sure I think we score 20 if he doesn't play.
 
I don't quite understand the confidence against Baltimore playing without Bell.

I thought our offense looked like **** without him last night. Not sure I think we score 20 if he doesn't play.

Concur. As Bell goes, the team goes.
 
I don't quite understand the confidence against Baltimore playing without Bell.

I thought our offense looked like **** without him last night. Not sure I think we score 20 if he doesn't play.

I agree! I sure as hell hope the team isn't overlooking Baltimore like many here seem to be doing.
 
We can beat the Ravens if the Oline continues to play well. Any back can get yds if there are holes. Bell
is special because he consistently makes something of nothing. We will miss that in the run game. We can still run the ball though if the Oline goes out and dominates. Where Bell will be most missed is the passing game. Blitz pickup and as a receiver. Maybe Archer got a little confidence and will be able to contribute some catches out the backfield. Let Harris get the majority of carries. You cant replace Bell with one guy. That being said I pray Bell is ok and suits up next week. Hearing it depends on the swelling.
 
I don't quite understand the confidence against Baltimore playing without Bell.

I thought our offense looked like **** without him last night. Not sure I think we score 20 if he doesn't play.

While I agree with the thought that we shouldn't/can't overlook anyone, including the Rats in the playoffs, I think there were extenuating circumstances for the O last night. Not the least of which was Big Ben having the flu.
 
I've had knee injuries, and I would say the biggest indicator of minimal or no significant damage is the fact that he walked off the field unassisted. If there had been even a hint of a suspicion of something serious by the doctor on the field, they would have carted him off and not let him walk. Remember Greg Warren a couple years ago, where he insisted on hobbling off the field by himself and finished blowing out his knee as a result? Long snapper is kind of an important position, but one that only gets on the field 4-5 times a game... You can't take the same chances with your Pro-Bowl running back.

That said, we can't expect much success with Archer in the backfield trying to block pass rushers. If Bell isn't ready to go, they have to let Harris do that, or else figure out a way to have Ben get rid of the ball quick, because Archer isn't even going to be a speed bump for someone like Suggs.
 
The line has been playing better but the gavens have some big hard to move players in their front seven. They are not a bunch I expect to run on very much. I think you run just enough to make them play it and bubble screen them a few times to slow down their outside guys. I suspect it will be lots of short passes to wear them down and maybe in the second and fourth quarters they can get hit with some deep passes. I expect a slug fest with them and really do not want to see anyone hurt.
 
Well that's good news. Aggressive rehab and some time in Michael Jackson's old oxygen chamber and he'll be good to go.
 
I'll let them make the medical decision on this one. But if he can go, he plays. There is no resting someone for the next round of the playoffs. Really people. This team lost to the Bucs, Saints and Jets. How quickly we live in the ether. None of these guys can block. Even if he isn't a factor as a runner, he is the best blocker by far. If he isn't at great risk, put a brace on him and play. I have absolutely no idea what the purpose of drafting Archer was. You could totally see on the pick that Ben was sure he was about to get destroyed from the blind side.

First of all, I've been praying all night and I'm still praying that LeVeon is ok. Not for selfish reasons because the kid is really a good guy and I'd like to see him continue to shine while he has the opportunity.

Now, about the quoted text above...

I'm not sure what you were expecting, blocking-wise, from Dri or Josh - but, both players contributed to the offense when asked last night. Both showed the ability to get out in the open field and "make a play". Perhaps the glass is just half full rather than half empty???
 
Anyone know if those "cold chambers" the Dallas Mavericks were raving about a couple of years ago actually help?
 
The first good news was seeing him get of f the field as he did. Today MRI and test will be important.
 
First of all, I've been praying all night and I'm still praying that LeVeon is ok. Not for selfish reasons because the kid is really a good guy and I'd like to see him continue to shine while he has the opportunity.

Now, about the quoted text above...

I'm not sure what you were expecting, blocking-wise, from Dri or Josh - but, both players contributed to the offense when asked last night. Both showed the ability to get out in the open field and "make a play". Perhaps the glass is just half full rather than half empty???
I could live without the production from Bell in the run game, and maybe one of those guys could make a big play. But if you are talking blocking wise, C'mon. The one interception was directly related to Archer getting blown up trying to block the outside backer. You have to have confidence as a qB that you can step into the throw. How the hell is Ben supposed to do that with the 170 lb kid in the way of a 250 LB.
 
I could live without the production from Bell in the run game, and maybe one of those guys could make a big play. But if you are talking blocking wise, C'mon. The one interception was directly related to Archer getting blown up trying to block the outside backer. You have to have confidence as a qB that you can step into the throw. How the hell is Ben supposed to do that with the 170 lb kid in the way of a 250 LB.

Pretty simple adjustment if you have to go without Bell. Not saying it will be a seamless one. But, you go with Johnson at Fullback and keep him in to block.
 
I could live without the production from Bell in the run game, and maybe one of those guys could make a big play. But if you are talking blocking wise, C'mon. The one interception was directly related to Archer getting blown up trying to block the outside backer. You have to have confidence as a qB that you can step into the throw. How the hell is Ben supposed to do that with the 170 lb kid in the way of a 250 LB.
I don't understand why Johnson or Harris wasn't in if they needed a blocker.
 
But literally 8/10 of the offense is not based upon that any more. It is all single back with a threat to run but multiple receivers. Clearly on third down you are right they would put in a blocker like Johnson. But what about first and second.
 
Archer's block or whiff had nothing to do with Ben's pick. Bad read. Bad throw.
 
Pretty simple adjustment if you have to go without Bell. Not saying it will be a seamless one. But, you go with Johnson at Fullback and keep him in to block.

Exactly Steelbuckeye. I forgot all about Johnson. He can play that role. It will take a committee to replace Bell. Like i said though if the oline takes it upon themselves to dominate this game wont matter. That is the key.
 
I'm not sure what you were expecting, blocking-wise, from Dri or Josh - but, both players contributed to the offense when asked last night. Both showed the ability to get out in the open field and "make a play". Perhaps the glass is just half full rather than half empty???

Archer's only real contribution last night was the pass he caught along the sidelines. He whiffed on at least one block in the backfield (the play that resulted in the interception), and has never really shown any ability to block. Giving up over 100 pounds to a pass rusher, he will lose every time and doesn't even seem to be able to effectively cut block by diving at their ankles. Harris at least has some mass, but I don't think we saw enough of him to determine whether he has any actual skill at picking up a block in pass protection. This is not a "bash Archer" post, just a realistic observation that the overall dropoff in skill and performance across the board is dramatic if Bell is not able to go. Not talking about just running, or catching, but blocking and all the other little things we could count on Bell for. It's not fair to say that Archer and Harris can't find ways to contribute and offset Bell's absence if it comes to it, but one of the key things for this upcoming game will be pass protection, and if we are going to rely on Archer to block, Ben will get creamed.
 
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