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Ben is the weak link at this point

I'm watching the game again; I've seen a couple of bad throws and some bad drops, but what really stands out is way too many defenders' hands in throwing lanes leading to tips and high throws. It's TB all over again around here; 3 trips to the big game, 5 AFCC's, never a losing season with him at QB, and some people talk about Ben like he's Trent ******* Dilfer if he doesn't have a perfect qbr every game. I'm more concerned about the inconsistent pass rush than I am the QB play right now. As has been said, they're in pretty good shape if he's the weak link.
 
I'm watching the game again; I've seen a couple of bad throws and some bad drops, but what really stands out is way too many defenders' hands in throwing lanes leading to tips and high throws. It's TB all over again around here; 3 trips to the big game, 5 AFCC's, never a losing season with him at QB, and some people talk about Ben like he's Trent ******* Dilfer if he doesn't have a perfect qbr every game. I'm more concerned about the inconsistent pass rush than I am the QB play right now. As has been said, they're in pretty good shape if he's the weak link.

This. All Sunday night, I was screaming for Ben to utilize the ******* pump fake. There was a time when it seemed like he pump faked every ******* throw. Nowadays, he doesn't seem to use it, and yet he's the king of the tipped ball at the line intercepted by a defensive lineman or linebacker. I have no clue as to why he stopped using it, but as soon as he did Sunday night, the chefs defense bit and the outlaw was wide open in the middle of the field on essentially the game winning drive. He needs to reintroduce this to himself again and remember that he can use it.
 
The weak link is our WR's and our long yardage D, how many 3rd and longs or 2nd and longs did KC convert

Not sure what you mean by long. I assume 5 or more yards. 3rd down. 1 for 16+. 2nd down, 2.

1 4th and 8.
 
In the Miami game he only threw the ball 15 times and two of those were picks. Should have been three but the Miami LB'er dropped an easy catch.

See i can cherry pick too.

We're talking about trends and stats....stupid.

More stupid spin. One interception bounced off the All Pro Receivers shoulder/hands. The other was in garbage time and never should have been called.
 
They almost got all the yards lost by Kelce on the very next play, the long pass to Maclin on 3rd and 20, there's another one I'm forgetting, but that's to many when you have them behind the chains and not a down field throwing team
 
They almost got all the yards lost by Kelce on the very next play, the long pass to Maclin on 3rd and 20, there's another one I'm forgetting, but that's to many when you have them behind the chains and not a down field throwing team

Not sure what this means. We count almost stuff? I listed the # of 3rd and 2nd and longs converted.
 
Ben better get his s*** straight.....and quick or we are going to be taken to the woodshed come Sunday just on points off takeaways.
http://deadspin.com/which-ben-roethlisberger-will-the-steelers-get-this-wee-1791086732

Any QB who is still playing Sunday better bring it, it is win or go home.......I just want Ben to play the Gun-slinger......Push the action......There is a scenario where we can absorb take-aways & that is to speed up the tempo with no huddle, with crossing routes/slants/& dumps to the RB. This will set up for the longer bombs which should be 1st & 2nd down plays as the game progresses....I would like to see a Gun-slinging Ben spreading 3-4 wide with Bell in the backfield & using Bell for 25 carries & 7-10 targets.

There are takeaways & turnovers that CAN be absorbed & are the price of up tempo...we can take a couple TO's if we are playing fast.....If we push the tempo we got this....If we are conservative, we are done....
 
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Actually the Kelce penalty made it 3rd and 20, they converted, and led to a FG.
The TD drive, we had them backed up to 2nd and 25 and let them out of it. They converted a 4th and 8, and a 3rd and 9.
 
Sure it's the recievers.....so let's flip that around and look at what opposing defensive backs and linebackers have dropped to make Ben's play look somewhat better than it actually has been.

From the article:

According to Football Outsiders, Roethlisberger led the league with 13 dropped interceptions to go along with his 13 actual interceptions (in 14 games). And according to Pro Football Focus, 4.72 percent of all of Roethlisberger’s throws were considered turnover-worthy, which ranked 27th out of the 29 quarterbacks with at least 400 pass attempts. The irony in all this is that Roethlisberger is being protected better than ever. When he went to the lowB repuS in 2010 and won it in 2008, he played behind an offensive line with an adjusted sack rate that ranked 29th. This year, the Steelers’ O-line ranks fourth. Roethlisberger was sacked a career-low 17 times during the regular season, and per PFF, he saw pressure on just 23.2 percent of his dropbacks—down from 29.3 percent in 2015.

Enough said.

There is something going on with him. That's all I brought up, and that cued up the villagers with the pitchforks and the torches.

I also said he needs to get it straightened out( HAS TO!) by Sunday because Belichick will exploit any ,and EVERY mistake he makes.

So whom would you blame for the 18 drops on Ben's passes this season? That's 3.54%, btw, or 8th highest in the league for quarterbacks with at least 500 attempts. That his fault, too?

Was there "something going on with him" when Ben clinched the game by moving out of the pocket, allowing Brown to get open, and throwing a perfect pass on the run?

Ben is making plays to win games like he used to earlier in his career, which wasn't happening there for a while. I'll take some inconsistency as long as he keeps performing late in the fourth quarter with everything on the line.
 
I gotta disagree....our weakest link has been our abysmal (at least it seems to me) number of 3rd down and long stops......I just looked it up we are #23 at 40.51% on 3rd down conversions....

Green Bay & Atlanta are worse than us.....Pats #4

GET THEM OFF THE FIELD
 
Damn we will need Ben to be on......

Fact is Ben is 13-6 in the post season........#5 in wins all-time for a QB
Fact is Brady is 23-9 in the post season.....#1 in wins all-time for a QB

Defining moment for Ben & the Steelers
 
Elfie, it still would be 2 pics vs the Dolphins. The almost interception occurred the play before the actual interception. You can't have 2ints on the same drive.

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Bellicheck is going to stack the box, to stop Bell........and double team AB. He is going to make Ben win this game. So, as Ben goes, so does this game. Plus a good game plan. We are not going to win this without getting the ball into the end zone.
 
I think if Ben had the #2 & 3 receivers with the playing time of Hayward-Bey and Coates things might be a little better.
But to be fair, Ayers, Rogers, Hamilton have made some nice plays but are still works in progress and have cost down & distance making mistakes with their route assignments. James has shown improvement and the Green experiment really hasn't gotten off the ground so the TE factor really isn't at a level to replace the dynamic Heath Miller provided and Grimble must be used for blocking he seems to never get any touches.
The Steelers seem to be leaning on their running game and it has paid dividends. Other teams knowing this will focus on stifling the Steelers run to force the pass and make them semi one dimensional.
With some success in the passing game and a balanced possession game keeping Brady on the sidelines, to quote the new face of Verizon Bill "the Chin" Cowher: "I like our chances"!
 
We need to do to the **** as they do to teams, quick slant dump offs to speedy WRs. Calling on Eli and Coolie boy to step up!
 
Bellicheck is going to stack the box, to stop Bell........and double team AB. He is going to make Ben win this game. So, as Ben goes, so does this game. Plus a good game plan. We are not going to win this without getting the ball into the end zone.

Ben doesnt need to be perfect. But agreed, this offense goes as he does
 
Absolutely Ben needs a big game, but we need our wrs to make plays as well, we can't have dropped TD's.
Our best wr, AB, ran the route wrong on the final play, we can't have that either.
 
Bellicheck is going to stack the box, to stop Bell........and double team AB. He is going to make Ben win this game. So, as Ben goes, so does this game. Plus a good game plan. We are not going to win this without getting the ball into the end zone.

so help an illiterate offensive coordinator - if they stack the box and double team AB, that leaves...... tight ends and the middle of the field of 2nd/3rd receivers single covered?
 
I wouldn't be shocked if they double AB, and put Butler on our #2 wr. If we spread them out like we did vs KC, they can't really stack the box.
 
I'm seeing more overthrows lately. If he gets the ball down, I think he will have a great game. And take what the D gives you. No need to throw it 20 yards if the RB is running wide open at the line.
 
Hes gonna have to use his mobility some.....buy some time and hit the open receiver. When the play breaks down hes at his best.
 
NE doesn't have anyone that's as good 1 on 1 rushing the passer as KC had, I think Ben will have time. We haven't even sent Bell out in the passing game much, he stayed in and blocked almost every pass at KC.
 
It will be very difficult to stack the box AND double team AB. They will do one or the other and probably alternate throughout the game to keep us guessing. If AB is one on one, Ben should be looking his way. Ben will need to do a much better job of checking to the right play or NOT checking. He hasn't been doing very well at this lately.
 
If they stack the box AND double AB, they will be playing with fire and it will show zero respect for Ben's ability to beat us with the TE's and #2-6 receivers. He will make them pay if they try that ****
 
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