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Ben's Records Tonight against the Colts

Your stupid criticism of the play call.

It took advantage of the defense. It found a wide open Miller for a TD.

Running against an 8-man front has a substantial chance of failure. We know this from the dozens of times teams in the NFL failed to gain a yard against stacked defensive fronts on 3rd and 4th and short today, and every other week. The success rate for the play-action pass to the TE on that play is freaking large.

It had nothing to do with "getting Ben a record." It had to do with getting a TD.

And hey, guess what, it worked. Miller was wide freaking open.

I'm not criticizing it...HELLO! The play was called for the reason I stated, as confirmed from the sideline. I've seen that play fail for us dozens of times so I'm not buying your 'logic'.
 
I'm not criticizing it...HELLO! The play was called for the reason I stated, as confirmed from the sideline. I've seen that play fail for us dozens of times so I'm not buying your 'logic'.

You are not criticizing the play, yet say "I've seen that play fail for us dozens of times so I'm not buying your logic"? What the ... ?

And you said this:

Actually the safe bet for job security on the 4th and 1 for Todd where Ben got his 6th TD was to run a QB sneak then let the chips fall where they may as far as 3 or 7 being the result. Confirmation from Wolf on the sideline is that Haley specifically called that play to get Ben the record, says Ben and Todd were all winks and smiles.

So you are criticizing the play. I am pointing out how dumb your criticism is.

You fail to understand why your criticism is dumb because, well, you're dumb.
 
Namath was 15-28 for 497 and 6 TDs against the Colts in 1972, 33 yards a completion, best game ever. In Johny Unitas's last great game he was 26-45 for 376 and 2 TDs

And that has something to do with what?
 
That play call was a thing of beauty. The colts sold out to stop the run. Both backs have been stopped with no gain or a short loss in the game. A sneak could get Ben hammered and exposed to cheap shots. One of the colts was giving Bell's ankle the business after a play ended and appeared to get kicked or cleated, he was later on the sideline getting something on his hand or wrist tended to. Just as the brown pass for a TD last week was good so was the one to Heath. Even if he does not score he converts.
 
Ben was in the zone tonight. Like Joe Greene said.."the zone is a place you visit once, maybe twice in a career".... I enjoyed this as much as anyone.. Let's just not get ahead of ourselves here thinking we're gonna see this every week... Personally, I think the offensive line was just as lights out as ben was... They were awesome.
 
jj you were called a **** before you tried arguing anything. you were called a **** because you came on here after one of the greatest games by an NFL QB and started bitching that he was not really that good. You can not get under my skin because I don't give a **** what anyone on this site says. calling me thin-skinned, just shows how ******* ignorant you really are....
 
Ben was in the zone tonight. Like Joe Greene said.."the zone is a place you visit once, maybe twice in a career".... I enjoyed this as much as anyone.. Let's just not get ahead of ourselves here thinking we're gonna see this every week... Personally, I think the offensive line was just as lights out as ben was... They were awesome.

we know we will not see this every week, that's why it's head scratching and something to savor, at the same time. Where did this performance come from and can see do it some more?
 
You're right that we are not going to see too many 500 yard 6 TD games ahead. But we should be able to expect 300 yard 3 TD games more regularly with what the offense showed on Sunday. If the D can keep up the crazy all out blitzes and force QB's into some bad throws, the offense can hold the ball and have long sustained drives, we can point to this game as the turning point. It's all a matter of consistency at this point. We came out hot like this against Cleveland the very first game, then went into a shell, played well against Carolina, then another shell, and then back to back games where we've looked good, and then better. Hopefully we don't retreat to that shell and can continue this upward trend.
 
jj you were called a **** before you tried arguing anything. you were called a **** because you came on here after one of the greatest games by an NFL QB and started bitching that he was not really that good. You can not get under my skin because I don't give a **** what anyone on this site says. calling me thin-skinned, just shows how ******* ignorant you really are....

I think "immature" would be a better word than "thin-skinned".

JJ at least had the stones to come on here after a good came and still present his arguments while the rest of you could do nothing but wave your pom poms. If he came on here after one of Ben's less-than-stellar performances, you'd be crying about how he's never here after a good performance. You pom pom wavers are nothing if not predictable. ONE GAME does nothing to change the arguments on Roethlisberger.
 
This is the Ben we need every week. Like it was said no one expects 500 yds every week but I do expect him to be the best QB if not best player on the field every week. Great game by the oline also. Ben had all day. Hopefully this game sky rockets this offense's confidence.
 
I think "immature" would be a better word than "thin-skinned".

JJ at least had the stones to come on here after a good came and still present his arguments while the rest of you could do nothing but wave your pom poms. If he came on here after one of Ben's less-than-stellar performances, you'd be crying about how he's never here after a good performance. You pom pom wavers are nothing if not predictable. ONE GAME does nothing to change the arguments on Roethlisberger.

no he came to here to rain on Ben's good game. I at least think he might be a Steelers fan, unlike you troll.......
 
Thank god steeler fans don't run the team. We would never win **** again. Some of these rocket scientists would trade the team away for a wing&prayer.
 
some people ***** about anything, don't they? You can't find a silver lining in anything? Jesus, it gets old bitching and being negative all the time. We finally have a game for the ages and there are some that their glass is still half empty. Why do you bother watching? We are pom pom wavers because we are TRYING to enjoy this win and giving Ben his due props for having a stellar performance? Well, **** me and my Black & Gold glasses.
 
some people ***** about anything, don't they? You can't find a silver lining in anything? Jesus, it gets old bitching and being negative all the time. We finally have a game for the ages and there are some that their glass is still half empty. Why do you bother watching? We are pom pom wavers because we are TRYING to enjoy this win and giving Ben his due props for having a stellar performance? Well, **** me and my Black & Gold glasses.

If you ever noticed, people who enjoy complaining about their terrible life, don't want cheering up. They want your life to be just as bad.
 
some people ***** about anything, don't they? You can't find a silver lining in anything? Jesus, it gets old bitching and being negative all the time. We finally have a game for the ages and there are some that their glass is still half empty. Why do you bother watching? We are pom pom wavers because we are TRYING to enjoy this win and giving Ben his due props for having a stellar performance? Well, **** me and my Black & Gold glasses.

You've got people on here saying this game makes him a shoo-in for the HOF and throwing hissy fits when someone points out that one game does not erase all of his bad habits/performances. That's quite different than "giving him his due props".
 
You've got people on here saying this game makes him a shoo-in for the HOF and throwing hissy fits when someone points out that one game does not erase all of his bad habits/performances. That's quite different than "giving him his due props".

I don't think one game gets into the HOF, but pointing out his bad habits has a time/place. This is not that time. His accomplishments yesterday was special. He won his 100th game out of 150. Only 3 other QBs have done that. He threw for 6 TDs, had his second 500 yard game. The only QB to do that. He's far from perfect, but yesterday was HIS day. I can't find one negative or chose to. Right now, it's great to be a Steeler fan. Live in the moment.
 
some people ***** about anything, don't they? You can't find a silver lining in anything? Jesus, it gets old bitching and being negative all the time. We finally have a game for the ages and there are some that their glass is still half empty. Why do you bother watching? We are pom pom wavers because we are TRYING to enjoy this win and giving Ben his due props for having a stellar performance? Well, **** me and my Black & Gold glasses.

Yes, and we have people bitching about the refs and how they were almost ready to stop watching football altogether. It isn't the same game as it was years ago and Allen would be a great player if not for the refs. Everybody is bitching about something.
 
You've got people on here saying this game makes him a shoo-in for the HOF and throwing hissy fits when someone points out that one game does not erase all of his bad habits/performances. That's quite different than "giving him his due props".

I'll bet he gets in before Flacco. What say you, troll.
 
How did this thread turn into another fussing thread?? We should all be celebrating one of the greatest performances we've ever seen. The man was lights out. Best player on the field.
 
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How did this thread turn into another fussing thread?? We should all be celabrating one of the greatest performances we've ever seen. The man was lights out. Best player on the field.

Same way my individual stats thread got turned into an anti-tomlin thread. It's the Steelernation way.
 
I've pointed out a few times on here that some of the people on this site would rather the Steelers lose to validate their incessant whining than for the Steelers to win. Rather you like him or not, Big Ben's 100th victory and second 500 yard passing day places him in elite company and, in reference to the latter, above all others who have ever played this game.

Also, does anyone else think their should be an asterisk beside Marcia's record every time they flash it about a QB's record in their first 150 games?
 
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Big Ben Goes Boom
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/10/27/nfl-week-8-ben-roethlisberger-steelers-record-passing/

Ben Roethlisberger’s ridiculous numbers—522 yards, six TDs—stood out on perhaps the greatest collective passing day in NFL history. Plus, a speedster from Pittsburg (the one in Kansas) wins it for the Cardinals, why the Seahawks are still in trouble, a new No. 1 in the Fine Fifteen and much more
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Peter King
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There was a time when the 4,000-yard passing season was special. In 2005, two quarterbacks, Tom Brady and Trent Green, surpassed that total. In this pyrotechnic season in the NFL, 13 quarterbacks are on pace to throw for 4,000 yards.

The game is changing before our eyes. It has changed. Tonight, if the game goes the way the Dallas season has to this point, you’ll see the Cowboys run more than they pass against Washington, which is a quaint little thing that teams just don’t do anymore.

On Sunday, for the first time in NFL history, four players threw for 400 yards or more on the same day. Tom Brady threw as many incompletions, five, as touchdown passes. Ben Roethlisberger and Andrew Luck combined for 922 yards. The day, really, belonged to Roethlisberger. He has transitioned to a brand new wide-receiving corps in the last four years, all chosen in the middle to late rounds (Antonio Brown, Markus Wheaton, Martavis Bryant), and you can see how his comfort level increases with them weekly. Particularly with Brown, who is to Roethlisberger what Santonio Holmes was when the Steelers last won a Super Bowl.

The Steelers have been alive since 1933, and Roethlisberger, 32, had the best passing game in team history Sunday: 40 of 49 for 522 yards, with six touchdowns and no interceptions. You cannot play the position better than Roethlisberger did in beating the Colts—who’d shut out Cincinnati last week. He was not sacked. In his 49 dropbacks, he was significantly pressured once, that figure coming in part because of great play from his line and in part because Roethlisberger knows how to deftly step out of trouble and duck out of harm’s way. He doesn’t look like he would be quick in the pocket, but he is.


Roethlisberger and Andrew Luck combined for 922 yards. (Joe Robbins/Getty Images)
We often forget Roethlisberger when we speak of the great passers in the game. That’s a mistake. He’s fearless in and out of the pocket, can make every throw, will always have a chip on his shoulder about being overlooked in the Brady-Manning-Rodgers-Brees conversation of the greats, and produces no matter who’s out on the flank for him.

And this year, as with the other passers putting up ridiculous numbers, Roethlisberger is being helped by the officiating emphasis on cleaning up the chicken-fighting between receiver and corner in the secondary. There were more illegal contact penalties called in the first seven weeks of the season than had been flagged all last year; defensive holding is way up too. The league has seen 47 more accepted penalties per weekend, and many are helping the quarterbacks. “Every year there are new points of emphasis,” Roethlisberger told me from Pittsburgh after the game, “but the people who would say all this is happening because of those, I disagree. Look at the plays that were made out there today.” Tight end Heath Miller wasn’t left open on a 49-yard catch-and-run because a safety or linebacker couldn’t tussle with him; he was open because the Colts had too many other Steeler weapons to concentrate on.

Brown is the kind of smooth and versatile threat who could win an NFL receiving title before he retires. He’s on pace to catch 120 balls for 1,704 yards and 14 touchdowns, which would be the best receiving season in Steelers history. Pittsburgh has been looking for a bookend for Brown, and they may have found one. Or two. Bryant—a raw 6-4 kid from Clemson who played in the shadow of Sammy Watkins—and Wheaton had been non-factors much of the year until last week, but they combined for 10 catches, 139 yards and three touchdowns against the Colts. Brown is 26, Bryant 22 and Wheaton 23. They’re the future, and the future is now in a division that doesn’t have a dominant team.



NFL Single-Game Passing Leaders

1. Norm Van Brocklin 554
(Rams vs. Yanks, 1951)

T-2. Warren Moon 527
(Oilers vs. Chiefs, 1990)

T-2. Matt Schaub 527
(Texans vs. Jaguars, 2012)

T-4. Boomer Esiason 522
(Cardinals vs. Redskins, 1996)

T-4. Ben Roethlisberger 522
(Steelers vs. Colts, 2014)
“We just work,” said Roethlisberger. “We know we have a lot of catching up to do, especially with the younger guys. We work on the practice field, and we even talk on the way in and out of the walkthroughs, just making sure they know exactly what they’re doing. If people don’t know about them yet, that’s fine. Let’s keep ’em under the radar.”
Roethlisberger was also well-protected by a maligned line. “I am going to play as well as my line plays in front of me, and today they drove this train,” Roethlisberger said. “Today they were great.”

As was their quarterback. “A.B. [Brown] would say some things to me in the huddle about the kind of day I was having,” Roethlisberger said, “but I don’t know my stats. I never do. I’ve never been a stat guy. I’m just trying to make plays to help us win.”

“Was this the best day you’ve ever had in the NFL, personally?” I asked.

“If you’re a numbers guy—and I’m not—I guess you’d say yes. But I still see two or three plays I left out on the field that bug me a little bit. I can make more plays.”

The Steelers are the strangest good team in football. They’ve embarrassed 2013 division champs Carolina and Indianapolis—and been embarrassed by Tampa Bay and Cleveland. But they’re smack dab in the middle of the AFC North race now. Baltimore, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh are two games over .500; Cleveland is one over. Baltimore and Pittsburgh meet on Sunday night this week, then the Steelers play at the 1-7 Jets and 2-6 Titans, and then they have their bye. “Why does it have to stop here?” Roethlisberger said he told the team afterward. “Why can’t we keep doing this?”
 
Also, does anyone else think their should be an asterisk beside Marcia's record every time they flash it about a QB's record in their first 150 games?

Three of them.
 
We gave up almost 500 yards and 34 points , yeah we are awesome
Stab yourself in the eyes and ears and we won't have a problem. You won't be able to see or hear the games...
we did beat the Colts, right? Reading this thread, it doesn't seem like it. It was a big win and not many saw happening to this degree. Just enjoy it. We saw history. We beat JJ Watt and Andrew Luck back to back. That's pretty damn cool.

Exactly...
 
No one wants to take anything away from ben , it was the greatest passing game in Steeler history. I responded to another poster saying it was the 2nd greatest passing game in NFL, it wasn't not even close. Throwing for 497 yards n only 15 completions with 6 TDs in 1972 dwarfs anything done in todays watered down pass friendly NFL.

That was NOT the greatest game by a QB, First off he was 15 for 28, that is to say he had a 54% completion percentage Almost his career average... That was the average of a good QB in the 70's... 50%... these days the number is 60%... but passing for 54% in an era when 50% was good is not the same as passing for over 80% when 60% is good. Also if you want to factor in eras.... it was not uncommon for players to have high yards per attempt or completion in the 60's and 70's... in fact of the top 50 all time games in average per attempt, only 3 have come in the past ten years, none are higher than 30th. Namath trhew an Interception that game as well...

The best game ever is thought to be YA tittles game vs the Redskins. This is second best after that... deal with it hater
 
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