Yet again proving how completely out of touch you are with reality. Shake hands with deljzc, you two take the cake for completely missing the mark on Bernie's concepts and policies. You guys kept repeating your own lies and misrepresentations, that in the end you believed your own bullshit.
the liberal media elite have suddenly stopped calling him socialist. He’s now cleaned up as a “progressive” or “pragmatist.”
Rewind to 1964.
While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”
This subversive hero of Sanders, denounced even by liberal Democrats as a “traitor,” bashed “the barons of Wall Street” and hailed the “triumphant” Bolshevik revolution in Russia.
“Those Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,” Debs proclaimed. “They have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.”
In a 1918 speech in Canton, Ohio, Debs reaffirmed his solidarity with Lenin and Trotsky, despite clear evidence of their violent plunder and treachery.
Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office.
In the early ’70s, Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies.
After failed runs for Congress, Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor “does not believe in free enterprise.”
His radical activities didn’t stop at the *water’s edge.
Sanders took several “goodwill” trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.
In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.
His betrayal did not end there. Sanders lobbied the White House to stop the proxy war and even tried to broker a peace deal. He adopted Managua as a sister city and invited Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega to visit the US. He exalted Ortega as “an impressive guy,” while attacking President Reagan.
“The Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people — substantially more support — than Ronald Reagan has among the American people,” Sanders told Vermont government-access TV in 1985.
Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.
Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”
Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.
I DO find it surprising that you, and so many, would openly and willingly vote for a Communist. That you're either too stupid to understand the perils, or that you've become such lemmings that you buy the deceit and lies that the man is a "Democratic Socialist" like FDR. Re-read his history above. Re-read it a hundred times, I ask you, and for once open your eyes.
I can see where so many of today's youth would pull for him because he is promising so much free stuff. I would wager that a majority of his backers do not pay taxes.
As far as Tibs goes,,,I have never been sure what his deal is and with all due respect to him for being a Steeler Fan, the guy doesn't even live in the States. Is he or has he ever been a citizen of the United States? He could be Cat Stevens for all I know but I'm not sure how his opinion on how we should run our country would matter to anyone who is actually sitting on US soil. That would equate to me advising someone living in Hungary on how they should run their government. I'd have nothing but the basis for how things run here (or attempt to) to base my arguments.
Indeed, that is the case. I'm an American living and working abroad. I initially planned to stay in Europe for a year or two, but business opportunities arose, and I've founded and manage several businesses over the past 15 years that keep me busy. At some stage, I may well return to CA or elsewhere. For now, I'm happy to visit as often as I can. Our three children will be getting ready for college in a few years, they too may return stateside at some point.My understanding is that Tibs grew up in the states and is a citizen that lives in Hungary.
http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/counting-uncountable-overseas-americansThe Federal Voting Assistance Program (FVAP), tasked with assisting overseas Americans with voting, estimates 4.5 million to 6.5 million overseas Americans.
Indeed, that is the case. I'm an American living and working abroad. I initially planned to stay in Europe for a year or two, but business opportunities arose, and I've founded and manage several businesses over the past 15 years that keep me busy. At some stage, I may well return to CA or elsewhere.
Interesting to note, I am among millions of so called ex-pat Americans spread around the globe. In Budapest, there are probably a few hundred Americans living and working here, also in business, or at the Embassy or the American school. The majority, but not all, are Republicans, for the better or worse.
I DO find it surprising that you, and so many, would openly and willingly vote for a Communist. That you're either too stupid to understand the perils, or that you've become such lemmings that you buy the deceit and lies that the man is a "Democratic Socialist" like FDR. Re-read his history above. Re-read it a hundred times, I ask you, and for once open your eyes.
It's funny/ironic how you - and others - love to throw that term around. As smart as you think you are, you simply don't understand the concept of communism, and how it doesn't relate to anything Bernie Sanders is suggesting. But I do understand how it narrows everything down for you into simple soundbites that makes it easier to dismiss out of hand. To each his own.I guess it's just our luck we get the one communist....
That sounds great and all but there's no BEACH! If I moved back for anything, it would be for the sun & surf. I miss that more than anything (especially these past few years that I've been able to watch live Steelers games on nfl game pass). The only thing I truly miss from southern Cali is living near the beach and going body surfing...You want my take? If you can run your business in Nevada or Arizona, do so - the housing costs are much more reasonable, traffic is vastly better, and the quality of life is just better.
It's funny/ironic how you - and others - love to throw that term around. As smart as you think you are, you simply don't understand the concept of communism, and how it doesn't relate to anything Bernie Sanders is suggesting. But I do understand how it narrows everything down for you into simple soundbites that makes it easier to dismiss out of hand. To each his own.
Perhaps you can explain to us the difference.
: a way of organizing a society in which the government owns the things that are used to make and transport products (such as land, oil, factories, ships, etc.) and there is no privately owned property
My wife has a co-worker who was born in Hungary and her parents came over to make a ton of money and went back. They were full citizens of the US too. I recall having dinner at their house and they had nothing nice to say about the US. They just used what the country had to offer and left. I have no doubt their daughter will do the same. She's borderline communist as well. I guess you can take a commie out of a former communist country but can't take the commie out of them.
It's funny/ironic how you - and others - love to throw that term around. As smart as you think you are, you simply don't understand the concept of communism, and how it doesn't relate to anything Bernie Sanders is suggesting. But I do understand how it narrows everything down for you into simple soundbites that makes it easier to dismiss out of hand. To each his own.
That sounds great and all but there's no BEACH! If I moved back for anything, it would be for the sun & surf. I miss that more than anything (especially these past few years that I've been able to watch live Steelers games on nfl game pass). The only thing I truly miss from southern Cali is living near the beach and going body surfing...