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Can a defensive player win the Heisman Again? Coolie Pimps Ed Oliver

What would it cost the STEELERS to move from 32 to first overall.............. Could we trade BELL?????

Seriously, that is the sad part of always picking at the bottom end. You never get shots at the easy, no risk player such as Oliver or this year's Barckley. Don't get me wrong because I like the fact we are always picking lower end of round. It's just these guys will go to some douche bag team that may never contend. Obviously Cleveland add in Buffalo, Cincinnatti, San Diego, Jets. When is the last time PITTSBURGH picked before 15th???

Oliver will be A STUD and if he stays healthy may very well win the Heisman, I sure hope so.


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What would it cost the STEELERS to move from 32 to first overall.............. Could we trade BELL?????

Seriously, that is the sad part of always picking at the bottom end. You never get shots at the easy, no risk player such as Oliver or this year's Barckley. Don't get me wrong because I like the fact we are always picking lower end of round. It's just these guys will go to some douche bag team that may never contend. Obviously Cleveland add in Buffalo, Cincinnatti, San Diego, Jets. When is the last time PITTSBURGH picked before 15th???

Oliver will be A STUD and if he stays healthy may very well win the Heisman, I sure hope so.


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I think if we trade Bell and throw in Fu and a 4th rounder...he could be ours
 
yeah those videos pop up on twitter now and then...he is really quick for such a big guy
 
I truely want this kid Oliver to succeed and take home a trophy Heisman to boot. I always root for an underdog but truthfully Mr. Oliver isn't an "underdog" as he is right in the mix of the best "D" player in college football,.....and NOT the ***** soccer football kind.



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He has no shot at heisman. The south cabal won't vote for him. Saquon Barkley was the best player in college last year by a ridiculous margin and he had no shot at at.

These days it seems they give it to either a QB who puts up crazy stats in a spread or a mediocre Alabama RB
 
He has no shot at heisman. The south cabal won't vote for him. Saquon Barkley was the best player in college last year by a ridiculous margin and he had no shot at at.

These days it seems they give it to either a QB who puts up crazy stats in a spread or a mediocre Alabama RB

Yeah, I don'e see how any of those qbs should have beaten out Barkley last season...none of them were all that....

Likely the best Oliver can hope for is being invited to the ceremony to watch some qb get the award

but he should still go very high in the draft....
 
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His ability is EXTREMELY high, his underdog is heisman trophy. As with most alcolades it's a popularity contest.



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why yes there has been more written about by boy Ed Oliver


http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23564026/college-football-season-100-days-kickoff

Schlabach: It's funny you mention defensive linemen. I'm starting to think this might very well be the Year of the Defensive Lineman (25). Did you notice that our buddy Todd McShay had Houston's Ed Oliver, Ohio State's Nick Bosa and Michigan's Rashan Gary going Nos. 1-3 in his first NFL mock draft for 2019 (26)? In fact, McShay projected 11 defensive linemen being selected in the first round, and Mel Kiper Jr. had 10 in the top 25 players of his initial 2019 Big Board. The big uglies might rule college football this coming season.

McGee: Ed Oliver might be the best football player in the country, regardless of school, conference or position (27). He won't win the Heisman Trophy, because a defensive lineman will never win it. But when we were at the Home Depot College Football Awards Show in Atlanta in December, there were two guys every other player wanted to meet: Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield and Oliver.

Schlabach: Why don't we start Oliver's Heisman campaign today?
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-18-defensive-prospects-who-will-be-nfl-stars

RANK

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Ed Oliver - DT
School: Houston

Oliver is the top player on my list for the second straight year. He can play anywhere on the line, and has rare sideline-to-sideline range for a 300-pound interior player. He's a difference maker who should garner Heisman consideration in 2018, but probably won't get his proper due With the quickness to put blockers at an immediate disadvantage, and the strength to overpower them, Oliver rises from No. 8 on last year's list to No. 1 this season. In 2017, he became the first sophomore to win the Outland Trophy (nation's top interior lineman) in the award's 72-year history. In two seasons with the Cougars, he's racked up 39.5 tackles for loss. For an interior player who is the weekly focus of opposing offensive line coaches, that's the definition of dominance. Oliver has already announced he intends to enter the 2019 NFL Draft.. Oliver has already stated that he intends to apply for early entry in the 2019 NFL Draft.
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ext-big-thing-evaluating-houston-dt-ed-oliver

It's unusual for an underclassman to declare for the NFL draft before his would-be final college season begins, but Houston defensive tackle Ed Oliver did just that, announcing in March that he intends to enter the 2019 draft. While the news sent shockwaves through the national media due to the timing of his announcement, scouts have been following Oliver's progress since he stepped onto the scene in 2016 as a five-star recruit with a polished game that was ideally suited for the pros.


The 6-foot-2, 290-pound playmaker flashed big-time potential as a true freshman in a marquee tilt against Oklahoma. With that spectacular debut (seven tackles, including two sacks) setting the table for an impressive two-year run that has seen him tally 39.5 tackles for loss in 25 career games, Oliver is already a household name in the scouting community.

Considering his position (nose tackle), and his less-than-ideal height, Oliver's inclusion in the conversation of college football's elite prospects speaks volumes about his immense talent and potential as a disruptive interior player.

He shows rare first-step quickness, lateral movement skills, explosive strength and hustle for a pass-rushing defensive tackle playing as a one-technique (shaded nose tackle) in a three-man front. Oliver combines his explosive athleticism with outstanding instincts, awareness and snap-count anticipation. With the Cougars employing a movement-based scheme that allows him to loop and stunt on a number of pass-rush attempts, the junior flashes the kind of versatility/variety that we commonly see from elite inside defenders.

As a run defender, Oliver shows terrific skills shooting gaps and taking on blockers at the point of attack. He routinely slips through cracks on slants and angled rushes while also showing exceptional strength and power. He bullies blockers on forklift maneuvers and bull rushes.


Oliver is capable of winning with finesse or power on the inside, but he wins most of his snaps by outworking his opponent at the line of scrimmage. Whether it's using a second or third move on a rush or simply running down a ball carrier from behind on a chase play, Oliver's energy and effort jump off the screen. In fact, it reminds me a lot of Sheldon Richardson's tape when I watched him make a ton of energy plays at Missouri as a disruptive playmaker.

From a critical standpoint, Oliver will need to show scouts that he can be a consistent sack producer to maximize his value in the draft. Despite his impressive TFL (tackles for loss) totals, Oliver has just 10.5 career sacks to his credit. It's worth noting that elite sack artists' production in college routinely matches their pro performance. For example, Aaron Donald tallied 66 tackles for loss and 29.5 sacks, including a pair of 11-sack seasons, during his three seasons at Pittsburgh. Thus, his emergence as the NFL's top defensive player isn't necessarily a surprise (39 sacks in four NFL seasons).

With impressive flashes as a pass rusher but only modest sack production, Oliver has to show evaluators that he can get home routinely despite facing double teams from opponents on passing downs. Considering how elite pass rushers are expected to win in difficult circumstances, Oliver's production should reflect his impact if he wants to be valued as a top rusher.

Overall, Oliver heads into his junior campaign viewed as one of the top defensive prospects in college football. As a disruptive interior defender with pass-rush skills, he could be a hot commodity in a 2019 draft that's expected to be loaded with ultra-talented defensive big bodies that offer diverse skill sets. If Oliver can build upon a pair of solid campaigns in which he displayed dynamic flashes, he has a chance to emerge as the top interior defensive lineman in the class.
 
I see him as a top 5 at worst. (Barring injury of course)

I could see him going one or two overall, with only the QB position possibly being able to change the ranking.
 
Never say NEVER but VERY slim chance the STEELERS could end up with him. Of all the sure "play-makers" we have it would be a welcome experience to get a sure one on DEFENSE.



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trade Bell, Fu and a 4th rounder to whoever has the #1 pick next year
 
wow...Sports Illustrated still has at least one intelligent writer

https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/06/21/top-100-player-rankings-ed-oliver-bryce-love

1. ED OLIVER, DT, HOUSTON
We’ve been waiting to unequivocally say “Ed Oliver is the best player in the country” for two long years, ever since he sacked Baker Mayfield twice in the first game of the 2016 season and it was pointed out that that was a true freshman out there, terrorizing Oklahoma and its future Heisman winner on national television in his college debut. After two years of watching the 6'3", 290-pound former five-star recruit slice through offensive lines that spent all week worrying about containing him, swim through the backfield with the agility of a cornerback and rip down ballcarriers with one hand, it’s clear now that there’s no one else like Oliver in the country.

His 39.5 tackles for loss over two seasons (2017 included a knee injury that held Oliver back in a couple of games) can’t be chalked up to the quality of his regular competition. In fact, in one sense the AAC, with its abundance of quick-strike offenses and shifty playmakers, is the perfect setting to marvel at the way Oliver storms the pocket with no regard for who’s trying to block him, blowing up plays before they get off the ground.


His early-March announcement that he would declare for the 2019 NFL draft—before the 2018 draft had taken place—appropriately set the expectations for his junior season. Pull up his official player page on the Houston Athletics website here in mid-June and note that a UH sports information department staffer has helpfully listed no fewer than 54 honors bestowed upon him in the two years and change he has been a Cougar. Every p.r. flex has been deserved, and there will be more to come when the 2019 draft cycle begins in earnest and he finds himself on the short list for the No. 1 overall pick. But first, he has one last fall filled with superhuman highlights for college fans to enjoy.
 
wow...Sports Illustrated still has at least one intelligent writer

https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/06/21/top-100-player-rankings-ed-oliver-bryce-love

1. ED OLIVER, DT, HOUSTON
We’ve been waiting to unequivocally say “Ed Oliver is the best player in the country” for two long years, ever since he sacked Baker Mayfield twice in the first game of the 2016 season and it was pointed out that that was a true freshman out there, terrorizing Oklahoma and its future Heisman winner on national television in his college debut. After two years of watching the 6'3", 290-pound former five-star recruit slice through offensive lines that spent all week worrying about containing him, swim through the backfield with the agility of a cornerback and rip down ballcarriers with one hand, it’s clear now that there’s no one else like Oliver in the country.

His 39.5 tackles for loss over two seasons (2017 included a knee injury that held Oliver back in a couple of games) can’t be chalked up to the quality of his regular competition. In fact, in one sense the AAC, with its abundance of quick-strike offenses and shifty playmakers, is the perfect setting to marvel at the way Oliver storms the pocket with no regard for who’s trying to block him, blowing up plays before they get off the ground.


His early-March announcement that he would declare for the 2019 NFL draft—before the 2018 draft had taken place—appropriately set the expectations for his junior season. Pull up his official player page on the Houston Athletics website here in mid-June and note that a UH sports information department staffer has helpfully listed no fewer than 54 honors bestowed upon him in the two years and change he has been a Cougar. Every p.r. flex has been deserved, and there will be more to come when the 2019 draft cycle begins in earnest and he finds himself on the short list for the No. 1 overall pick. But first, he has one last fall filled with superhuman highlights for college fans to enjoy.

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Coolie, thanks for posting the current write up. It would be so refreshing if these accolades (heisman and others) would actually vote the best players and not the reputation machine(s) into their awards. Fan's would actually probably start watching with real interest. Heisman and other(s) have been a scam for some time now. Again thanks




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omar feel free to post your own thoughts on Oliver....oh yeah you've never seen him play....
 
omar feel free to post your own thoughts on Oliver....oh yeah you've never seen him play....



Can't you see in his PIC he is busy..............................................





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omar feel free to post your own thoughts on Oliver....oh yeah you've never seen him play....

Hey, I think he's great. So great, in fact, that I light a fart in approval of him
 
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