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Census: Whites become 'minority' in 2044, 'Hispanic population twice blacks'

Yeah they're not racist at all......
This is why i hardly come on here anymore

Yeah, you lying, bottom-feeding scum.

You were too spineless and cowardly to admit when you changed your user name with the new invocation of Steeler Nation, insisting that Polo43 was not you.

Once you were too cowardly to admit that you and Polo43 are in the same, you sealed your fate as the biggest queef-sniffing cockholster in the history of Steeler Nation.

A history made more proud with your disappearance, of course.
 
Yeah, you lying, bottom-feeding scum.

You were too spineless and cowardly to admit when you changed your user name with the new invocation of Steeler Nation, insisting that Polo43 was not you.

Once you were too cowardly to admit that you and Polo43 are in the same, you sealed your fate as the biggest queef-sniffing cockholster in the history of Steeler Nation.

A history made more proud with your disappearance, of course.

??????? Polo43... Whatever. I guess i'm still in your head whoever you are!
 
I've read this board, in it's many iterations, for quite some time. I have found that there are 4 subjects that cannot be discussed in any reasonable fashion here:

1) Evolution

2) Israel

3) Age of Consent

4) Race

Any one of those will start a firestorm of f-bombs and flying monkey poo. People here tend to argue their prejudices rather than objective facts, and do so with the least amount of civility possible. As a result, many of the very reasonable posters have left Steeler Nation entirely, or simply avoid the G&G forum. And it's too bad, because there was a time when some constructive discussion was had here.
 
I've read this board, in it's many iterations, for quite some time. I have found that there are 4 subjects that cannot be discussed in any reasonable fashion here:

1) Evolution

2) Israel

3) Age of Consent

4) Race

Any one of those will start a firestorm of f-bombs and flying monkey poo. People here tend to argue their prejudices rather than objective facts, and do so with the least amount of civility possible. As a result, many of the very reasonable posters have left Steeler Nation entirely, or simply avoid the G&G forum. And it's too bad, because there was a time when some constructive discussion was had here.

You ever post a link about a 15 year old, black, jew disproving creationism... Oh man is it on.
 
Right will always be right and wrong will always be wrong no matter how many people are doing it at the time. You can choose to believe any damn thing you want,but it will never change that absolute. I could care less about debate and arguing with complete strangers about the absolutes that anyone who isn't completely lost knows deep down inside.
 
I've read this board, in it's many iterations, for quite some time. I have found that there are 4 subjects that cannot be discussed in any reasonable fashion here:

1) Evolution

2) Israel

3) Age of Consent

4) Race

Any one of those will start a firestorm of f-bombs and flying monkey poo. People here tend to argue their prejudices rather than objective facts, and do so with the least amount of civility possible. As a result, many of the very reasonable posters have left Steeler Nation entirely, or simply avoid the G&G forum. And it's too bad, because there was a time when some constructive discussion was had here.

You need to spend more time here. If you did, you'd see the hot button topics are, not in any particular order:

1. Islam and the West
2. Race and double standards
3. Morality of Abortion
4. Obama and AHCA

I can't remember the last time that Israel was a big issue, and age of consent was only an issue with one poster. And as far as arguing prejudices, they are only prejudices when conservatives own them. When libs do, they are opinions. When it comes to producing facts, libs usually end up falling short.
 
This is why i hardly come on here anymore

Well, that and being banned. That's funny stuff.

I've read this board, in it's many iterations, for quite some time. I have found that there are 4 subjects that cannot be discussed in any reasonable fashion here:

1) Evolution

2) Israel

3) Age of Consent

4) Race

Any one of those will start a firestorm of f-bombs and flying monkey poo. People here tend to argue their prejudices rather than objective facts, and do so with the least amount of civility possible. As a result, many of the very reasonable posters have left Steeler Nation entirely, or simply avoid the G&G forum. And it's too bad, because there was a time when some constructive discussion was had here.

Do tell?
 
Nobody actually said the USA wasn't worth living in if whites aren't the majority. But its easier to shout Racism than have a conversation about why a balkanized hodge podge of cultures would be a bad thing.
 
You need to spend more time here. If you did, you'd see the hot button topics are, not in any particular order:

1. Islam and the West
2. Race and double standards
3. Morality of Abortion
4. Obama and AHCA

I can't remember the last time that Israel was a big issue, and age of consent was only an issue with one poster. And as far as arguing prejudices, they are only prejudices when conservatives own them. When libs do, they are opinions. When it comes to producing facts, libs usually end up falling short.

My list is over probably the last decade or so. Lately, you're right, it's been more narrowly focused on the topics you mentioned.

As for producing "facts", this board is as good at distorting statistical information as any group I've ever seen. A fact is only worth the context it's used in.
 
I wonder how Iran/Iraq/Syria/Egypt/Libya/Pakistan/any other Islamic country would feel about having a bunch of outsiders moving in? Just curious.
 
I wonder how Iran/Iraq/Syria/Egypt/Libya/Pakistan/any other Islamic country would feel about having a bunch of outsiders moving in? Just curious.

And exactly which of those countries should the United States aspire do be?

Yeah. Thought so.

As fascistic as so many of you right wingers are in your views, it does not at all surprise me that you wish America to be more fascist. Perhaps you'd be happier in some of those right wing mid-east havens.
 
And exactly which of those countries should the United States aspire do be?

Yeah. Thought so.
None, because they are third world shitholes.

As fascistic as so many of you right wingers are in your views, it does not at all surprise me that you wish America to be more fascist. Perhaps you'd be happier in some of those right wing mid-east havens.
You have no understanding of the word "fascist".
 
None, because they are third world shitholes.


You have no understanding of the word "fascist".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

"Radical authoritarian nationalism"

And that definition perfectly sums up the right wing views of this forum.
 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

"Radical authoritarian nationalism"

And that definition perfectly sums up the right wing views of this forum.
Wiki doesn't count around here. Fascism is government control of private business with generous favors dispensed to those businesses friendly with the government, along with a healthy dose of Socialism.
Sound familiar?
Most of us here that you call Tea Baggers and Fascists are really Libertarians who want the government to get smaller and leave us alone.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

fas·cism noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government

: very harsh control or authority

Full Definition of FASCISM

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>
— fas·cist noun or adjective often capitalized
— fas·cis·tic adjective often capitalized
— fas·cis·ti·cal·ly adverb often capitalized
See fascism defined for English-language learners »
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Examples of FASCISM

the rise of Fascism in Europe before World War II
From the first hours of Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union, the propagandists on both sides of the conflict portrayed the struggle in stark, Manichaean language. The totalitarian nature of both regimes made this inevitable. On one side stood Hitler, fascism, the myth of German supremacy; on the other side stood Stalin, communism, and the international proletarian revolution. —Anne Applebaum, New York Review of Books, 25 Oct. 2007
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Origin of FASCISM

Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
First Known Use: 1921
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fascism noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state's authority, and harsh suppression of dissent. Martial virtues are celebrated, while liberal and democratic values are disparaged. Fascism arose during the 1920s and '30s partly out of fear of the rising power of the working classes; it differed from contemporary communism (as practiced under Joseph Stalin) by its protection of business and landowning elites and its preservation of class systems.* The leaders of the fascist governments of Italy (1922–43), Germany (1933–45), and Spain (1939–75)—Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, and Francisco Franco—were portrayed to their publics as embodiments of the strength and resolve necessary to rescue their nations from political and economic chaos. Japanese fascists (1936–45) fostered belief in the uniqueness of the Japanese spirit and taught subordination to the state and personal sacrifice. See also totalitarianism; neofascism.

* Six of the top ten wealthiest counties in the U.S. are in the D.C. metro area and suburbs. Bomma isn't spreading the wealth very far.
 
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Terms like racist and fascist are so inappropriately over used by the left, that they have essentially become meaningless.
 
Wiki doesn't count around here. Fascism is government control of private business with generous favors dispensed to those businesses friendly with the government, along with a healthy dose of Socialism.
Sound familiar?
Most of us here that you call Tea Baggers and Fascists are really Libertarians who want the government to get smaller and leave us alone.




* Six of the top ten wealthiest counties in the U.S. are in the D.C. metro area and suburbs. Bomma isn't spreading the wealth very far.

Fascism, using your own definition:

Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state's authority, and harsh suppression of dissent.

This is an apt description of the police nut hugging that goes on around here. As long as it's "those people" getting choked and shot, you're all for the jack booted state thugs in NYPD uniforms. This is you, without question. The cognitive dissonance comes from you pretending that local autorities and their violent tactics are somehow not representative of the state. Which they are. And that these drug and gun laws which precipitate police contact are legitimate in the first place, which they are not. Gun and drug laws are nakedly unconstitutional. In fact, the constructive possession doctrine flies in the face of your right to due process and presumption of innocence.

You are not libertarians, either. You abuse that word. Classical Liberalism would not allow for the kinds of social engineering laws that most of you right wingers support: banning gay marriage, drug laws, prostitution laws, gambling laws, polygamy laws, steroid laws, etc. Conservatives have co-oped the term "libertarian" to mean they hate taxes and gun laws. But they are all for big government regulating the sex lives and weekend pastimes of other people. How many of your fake libertarian "tea party" people supported Prop 8 here in CA?

You are NOT libertarians.
 
You have absolutely no concept of the difference between Republicans, Conservatives, and Libertarians.

Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state's authority, and harsh suppression of dissent.
You have no concept of irony either.
 
You have absolutely no concept of the difference between Republicans, Conservatives, and Libertarians.


You have no concept of irony either.

I realize now (probably too late) that you're just talking and not really saying anything. You want to make adorable comments rather than have a discussion, so be my guest.

I drew clear distinctions between those who claim to be libertarians (i.e. conservative fakes) and actual Classical Liberals. If the truth hurts your ears, then by all means jam your fingers in deeper and yell "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA".

You ain't no libertarian.
 
I realize now (probably too late) that you're just talking and not really saying anything. You want to make adorable comments rather than have a discussion, so be my guest.
You're a moron and there is no point trying to talk sense to you.

I drew clear distinctions between those who claim to be libertarians (i.e. conservative fakes) and actual Classical Liberals. If the truth hurts your ears, then by all means jam your fingers in deeper and yell "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA".
Libertarians and Classic Liberals as you call them are not the same thing either.

You ain't no libertarian.
Never said I was. There is some overlap for sure, just like there is between the aforementioned groups and Democrats and Liberals. I consider myself a Conservative Libertarian, as far as I think that the government should not spend more than it takes in, should not for the most part buy votes by transferring money from one person to another, should not tax one person at a different rate than another. I also don't think there should be property tax, inheritance, tax, and I think that weed, prostitution, and abortion should all be legal. These days it is the Liberal Democrats who are all about social engineering and control and bringing the iron fist of government down on those they disagree with. I don't think the government should tell me how much water my toilet uses, what kind of light bulb I have to buy, or how much mpg my car has to get either. As far as drug laws, if you don't like the laws then work to elect people who will change them (within Constitutional limits of course). That and the stop and frisk etc. that you don't like, it seems like mostly a black inner-city issue, and virtually every large city in America has a Democrat mayor and a Democrat controlled city council. The Republicans/Conservatives/Tea Party that you think is all the same thing don't have much to do with it. The biggest shitholes in America are Chicago, Gary, IN, Memphis, TN, New Orleans, and Detroit, which have all been totally run by Democrats since about forever. (I'm assuming you're a Democrat, correct me if I'm wrong.)

The path to success is statistically pretty clear. Finish high school, learn a skill or trade or otherwise further your education, don't do drugs, don't do crime, don't have kids until you're married, and don't get married until you have a job. Problem is that about half the black population ridicules those ideas and disrespects those in their own community who choose that path, call them sellouts, traitors to the race, Oreos, white talkin' sucker, whatever. As long as a large portion of the black community feels that way, they will continue to be second-class citizens dependent on the government. It's not because they're black, it's because they're stupid. Which is fine with the government by the way.
Partly why I've said several times here recently (and sarcastically) that it is racist to hold black people to white peoples' standards of behavior.
The problem is in your house, not mine.
 
You're a moron and there is no point trying to talk sense to you.

Oh yeah. That is some good butt-hurt right there. Does it burn, son? Does it burn...


Never said I was.

You strongly implied.

There is some overlap for sure, just like there is between the aforementioned groups and Democrats and Liberals. I consider myself a Conservative Libertarian,

There is no such thing. That's like saying you're a human martian or a canine cat. Conservatism is inherently authoritarian. It is one of the primary hallmarks of conservatives. That is why religion, that is why strict laws about personal conduct, that is why pro prosecution and pro police. Libertarians are highly anti-authoritarian, so you cannot be both.

as far as I think that the government should not spend more than it takes in, should not for the most part buy votes by transferring money from one person to another,

Many more votes are bought by campaign contributions and favor arbitrage. This is why Wall Street owns congress. And the POTUS, whomever he is.

should not tax one person at a different rate than another.

Agree.

I also don't think there should be property tax inheritance, tax, and I think that weed, prostitution, and abortion should all be legal.

Why just weed? The cartels and gang bangers are not filling the streets with bullets over just weed. The prison system is not busting at the seems over just weed. Moreover, the most fundamental tenant of liberty is self ownership. If you believe that the state has the right to tell you what you can and cannot put into your body, you have seeded ownership of your person to the state. A libertarian would never make such a concession.

These days it is the Liberal Democrats who are all about social engineering and control and bringing the iron fist of government down on those they disagree with.

Conservatives do the same thing. See gay marriage, abortion, prostitution, gambling etc. It seems you can only see it when it's the other team. Yet another mark of the partisan conservative. Libertarians, real ones, advocate abolishing ALL SOCIAL ENGINEERING LAWS. There are only 3 real crimes: violent crime, property crime, and political corruption. Things like possession crime, prostitution, so called "date rape" (two drunks *******), and the like do not fall into either one of those categories. No harm is done, no injury incurred, and for that reason these laws are illegitimate.

I don't think the government should tell me how much water my toilet uses, what kind of light bulb I have to buy, or how much mpg my car has to get either.

Agree. Although the emission standards and domestic oil production combined to crash oil prices and destroy Putin's economy, so it hasn't been all bad.

As far as drug laws, if you don't like the laws then work to elect people who will change them (within Constitutional limits of course). That and the stop and frisk etc. that you don't like, it seems like mostly a black inner-city issue, and virtually every large city in America has a Democrat mayor and a Democrat controlled city council.

As stated (by you above) Democrats and "liberals" are no fans of liberty. They contribute just as much to the prison industrial complex as conservatives and Republicans do. It's a system that is profitable for both parties and ideologies. Libertarians seek to break that cycle, but lack the deep Wall Street pockets to affect change. Most people (on the left and right) are poorly informed cowards. They prefer the appearance of safety and security to the tangible reality of liberty. Both parties pander to that cowardice and contribute to the problem.

The Republicans/Conservatives/Tea Party that you think is all the same thing don't have much to do with it.

This is right wing tripe. It's a cute sounding Fox News talking point, but as stated above, holds no water. The right loves to scare the hell out of the middle class so they can jam "tough on crime" legislation through congress and local governments. They are the first ones to cry and ***** about how "hard it is" to be a cop every time the cops kill someone they shouldn't, rather than demanding of them the same justice they demand of citizens who kill unlawfully. The right is anything but innocent.

The biggest shitholes in America are Chicago, Gary, IN, Memphis, TN, New Orleans, and Detroit, which have all been totally run by Democrats since about forever. (I'm assuming you're a Democrat, correct me if I'm wrong.)

You are wrong. I'm a Civil Libertarian. A real one. I think both sides are massively full of ****. The left plays the middle class against the rich and white, the right plays the middle class against the poor and dark. But it's the same game: divide, conquer, and collect more campaign donations and favors (like high paid do-nothing jobs when you leave public office).

The path to success is statistically pretty clear. Finish high school, learn a skill or trade or otherwise further your education, don't do drugs, don't do crime, don't have kids until you're married, and don't get married until you have a job.

Agree completely. And it's easier to accomplish these things if your life isn't derailed by your youthful indiscretions. You really should do some checking into the differences in juvenile sentencing. Suburban white kids get into the same trouble as Black kids, but the system does not eat them alive for it. They can do drugs pretty much with impunity because they're not going to be routinely searched (and arrested) by the cops.

Problem is that about half the black population ridicules those ideas and disrespects those in their own community who choose that path, call them sellouts, traitors to the race, Oreos, white talkin' sucker, whatever.

I've started really wondering if any of you actually know any Black people. There is a great variety of thought amongst Blacks, and your assumptions here represent only one faction. And lets not pretend nerds don't get it in the suburbs too, they do. Poor people in general tend not to value education, and Blacks are disproportionately poor.

As long as a large portion of the black community feels that way, they will continue to be second-class citizens dependent on the government. It's not because they're black, it's because they're stupid. Which is fine with the government by the way.
Partly why I've said several times here recently (and sarcastically) that it is racist to hold black people to white peoples' standards of behavior.
The problem is in your house, not mine.

You are the only one insisting that the problem is racial. I don't believe that at all. Everything you've said about "half of Blacks" I've observed in poor whites. But the system should not be exacerbating the problem by using the criminal justice system to disenfranchise the poor. This is what big government social engineering laws do. The largest fully funded welfare program in America (soup to nuts coverage of housing, food, clothing, medical care) is the prison system. And most of those people are not burglars, rapists, or murderers.

Social engineering is a waste of valuable resources better put to more effective use. Moreover, it does more harm to poor people and minorities than it does good to the larger society, so for wholly pragmatic reasons we would do well to abolish it. That is the Civil Libertarian viewpoint. Since you appear not to share it, you're more of a moderate conservative than a libertarian.
 
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