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Charlotte Shooting Video: Footage Shows Fatal Encounter

This is the way I see it. You can't have it both ways. So many young black men embrace a culture of violence. They aspire to be "thugs" and "gangstas" and all that bullshit. The music that so many of them listen to glorifies violence and the idea that it is a good thing to be feared among your peers as a person that won't hesitate to " pop a cap in someone's ***". You want to live by that code, go right ahead... but don't turn around and get pissed off and call other people racists when they encounter a young black man and make an assumption that there is more than an average chance that this person may be armed and dangerous.

But you are offering the very example of racist thinking. Yes, some black guys embrace a violent culture, and being thug and all that. And there are many whites who live that exact same culture, carry guns, want to shoot people, etc.

The whole point is that cops should not be trigger happy just because someone is black. And obviously, they are. It seems like every week another unarmed black man is killed by cops while never posing a real threat.

How many more of these murders do we need to see before we seek a solution?

Obviously, the establishment doesn't want cops punished and gets them out of trouble for murder as much as possible but finally the people are saying "enough is enough" and cops will start being held more accountable as it appears the lady cop is, as she has been charged for a crime. That was not happening up until now; she flat out murdered an unarmed man with his hands up. If you don't see anything wrong with that, you have a problem.
 
If they keep killing career criminals then eventually we won't need a solution.
 
But you are offering the very example of racist thinking. Yes, some black guys embrace a violent culture, and being thug and all that. And there are many whites who live that exact same culture, carry guns, want to shoot people, etc.

The whole point is that cops should not be trigger happy just because someone is black. And obviously, they are. It seems like every week another unarmed black man is killed by cops while never posing a real threat.

How many more of these murders do we need to see before we seek a solution?

Obviously, the establishment doesn't want cops punished and gets them out of trouble for murder as much as possible but finally the people are saying "enough is enough" and cops will start being held more accountable as it appears the lady cop is, as she has been charged for a crime. That was not happening up until now; she flat out murdered an unarmed man with his hands up. If you don't see anything wrong with that, you have a problem.

how do you figure that? do you base your opinion on the volume of police interactions with the black community which include nonchalant shooting the **** communications, stopping someone and giving them a "warning" instead of a ticket, ticketing them, arresting them? please, use a graph or pie chart to show how you reached the conclusion that cops are "obviously" trigger happy.
 
but wait ... there's more. why did the cops approach him in the first place?

http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/keit...-before-the-shooting-of-keith-scott/326888993



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Yea, that doesn't sound like a made up story full of bull **** or anything. Cops think that if they mention "drugs" it's like a golden ticket for assuming anything that goes down, such as shooting a man, is OK, because, well, he "had drugs" - never mind that weed is basically harmless and will be legal in most stats sooner rather than later. So, in highly charged event, such as killing a man, they wouldn't immediately have photos of this guys gun?
 
Come on now Supe, you know that's not what went down.

These evil racist cops had just finished their donuts and were bored. "Whaddya want to do?" asks one. "I don't know, let's go kill some innocent black guy for kicks."

They decide to pull up to next to unsuspecting Scott who is sitting there reading a book in broad daylight in front of numerous witnesses.. They scream "DROP THE GUN!" over and over, ya know, for the benefit of the witnesses. Scott gets out of the car with his book and they continue to scream "DROP THE GUN" at him but obviously since he has a book he's confused.

I understand the confusion on both sides. Here is Scott's book:

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Black man can't read "Catcher in the Rye" without getting shot ...
 
Yea, that doesn't sound like a made up story full of bull **** or anything. Cops think that if they mention "drugs" it's like a golden ticket for assuming anything that goes down, such as shooting a man, is OK, because, well, he "had drugs" - never mind that weed is basically harmless and will be legal in most stats sooner rather than later. So, in highly charged event, such as killing a man, they wouldn't immediately have photos of this guys gun?

Did you not read the story ? It wasn't the weed it was the damn gun. That they can tie back to him.
 
how do you figure that? do you base your opinion on the volume of police interactions with the black community which include nonchalant shooting the **** communications, stopping someone and giving them a "warning" instead of a ticket, ticketing them, arresting them? please, use a graph or pie chart to show how you reached the conclusion that cops are "obviously" trigger happy.

Oh, well, gee whiz, I happen to have exactly what you asked for.

http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/

Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week. (See which police departments were responsible for these deaths)

Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting

37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population

Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015

Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Eric Harris) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. Deputy Bates, who killed Eric Harris, will be sentenced May 31.

Now what you got, Racist McGoo? Cops kill more unarmed blacks then whites, even though blacks on make up 13% of the population.

Get it? Got it? Proud to live racist?
 
If they keep killing career criminals then eventually we won't need a solution.

Yea, and, of course, they are also killing black college students who never get in trouble, but, don't worry your pretty little head about that; just pretend that those events never happen.
 
Oh, well, gee whiz, I happen to have exactly what you asked for.

http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/



Now what you got, Racist McGoo? Cops kill more unarmed blacks then whites, even though blacks on make up 13% of the population.

Get it? Got it? Proud to live racist?
no. absolutely not what i asked for.
in your ****** up mind, every time there is cop interaction with the black community, someone is being arrested or shot.
i want to see the TOTAL number of interactions (including a simple "Hello, how are you") up to and including shooting a perp.

until then, your bullshit statement of "obviously trigger happy" cops can get ****** like you and the horse you rode in on.
 
Now what you got, Racist McGoo? Cops kill more unarmed blacks then whites, even though blacks on make up 13% of the population.

Get it? Got it? Proud to live racist?

OH NOES!! HE BROKE OUT THE RACIST CARD!!!

What will you do, Supe, what will you do?!?!?

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Looks about right ...
 
Oh, I read that was their story, and we all know cops never lie, right? Cops are never corrupt liars or anything.

Yes, cops sometimes lie. But a lot of time they are telling the truth. I guess it's just a pure coincidence that this guy, targeted by police for nothing more than sitting there reading a book, just happens to be a career criminal with various felony weapons convictions who has shot someone, beats up on 8 year olds and threatens to kill his wife. What are the odds? Those cops sure did get lucky.

Use your brain. Use logic. Not every police shooting is some unjustified racially motivated conspiracy. Sometimes people get shot because they are bad people who do bad and incredibly stupid things.
 
Oh, well, gee whiz, I happen to have exactly what you asked for.

http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/



Now what you got, Racist McGoo? Cops kill more unarmed blacks then whites, even though blacks on make up 13% of the population.

Get it? Got it? Proud to live racist?

Stats lie.

37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population -- so the other 63% of unarmed people killed by police in 2015 were NOT Black.
 
Yes, cops sometimes lie. But a lot of time they are telling the truth. I guess it's just a pure coincidence that this guy, targeted by police for nothing more than sitting there reading a book, just happens to be a career criminal with various felony weapons convictions who has shot someone, beats up on 8 year olds and threatens to kill his wife. What are the odds? Those cops sure did get lucky.

Use your brain. Use logic. Not every police shooting is some unjustified racially motivated conspiracy. Sometimes people get shot because they are bad people who do bad and incredibly stupid things.
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The animal world chips in on POOP's charge of RACIST, BIGOT, RACIST:

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But, but, but ... President Obama must be fired up about these RACIST allegations, right?

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Not looking good on the "RACIST, BIGOT!!" allegation front there, POOP.
 
don't worry, POP... elfie will be along soon

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why is it that if you disagree on this issue and think that maybe the cops are not all ******* murderers you are automatically a racist?
 
Yes, cops sometimes lie. But a lot of time they are telling the truth. I guess it's just a pure coincidence that this guy, targeted by police for nothing more than sitting there reading a book, just happens to be a career criminal with various felony weapons convictions who has shot someone, beats up on 8 year olds and threatens to kill his wife. What are the odds? Those cops sure did get lucky.

Use your brain. Use logic. Not every police shooting is some unjustified racially motivated conspiracy. Sometimes people get shot because they are bad people who do bad and incredibly stupid things.

Another straw man argument. I never asserted every shooting a cop does is dirty and racially charged. But far too many shootings of blacks are criminal by cops. How can a rational, thinking person conclude otherwise?

Go ahead and explain away these facts while you're at it.

http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/

Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week. (See which police departments were responsible for these deaths)

Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting

37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population

Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015

Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Eric Harris) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. Deputy Bates, who killed Eric Harris, will be sentenced May 31.
 
why is it that if you disagree on this issue and think that maybe the cops are not all ******* murderers you are automatically a racist?

Goddammit, Coolie, you are such a racist. You must own about 30 white sheets - a couple for the bed and the rest for your klan meetings and cross-burnings.
 
why is it that if you disagree on this issue and think that maybe the cops are not all ******* murderers you are automatically a racist?

Straw man argument once again. I never asserted all cops are murderers, You just claimed I did. Go ahead and tell me these facts don't paint a different picture than your fantasy world.

Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week. (See which police departments were responsible for these deaths)

Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting

37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population

Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015

Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Eric Harris) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. Deputy Bates, who killed Eric Harris, will be sentenced May 31.
 
Goddammit, Coolie, you are such a racist. You must own about 30 white sheets - a couple for the bed and the rest for your klan meetings and cross-burnings.

Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week. (See which police departments were responsible for these deaths)

Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting

37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population

Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015

Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Eric Harris) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. Deputy Bates, who killed Eric Harris, will be sentenced May 31.

You were saying?
 
Another straw man argument. I never asserted every shooting a cop does is dirty and racially charged. But far too many shootings of blacks are criminal by cops. How can a rational, thinking person conclude otherwise?

Go ahead and explain away these facts while you're at it.

http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/

Unarmed does mean not violent or not dangerous. Maybe only 10 of them were charged and 2 convicted because the other ones were justified...because the perp was assaulting or threatening an officer or somebody else...did that ever occur to you? Michael Brown, 6'5" 300 pounds and high on drugs punched a cop in the face, tried to take his gun, and then charged at him. What is the cop supposed to do in that instance? Let the guy tackle him, take his gun and shoot him?

Meanwhile millions of people black and white are stopped, ticketed, searched and arrested every year without any use of force at all. Why is that, if there is this epidemic of racism and cops being trigger happy? 102 is tragic and a sad number but it is a tiny, tiny percentage of overall police activity.

Again, logic.
 
Straw man argument once again. I never asserted all cops are murderers, You just claimed I did. Go ahead and tell me these facts don't paint a different picture than your fantasy world.

No I never claimed you said ALL cops were murderers...I didn't mention you AT ALL.

but you have resorted to calling various folks racist and all they do is disagree with you about these killings. so why must those who don't swallow your "facts" automatically be racist?
 
You were saying?

Another beat-down set to occur. You post a site proclaiming:

Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting.

First, the speculation about "underreporting" is just that - speculation. Surmise. Could-be mixed in with a little might-have.

I can do this too. "The incidence of police killing Hispanics is likely underreported due to the large number of illegals involved, so the percentage of unarmed blacks being killed by police as noted is far too high when compared to reality." See?

Additionally, your reference site claims:

37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population

Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015.

The first point is unfortunately irrelevant. Police shootings of the unarmed occur vastly more frequently where the suspect flees, or has a warrant out for his arrest, or is on parole and has no desire to go back to prison, or points a toy gun at a cop. Therefore, taking the population as a whole means nothing. Why not post the black population with a warrant, on parole, or who fled the police, or who had reason to resist arrest as compared to other races? That would at least have some relevance to the analysis.

Also, the reference source mixes two different data sets - the number of unarmed people who are shot and the population as a whole - to arrive at the figure, "Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015." That statement is flat-out false, according to the reference source itself, which notes that 37% of those shot and were unarmed were black. That means 63% were non-black. For blacks to be killed at "5x the rate of unarmed whites," then just 7.4% (0.2 x 37%) of those shot who were unarmed would be white. But in fact, more than 50% of those shot and who were unarmed were white. Your own reference shows that the narrative is not accurate.

Finally, it bears investigation to see what this site is talking about relative to "police killing unarmed black people." You want to know some examples on this very site you reference? How about these:

Miguel Espinal, 36, was shot and killed by NYPD officers in an incident that started with a traffic stop in the Bronx. Espinal fled the stop, prompting a police chase that ended in a wrong-way crash. After the crash, Espinal left the vehicle and ran to the surrounding Tibbetts Brook Park, where police killed him. Espinal's family said he ran from officers because he doesn't have a license. “Whether he ran from the cops or not, it doesn’t justify that he got shot. It doesn’t justify that,” Justin Juble, Espinal’s brother, said.

A Hammond police officer killed Tiara, who was the mother of three of his children. The motive is suspected to be financial. Officer Kevin Campbell was charged with murder for killing Tiara.

Chandra, 48, was killed by Kansas City, MO police, who crashed their patrol car into the driver's side of her Pontiac Grand Am.

Oakland police were towing vehicles near 90th Ave. and Bancroft Ave. when they claim Richard, 39, approached them and "pointed a firearm in their direction." They shot Richard multiple times. Police later revealed Richard's "firearm" was actually a toy gun.

An officer crashed into Stephen's SUV while rushing to respond to a domestic call, killing him. He was 45 years old.

Officer Gary Paul Evelyn struck Seide, 33, with a marked Seminole police pick-up truck. Seide was hit with the truck's left front, according to the Florida Highway Patrol.

Police say Lamontez, 39, was "causing a disturbance" downtown and ran when police approached him. Police shot Lamontez multiple times, claiming he aimed a gun at them. Police later revealed that the gun was a toy.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection officer shot and killed her boyfriend Rayshaun, 30, in their Chula Vista apartment, telling police that she was defending herself and he had hit her.

An off-duty police officer shot and killed Brown, 18, claiming he got into the officer's car at a gas station and began driving it while the officer was waiting for it to be washed. A witness told reporters that the officer identified himself as a police officer and ordered Brown to get out of the car. The officer claims Brown "made a sudden movement", before the officer shot him.

Christopher, 22, was struck and killed by a police cruiser while crossing the street. The cruiser was speeding on its way to a reported car crash.

I stopped reading these descriptions about 1/5th of the way down, POOP. Your own goddam reference site - the one you keep posting - includes "killing unarmed blacks" in domestic violence cases, car accidents, a stolen police vehicle, and where the guy pointed a toy gun at the cop.

Here's an idea, POOP. When you cite some reference material, READ THE STUFF YOU ARE CITING.
 
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