College Football Week 15 Champ Week

[Sarge]

I will say this. Oregon is not winning a national championship. That defense can be had. A team that doesn’t shoot themselves in the foot repeatedly throughout the game is going to crush Oregon. Penn State has no business being in this game. Yet here they are.

 

[jitter77]

well SMU tied it up

 

[SteelerFan448]

Why'd Penn State go away from what was so successful all night? Not a great pass from Aller.

 

[Pittsburgh Charlie]

A three loss team gets a bye

 

[SteelerFan448]

Clemson!!! Huge kick for the win and they steal a playoff spot!

 

[Sarge]

Why'd Penn State go away from what was so successful all night? Not a great pass from Aller.

Penn State played stupid all night. They lost the game as much as Oregon won it. Surprised it was that close. Penn State gave that game away in the first half.

 

[Steelr4evr]

518 yards of offense for Penn State with 292 yards rushing alone. That's big boy ball.

No way Oregon is fixing that ****** defense enough this year to win it all.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Penn State played stupid all night. They lost the game as much as Oregon won it. Surprised it was that close. Penn State gave that game away in the first half.

You don't play that dumb putting up 37 points against the #1 team in the country.

 

[Steelmann]

I will say this. Oregon is not winning a national championship. That defense can be had. A team that doesn’t shoot themselves in the foot repeatedly throughout the game is going to crush Oregon. Penn State has no business being in this game. Yet here they are.

And just who is going to stop their offense? It’s just another day in the office for them to score over 30. They totally deserved this game. “ Crush Oregon”. Yep. So many have crushed Oregon in the last couple years. The announcers on TV were so pro Pen State it was nauseating. Pen States offense had a good game,the turnovers were going to be huge in this type of game. Nobody ever talks about Oregon’s QB. The guy is a stud.

 

[Sarge]

You don't play that dumb putting up 37 points against the #1 team in the country.

The #1 team in the country has a soft defense. They aren’t getting a natty.

 

[Sarge]

And just who is going to stop their offense? It’s just another day in the office for them to score over 30. They totally deserved this game. “ Crush Oregon”. Yep. So many have crushed Oregon in the last couple years. The announcers on TV were so pro Pen State it was nauseating. Pen States offense had a good game,the turnovers were going to be huge in this type of game. Nobody ever talks about Oregon’s QB. The guy is a stud.

Hard to say until we see the seeding. I just don’t think their defense is good enough. Their offense is good. I’ll give you that. But that defense can be had. A lot. Better hope they don’t run into a defense. If they do, they might be in trouble.

 

[jitter77]

Penn State had one of the top D's and was shredded

 

[SteelerFan448]

I have no idea what the committee will do. Immediate reaction, this is what I'd do.

1. Oregon - Only undefeated team
2. Georgia - Benefit of the doubt for being Georgia + SEC bias
3. Boise St. - They were 4 behind SMU and SMU lost. They have to be 3.
4. Arizona St. - Impressive win over

5. Texas - Really hasn't beat anyone, but a close loss to Georgia.
vs.
12. Indiana - Just got completely stomped by OSU. Worst team in the field.


6. Notre Dame - No movement as they didn't play.
vs.
11. SMU - Gave Clemson everything they had. Bad first half was too much to overcome.


7. Ohio State - Only lost to Oregon by 1, beat Penn State.
vs.
10. Clemson - I just can't put a conference champion below Indiana.

8. Penn State - Lost to Oregon by 8, lost to Ohio State.
vs.
9. Tennessee - Good team that didn't get a chance to play this weekend.

 

[jitter77]

I think the debate will be SMU or Alabama. Can you punish a team for losing a conference champ game and reward the one who didnt play? I think that would set a bad example moving forward, but we will see what they do

 

[Sarge]

I think the debate will be SMU or Alabama. Can you punish a team for losing a conference champ game and reward the one who didnt play? I think that would set a bad example moving forward, but we will see what they do

It’s money. Alabama will get in on brand, and that brand brings in money.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Penn State should have won that game. Slow start as usual, spotting Oregon points. Tons of missed tackles and blown coverages giving Oregon easy yards all night. Penn State's DC got his lunch stolen. I never saw so many plays with guys pointing and moving and yelling back and forth. They looked confused most of the night.

The offense was mostly good. The OL was great. Once again, Penn State's WRs came up small. Hardly ever open and they drop balls. Allar threw a deep ball to give Wallace a chance to make a play. He had position and couldn't make a play on the ball. That would have been a catch for a good WR. Later on a key play he was open, a rarity, and had to bobble the ball 3 times before he caught it and barely got the 1st down.

I'll be surprised if Allar is not a 1st round pick. You can see the physical tools. That 4th down TD pass was incredible, a guy hanging off of him and he throws a strike between 2 DBs. He's show his mobility as well with some key runs.

I hate analytics. Penn State went for 2 because of it. We always hear that the numbers say this or that. I'd like to see a study of how the analytics decision pan out in real life. I'd bet for every time it ends up helping a team win, there are 2 or 3 times it blew up.

Another big game loss for Franklin but you have to credit him with an aggressive gameplan. They lost but they were in it and had a shot. They weren't just playing for a close loss like they have been for years against Mich and OSU.

Big 10 refs are a joke. Abdul Carter gets held like TJ Watt. Oregon had a TD with a lineman illegally downfield by more than 5 yards. They had a key 4th down conversion where their TE blatantly shoved the DB to get open. They took away a clear 9 yard catch for Penn State that was initially ruled a catch, PSU went hurry up and the refs had marked the ball as if it was no catch. Then the game essentially ends with Allar throwing deep and the DB grabbed the WR and pulled him down.

Missed tackles, blown coverages, dropped balls, penalties. Then there's a near pick 6 that gave Oregon 7 plus a fialed 2 point conversion and a missed FG that cost Penn State 4 points, there's 11 points right there. You aren't going to beat a good team making so many unforced mistakes.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

The #1 team in the country has a soft defense. They aren’t getting a natty.

Their offense is top notch,, fast and that qb is accurate af.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

SMU should be in. Penn State should be the 5 seed. The committee claimed that teams should be rewarded and not penalized for playing in Championship games. If that's true, then SMU has to be in over Bama. They lost the Championship on a last second FG.

I supposed you can justify Texas as the 5 seed but if they put Notre Dame over Penn State for the 6 seed, it's total crap.

Arizona State should get the 4 seed and a bye over BYU. They are better.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

The #1 team in the country has a soft defense. They aren’t getting a natty.

I agree. They were supposed to have this big tough DL and Penn State;s OL pushed them around. I don't think they'll win it all. Depends on matchups though.

 

[Steelmann]

Hard to say until we see the seeding. I just don’t think their defense is good enough. Their offense is good. I’ll give you that. But that defense can be had. A lot. Better hope they don’t run into a defense. If they do, they might be in trouble.

I have no idea what you mean by “ Better hope they don’t run into a defense”

Ohio State ranked #1 defense. They put up 32
Penn State was ranked #4. They put up 45.
Illinois ranked #6. They put up 38.
Michigan always a tough D….they put up 38.
UCLA. They put up 34.
Not bad for this season. Obviously being undefeated they won all those. The only team in 2 years they never put 30+ on was Boise State.


By the way the Ducks were ranked #7 in the nation on defense.
I’m not saying no one can score on them. Pen States offense had had a good game offensively and have put up good numbers all season.
I think they’ve earned some respect here. They deserve their #1 billing.

 

[madinsomniac]

The #1 team in the country has a soft defense. They aren’t getting a natty.

Meh, they had 3 teams score more than 30 on them and those are all going to be in the playoffs... they scored more than 30 in all but two games..

 

[Sarge]

I'll be surprised if Allar is not a 1st round pick. You can see the physical tools. That 4th down TD pass was incredible, a guy hanging off of him and he throws a strike between 2 DBs. He's show his mobility as well with some key runs.

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While I sort of agree, his two interceptions were both horrible throws, especially the near pick 6. If he actually puts it on Dinkins at worst it’s incomplete. Ball was two feet behind him. The DB seemed surprised it hit him in the chest. And Allar does that kind of stuff regularly, off target throws on routine plays.

 

[Sarge]

I have no idea what you mean by “ Better hope they don’t run into a defense”

Ohio State ranked #1 defense. They put up 32
Penn State was ranked #4. They put up 45.
Illinois ranked #6. They put up 38.
Michigan always a tough D….they put up 38.
UCLA. They put up 34.
Not bad for this season. Obviously being undefeated they won all those. The only team in 2 years they never put 30+ on was Boise State.


By the way the Ducks were ranked #7 in the nation on defense.
I’m not saying no one can score on them. Pen States offense had had a good game offensively and have put up good numbers all season.
I think they’ve earned some respect here. They deserve their #1 billing.

You know what, you’re absolutely right. I was half drunk and pissed. Still pissed, but seeing more clearly than last night. Still, I feel like Penn State gave this game away to a degree. The Ducks defense isn’t very good and why you try a deep pass to a well covered guy on 2nd and 1 when you’ve rushed for nearly 300 yards is beyond me. Monumentally stupid.

The near pick 6 was one of the worst throws I’ve seen in football at any level this year. And as stated above, Tom Allen got taken to school although he called a better 2nd half.

The game was there for the taking, and in my opinion, penalties and mistakes cost them more than anything Oregon did or didn’t do.

 

[SteelerFan448]

I think the debate will be SMU or Alabama. Can you punish a team for losing a conference champ game and reward the one who didnt play? I think that would set a bad example moving forward, but we will see what they do

It's an invitational tournament that they want to be SEC vs. Big 10, but have to include the others to generate enough interest. They can do whatever they want.

Penn State should have won that game.

I'll be surprised if Allar is not a 1st round pick.

I don't know how you watched that game and though Penn State should've won. If anything, Oregon should've ran away with it but their charmin soft defense kept Penn State in it. Aller is 6'5" and 240 lbs with a decent arm. He'll absolutely be a first.

SMU should be in. Penn State should be the 5 seed. The committee claimed that teams should be rewarded and not penalized for playing in Championship games. If that's true, then SMU has to be in over Bama. They lost the Championship on a last second FG.

I supposed you can justify Texas as the 5 seed but if they put Notre Dame over Penn State for the 6 seed, it's total crap.

Arizona State should get the 4 seed and a bye over BYU. They are better.

Agree on SMU. No way Penn State will jump Texas with a loss. I can see both being over Notre Dame at 5 and 6, but Penn State should fall behind Ohio State with the head-to-head loss and loss to Oregon...but they want these championship games to stick around so they won't do that.

Is BYU even in contention for a bye? I thought they were completely out of it. Boise should be the 3 based on last week's rankings and Arizona State was ahead of Clemson so will get the 4.

 

[Stainless]

I may have been more than half drunk by the end of the night. I remember the games being entertaining. Im looking forward to the playoff. Are they doing a selection show like they do for basketball?