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Covid Vaccine

ANTHONY FAUCI HOLDS PATENTS ON HIV COMPONENT USED TO CREATE COVID-19​

June 29, 2021 by Sage Edwards


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Dr. Anthony Fauci’s name appears on four U.S patents for a key glycoprotein that seems to have been inserted into the SARS virus to create COVID-19.
Justia.com, a legal portal, lists patents by inventor Anthony Fauci involving a glycoprotein in HIV-1.
This same glycoprotein, identified as Glycoprotein 120, or simply as GP120, has also been found to be a key component of the current COVID-19, a disease that appears to combine a HIV-1 attack on the human immune system, with SARS CoV-1, the pathogen from the original SARS
Medical scientists in India reported four intersections in the spike glycoprotein that are unique to COVID-19 and not present in other coronaviruses. The article was taken down after it was suggested that Covid-19 was created in a lab by inserting the glycoprotein from HIV-1 into a sars virus.

Related: How To Detoxify and Heal From Vaccinations – For Adults and Children

In recent weeks media platforms have stopped banning content that suggests COVID-19 was made in a lab after president Biden called a search into the origins of the virus.
 
SOURCE? Who is saying the vaccine is more dangerous and causes more deaths than Covid? Wouldn’t that be a widely reported controversy? You and Tim are creating your own reality.

74.2Million people in the US who are 18-under

349 of them have died due to COVID (0.000004).

100% of those were kids with comorbidities, according to a report a read a month ago.

COVID doesn't kill our young.

Even a handful of young people dying from the vax makes the vax more deadly for our kids. Vaccinating our kids is STUPID, RECKLESS policy. That's why Israel, the UK and a half dozen other countries are not mandating vaccination of those 18 and under.
 
Where do they say the vaccine is more dangerous and kills more young people than Covid? And they talking about kids <12, that’s not the same demographic.

Why do you disagree with science?
 
"So on the one hand, you will say that of all the suspect deaths listed/reported, there is no causal link and we don't know.

But then you state as fact the deaths caused by the vaccines is minute. That's a bit of a flip flop."

What's the flip flop? I've said from the beginning, VAERS reports are not deaths caused by the vaccines, they are not suspected deaths caused by the vaccines. They are deaths that happened sometime after people got a vaccine and are an investigational tool used to see if there could be patterns or causal links.

CONFIRMED deaths caused by vaccines are minute is what I said. And that is true. And not at all different from saying it's possible more deaths have been caused by them. So far unconfirmed.

Yeah, I'm not buying what you're selling here. VAERS reports are suspect adverse events. You say they are not. It's a reporting system. It's not a results system.

In the meantime, i downloaded the VAERS data again yesterday.

One entry: "I" took the vaccine. 2 days later "I" suffered an abnormally large period, almost like hemorrhaging. "I" am reporting this not my Dr. I did not see follow up care..." VAERS accepts "reports" of adverse events from Drs, individuals...anyone. It is not a results system. It's an incident reporting system.

None of us can draw conclusions from the VAERS data, it's merely a list of incidents. Your faith in the CDC seems incredible at this point. Can you point us to the Drs and researchers that analyze these VAERS incidents? And where they post the results of their investigations of these events?
 
Why people fear the vaccines more than they fear getting covid is just mind boggling to me. It's not based on anything factual.

It's pretty simple, and you're so deep in your camp (we are all deep in our camps) you just don't acknowledge what we have shared.

mRNA isn't normal for humankind. It's new. People fear new. You believe it's safe. That is YOUR belief. Others are entitled to want to wait and see.
These vaccines weren't FDA approved.
These vaccines weren't properly tested. You will say they were, that's factually not true. They were tested in other ways, not in the traditional way.

The three points above are indeed facts.

Covid isn't that dangerous. It's not the bubonic plague. It's not ebola. What's more disturbing is people still running around talking about how deadly it is.
 
Are any of these folks willing to go public with this knowledge? Have they conducted or published any studies that demonstrate why they're not on board with these vaccines? Or are we just supposed to take "Some guys I work with think this" as some kind of scientific data.

Has your executive medical friend you confide in and talk about often here gone public with his knowledge? Has he conducted or published any studies that demonstrate why he's on board with these vaccines?

Or are we just supposed to take your guy's anecdotal commentary as some kind of scientific data?

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You've done exactly what you accuse Steelworth of doing.

EDIT: (sorry I just got through you two arguing until 3 am and saw this point was beaten till the horse was dead 4 times)
 
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Wow, are you suggesting they won't come forward about legitimate safety and efficacy concerns because they are worried about losing their federal funding? Huh. I would think saving lives and preventing vaccine harm would come first but what do I know. I don't work in the industry.

I'm not sure why this surprises you. I don't know Donk's lab/pHD friends here. You seem surprised doctors may be afraid or reluctant to come forward with their safety and efficacy concerns regarding Covid, the vaccines, etc.

Have you been asleep over the past year and missed how many doctors/researchers attempted to come forward with their concerns and were slandered, threatened, censored, and removed from YouTube, Twitter, Facebook?
 
i think the Carnegie Mellon study is extremely telling… its a u curve on vaccine hesitancy…. The least educated and most educated are the most hesitant… the middle ground is almost all pro vaccine

but the group that was by far the least likely to support the vaccines in their current state are those with PHDs
So PHDs, NOT MDs.

My friend is a health administration professor at a large university. He is one of two MDs on the faculty. He and the other MD like to chide the other professors by saying that they are the only real doctors among the faculty.
 
I think the vaccines are a good thing. The thing I don't understand is why natural immunity is being almost completely dismissed. There is a study showing that immunity to MERS, first reported in 2012, is at least greater than 6 years.

Conclusions​

At 6 years postinfection, we detected antibody responses in 100% of MERS survivors who had severe or moderate disease and in 50% of survivors who had mild disease, demonstrating durability of the MERS-CoV–specific antibody response. Because we did not measure MERS-CoV–specific T lymphocyte responses, the number of MERS survivors who had detectable immune responses was probably underestimated.
Immune response to SARS-CoV1 is being seen at 17 years post infection.

Luckily, antibody response is only one aspect of the total immune reaction of the body. SARS-CoV-1 reactive T cells, for example, were found in SARS patients 17 years after infection

The same study further finds that infection with CoV1 provides at least some immunity to SARS-CoV2.


And yet people are expected to believe that the human immune system, as awesome as it is, just suddenly ***** the bed against SARS-CoV-2 (Covid 19). I don't buy it. I am not against vaccines, because any type of immunity should help. But completely discounting natural immunity is probably the most puzzling part of this entire pandemic. I also think it is a large part of why people simply do not trust the government on this.
 
You really can't ******* read can you? JFC it is like talking to brick wall except the brick wall has better reading comprehension. You ignore all sources posted you don't like. How many deaths has Covid caused in those under 18 in the US? How many VAERS reports have there been of deaths? One more time if only a fraction of them are actually from the Vaccine it would put it close to or worse than Covid FOR THOSE UNDER 18. AND ONE MORE TIME I take those reports with a grain of salt. Regardless Covid is not any significant risk for children particularly when compared to other dangers children face.
The Vaers data I’ve seen is for ALL ages. Making your own assumptions and inferences is not providing facts or sources of QUALIFIED opinion. You and Tim are delusional.
 
74.2Million people in the US who are 18-under

349 of them have died due to COVID (0.000004).

100% of those were kids with comorbidities, according to a report a read a month ago.

COVID doesn't kill our young.

Even a handful of young people dying from the vax makes the vax more deadly for our kids. Vaccinating our kids is STUPID, RECKLESS policy. That's why Israel, the UK and a half dozen other countries are not mandating vaccination of those 18 and under.
Please define “handful”, compare to 349 and explain logic.

Again, avoiding possible but unlikely death isn’t the only reason for getting vaccinated. I’ve been getting the flu vaccine for years, never once was it because I was concerned that the flu might kill me.
 
Has your executive medical friend you confide in and talk about often here gone public with his knowledge? Has he conducted or published any studies that demonstrate why he's on board with these vaccines?

Or are we just supposed to take your guy's anecdotal commentary as some kind of scientific data?

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You've done exactly what you accuse Steelworth of doing.

EDIT: (sorry I just got through you two arguing until 3 am and saw this point was beaten till the horse was dead 4 times)

I already said it's not scientific data. I mentioned him in the context of why I trust that pharmaceutical companies aren't lying to us.

As I recall it was one of several different parts to a long answer to the question of why I am so pro-vaccine.

Steelworth himself said that one of them had written about covid and the vaccines. I am always interested in reading educated opinions about them. Which is why I asked the question if they had published anything or conducted any studies. When someone tells me that elite scientists have real, factual reservations about the vaccines and aren't coming forward and letting the public know about them, that gives me pause.

No, my friend hasn't personally conducted or published any studies on these vaccines. He just understands the process of how vaccines and other drugs are developed and brought to market, so was able to explain to me how this was able to happen so quickly yet still safely. If he had concerns about their safety and efficacy I assume he'd let me know, and also wouldn't have encouraged his own wife and children to take them. I never suggested that his was the ultimate scientific word on them, it was one factor in my thought process.
 
Yeah, I'm not buying what you're selling here. VAERS reports are suspect adverse events. You say they are not. It's a reporting system. It's not a results system.

In the meantime, i downloaded the VAERS data again yesterday.

One entry: "I" took the vaccine. 2 days later "I" suffered an abnormally large period, almost like hemorrhaging. "I" am reporting this not my Dr. I did not see follow up care..." VAERS accepts "reports" of adverse events from Drs, individuals...anyone. It is not a results system. It's an incident reporting system.

None of us can draw conclusions from the VAERS data, it's merely a list of incidents. Your faith in the CDC seems incredible at this point. Can you point us to the Drs and researchers that analyze these VAERS incidents? And where they post the results of their investigations of these events?

Can you explain why the CDC would tell us the truth about a few proven adverse effects but lie to us about others? Seriously, what would be their motive? As I said when Trump was president, who do you think actually makes these calls? Joe Biden himself? It's scientists. You either believe that CDC scientists are nefarious liars or you believe they're telling us the truth. Do they get things wrong sometimes? Of course. So has virtually every other scientific endeavor that has ever existed. Science is inexact. It evolves. Knowledge is gained from getting things wrong. Medical science is always benefit vs. risk. Always has been, always will be. You minimize the risks to the extent you're able through study and testing. When you learn new things you didn't know before, you change things. None of this is anything new.
 
Please define “handful”, compare to 349 and explain logic.

Again, avoiding possible but unlikely death isn’t the only reason for getting vaccinated. I’ve been getting the flu vaccine for years, never once was it because I was concerned that the flu might kill me.

Why are so many countries taking the position of refusing to vaccinate their young because their national policy is that the risk outweighs the benefit?
 
Steelworth himself said that one of them had written about covid and the vaccines. I am always interested in reading educated opinions about them. Which is why I asked the question if they had published anything or conducted any studies. When someone tells me that elite scientists have real, factual reservations about the vaccines and aren't coming forward and letting the public know about them, that gives me pause.

I too like to hear the educated, the doctors, the scientists share their opinions.

Were you at all persuaded by anything Dr. Dan said in Indiana? Did the fact the (yes it was a survey) the large majority of physicians and nurses have little to no faith in the CDC and their guidance give you pause (the link I shared with you yesterday)?
 
I too like to hear the educated, the doctors, the scientists share their opinions.

Were you at all persuaded by anything Dr. Dan said in Indiana? Did the fact the (yes it was a survey) the large majority of physicians and nurses have little to no faith in the CDC and their guidance give you pause (the link I shared with you yesterday)?

I haven't had a chance to look at the data yet. I broadly agree with a lot of what he said, as you know. I think it's becoming consensus that these vaccines aren't going to eradicate covid. That doesn't mean they are without value. And correct me if my memory serves me wrong here, I don't think he said anything about the vaccines being dangerous. But I might be misremembering. Was up late lol and had tennis and work early. I'm wiped.

As far as masks go I think I've said before I think they are of minimal value, they don't filter out virus particles but they can stop your spew from traveling through the air as far. They are minimally invasive so I don't have a big problem wearing them. Putting elementary kids in school in them all day is another matter altogether. Considering the risk to them is low I think the downsides of masks for them are probably worse than any small benefit they might have.
 
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Can you explain why the CDC would tell us the truth about a few proven adverse effects but lie to us about others? Seriously, what would be their motive?

Again, I don't believe they are lying to us. You are operating on the assumption that every event is somehow formally investigated by the CDC. Thus I asked, as I've not found it, what is that process? How long does it take? Where are the results posted?

I mean, there have been tens of thousands of adverse events reported. 6K deaths that are "suspect" - no causal link. Where do they report their findings - this death had a high likelihood of being vax related, this one did not, this one was due to the patient's heart condition, etc?

It seems to me we only find out when NBC reports some off the cuff story about one kid dying from it in Michigan, or we see some Politifact article that says "wrong, there aren't 6K deaths linked to the vaccines in VAERS."

My take is this is the government, and I just don't have faith that the process of investigating these and subsequently reporting on them is all that efficient. If you have insight/links/data on how they do this, I'm happy to look at it.

You either believe that CDC scientists are nefarious liars or you believe they're telling us the truth.

I'm sorry it is not binary as you've listed it. There is a position of in-between. I do not believe they are liars, nor do I believe we always tell the truth (see mask guidance alone, there were outright lies in there). The IRS does not capture every piece of tax fraud that goes on. They are tax experts. The FDA does not prevent every drug from going to market that harms people. Some sneak through. The FAA has been the culprit in some plane crashes. Does that mean the IRS, the FDA and the FAA are lying? No. People make mistakes as you have mentioned.

When government organizations make mistakes, their citizens lose faith. That's natural.

I can believe they are not liars and while aslo believing they do work to tell us the truth while also making mistakes. Which they have done a WHOLE lot of this past year and thus the reason the overwhelming portion of doctors and nurses have no faith in the CDC right now. They don't think they are liars. They just don't trust their scientific acumen and recommendations right now.

Nor do I. Which again doesn't mean I think they are outright lying to us. They are just ******* up...a lot.
 
I haven't had a chance to look at the data yet. I broadly agree with a lot of what he said, as you know. I think it's becoming consensus that these vaccines aren't going to eradicate covid. That doesn't mean they are without value. And correct me if my memory serves me wrong here, I don't think he said anything about the vaccines being dangerous. But I might be misremembering. Was up late lol and had tennis and work early. I'm wiped.

Here is what I captured from the video that he said about vaccines. He did not say they were dangerous. He talked instead about their effectiveness, or lack thereof. I found it odd, as I transcribed his words verbatim, that he said below - "No vaccine - even the ones I support and would give to my children - EVER stops infection." Which I infer to mean, as a doctor, he's not given them to his own children.

But no, he didn't say they are dangerous. He did say he believes they are potentially allowing the virus to become more dangerous.

  • These vaccines will not make Covid go away - it isn't possible
  • He asks: Why is a vaccine that is supposedly so effective, allowing a breakout in the middle of the summer, when respiratory viral syndromes, don't do that?
  • Answer: You need to understand antibody mediated viral enhancement - a condition when vaccines work wrong (as they did in every corona virus study done in animals after the SARS outbreak, and likewise done in respiratory sincial virus) - where a vaccine used in a venerable individual, done the wrong way, causes the immune system to fight the virus incorrectly allowing the virus to become worse than it would with native infection.
  • That is why you are seeing an outbreak right now
  • He references the 75% Covid positive outbreak among the vaccinated then states "There is no reason for treating any person vaccinated any differently than any person unvaccinated."
  • "No vaccine - even the ones I support and would give to my children - EVER stops infection."

And I agree with you...again and again...the vaccines have value.
 
I've always agreed by the way that keeping yourself in good health, Vitamin D, zinc, all that stuff is good. I was scarfing it down like candy when I had covid. Is it going to prevent serious illness from contagious viruses in everyone? Probably not.
 
Here is what I captured from the video that he said about vaccines. He did not say they were dangerous. He talked instead about their effectiveness, or lack thereof. I found it odd, as I transcribed his words verbatim, that he said below - "No vaccine - even the ones I support and would give to my children - EVER stops infection." Which I infer to mean, as a doctor, he's not given them to his own children.

But no, he didn't say they are dangerous. He did say he believes they are potentially allowing the virus to become more dangerous.

  • These vaccines will not make Covid go away - it isn't possible
  • He asks: Why is a vaccine that is supposedly so effective, allowing a breakout in the middle of the summer, when respiratory viral syndromes, don't do that?
  • Answer: You need to understand antibody mediated viral enhancement - a condition when vaccines work wrong (as they did in every corona virus study done in animals after the SARS outbreak, and likewise done in respiratory sincial virus) - where a vaccine used in a venerable individual, done the wrong way, causes the immune system to fight the virus incorrectly allowing the virus to become worse than it would with native infection.
  • That is why you are seeing an outbreak right now
  • He references the 75% Covid positive outbreak among the vaccinated then states "There is no reason for treating any person vaccinated any differently than any person unvaccinated."
  • "No vaccine - even the ones I support and would give to my children - EVER stops infection."

And I agree with you...again and again...the vaccines have value.

Well considering delta arrived pre-vaccine, and the fact that severe illness and death are much more common in the unvaccinated (according to all US data anyway) it doesn't really support his suggestion that vaccines might be making the virus worse. I think most virologists would tell you that unchecked rapid spread of a virus is likely to result in variants occurring. But as has been pointed out I'm not personally in the business.
 
I see those that support totalitarian political philosophies are still in here trying to justify tyranny with a virus that has a .03% chance of being fatal.
 
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