Covid Vaccine

[Troglodyte]

OK so we have a reliable source here. Public Health of England.

117 total deaths from Delta variant
44 were unvaccinated - 38%
23 had a single dose of the vax - 20%
50 had been FULLY vaccinated - 43%

Sooooooooo, 62% of their deaths were people that had one or two doses of the vaccine, and they died. Only 38% were unvaccinated.

But here...99% of our deaths are unvaccinated people.

And people wonder why we don't trust governments.

Oh, yeah. That screen shot looked totally legit.

 

[Troglodyte]

Please stop confusing the discussion with facts. It destroy's Tiblio's narrative

“How dare Tibs accuse DeSantis of being anti-vax!” said the anti-vaxxer.

 

[Steeltime]

Oh, yeah. That screen shot looked totally legit.

I accept your doubt as to the veracity of the information.

So I presume you accept my doubts as to your expertise or something in law called "foundation" in challenging any such number? Because you don't know, at all, one way or another.

So the scorecard now appears to be:

Questionable statistic, unsubstantiated but subject to research > Floggy's personal opinon

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

No, you ridiculously attributed the US failed Covid response to obesity. South Dakota got a lot fatties, or some such nonsense…

Floggy still don't read good.

Go back and dig up all of my posts. I said the major reason was obesity. Not the only. But it was the major reason.

You still blame deaths because Trump said ****.

Loon.

 

[Steeltime]

“How dare Tibs accuse DeSantis of being anti-vax!” said the anti-vaxxer.

You deserve to be suspended for patent, blatant, obvious and repeated misinformation.

TSF has never, at any time, told anyone not to get the vaccine. You saying otherwise is a provable lie.

Also, you misspelled "Tibilo." He's sensitive about that.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Oh, yeah. That screen shot looked totally legit.

THAT is your retort? Research son, research, before foot goes in mouth.

"On 10 July 2021, Sky News Australia broadcasted a news segment discussing deaths caused by the Delta variant in the U.K. In that segment, Sky News reported that a total of 257 people had died from the Delta variant. Of these, 92 hadn’t been vaccinated, 47 had received one dose of vaccine, and 118 had received two doses. It also indicated that 231 of the deceased were 50 years or older and 26 deaths occurred in those under 50 years old."

The screenshot is from that newsclip.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

“How dare Tibs accuse DeSantis of being anti-vax!” said the anti-vaxxer.

I'll own it. Proudly. But let's get the name correct Flogged. I'm anti-this-vaccine. Not anti-vaccines.

Back to your milk and cookies.

 

[Steelworth]

Oh, yeah. That screen shot looked totally legit.

I'm unsure about the legitimacy of these publications as I don't live in that part of the world, but there sure are a lot of them. 30 second search, try it sometime:

UK Health Data: Death Rate from COVID Variant is SIX TIMES Higher for Vaccinated than Unvaccinated

by Celeste McGovernHospitalizations are also higher among thousands of fully vaccinated individuals who test positive for the Delta COVID ‘variant of concern.’The death rate from the Delta COVID variant is six times higher among those who were fully vaccinated for two weeks or longer than among...

theduran.com

England Releases a Report Revealing 62% of Alleged COVID Deaths Are People Who’ve Been Vaccinated

The report also reveals the case fatality rate for the Delta variant is an 'astronomical' 0.1%

anti-empire.com

New study by Public Health England shows 90% of Delta infections for age >50 had received COVID jabs

With growing numbers of people getting infected with the new COVID-19 variant, called Delta, the so-called "vaccine" appears to offer no protection and could actually be putting recipients at greater risk of infection. This disturbing finding comes from a technical briefing published on June 25...

z3news.com

Most COVID deaths in England now are in the vaccinated – here's why that shouldn't alarm you

More vaccinated people are dying of COVID than unvaccinated people, according to a recent report from Public Health England (PHE). The report shows that 163 of the 257 people (63.4%) who died of the delta variant within 28 days of a positive COVID test between February 1 and June 21, had...

medicalxpress.com

New report stuns the world: The vast majority of those now dying with covid are people who were VACCINATED against it

By Ethan Huff (via Natural News) Public Health England just released a new report showing that at least 62 percent of all deaths associated with the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) are …

thetattyjournal.org

COVID Glitches: Most U.K. Delta Variant Deaths Were Vaccinated; 40% of New Israel COVID Cases Are Vaccinated – WITSNEWS

Public Health England released a COVID-19 variant technical briefing on June 25 (link goes straight to Table 2). It shows COVID-19 infections and deaths from

www.witsnews.com

Almost third of 42 Britons who have died from Delta variant had received second vaccine

ALMOST a third of 42 Britons who have died from the Delta variant had received their second dose of the Covid vaccine - this is the finding from a new report published by Public Health England (PHE).

www.express.co.uk

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I'm unsure about the legitimacy of these publications as I don't live in that part of the world, but there sure are a lot of them. 30 second search, try it sometime:

UK Health Data: Death Rate from COVID Variant is SIX TIMES Higher for Vaccinated than Unvaccinated

by Celeste McGovernHospitalizations are also higher among thousands of fully vaccinated individuals who test positive for the Delta COVID ‘variant of concern.’The death rate from the Delta COVID variant is six times higher among those who were fully vaccinated for two weeks or longer than among...

theduran.com

England Releases a Report Revealing 62% of Alleged COVID Deaths Are People Who’ve Been Vaccinated

The report also reveals the case fatality rate for the Delta variant is an 'astronomical' 0.1%

anti-empire.com

New study by Public Health England shows 90% of Delta infections for age >50 had received COVID jabs

With growing numbers of people getting infected with the new COVID-19 variant, called Delta, the so-called "vaccine" appears to offer no protection and could actually be putting recipients at greater risk of infection. This disturbing finding comes from a technical briefing published on June 25...

z3news.com

Most COVID deaths in England now are in the vaccinated – here's why that shouldn't alarm you

More vaccinated people are dying of COVID than unvaccinated people, according to a recent report from Public Health England (PHE). The report shows that 163 of the 257 people (63.4%) who died of the delta variant within 28 days of a positive COVID test between February 1 and June 21, had...

medicalxpress.com

New report stuns the world: The vast majority of those now dying with covid are people who were VACCINATED against it

By Ethan Huff (via Natural News) Public Health England just released a new report showing that at least 62 percent of all deaths associated with the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) are …

thetattyjournal.org

COVID Glitches: Most U.K. Delta Variant Deaths Were Vaccinated; 40% of New Israel COVID Cases Are Vaccinated – WITSNEWS

Public Health England released a COVID-19 variant technical briefing on June 25 (link goes straight to Table 2). It shows COVID-19 infections and deaths from

www.witsnews.com

Almost third of 42 Britons who have died from Delta variant had received second vaccine

ALMOST a third of 42 Britons who have died from the Delta variant had received their second dose of the Covid vaccine - this is the finding from a new report published by Public Health England (PHE).

www.express.co.uk

"ohhhhhh, those 47 links look legit!! JFC!"

/Floggy

 

[Steelworth]

LOL! OMG!

 

[Steeltime]

LOL! OMG!

ROFL, LMAO, WTFROFLMAO, BILO!!

The last one is "bedtime is long overdue" or "Bilo."

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

I’ll speak in general terms as I can’t get into specifics. Most of my residents that are positive again are fully vaccinated. That said it’s a small, small %. Can’t speak to if they were previously positive but in all account no because, well we know.

Staff. This is the big one for me. My staff were ravaged in my states, the hardest hit early on. Most didn’t take the stick, a good percent did. I think we are the highest in the nation but, not seeing much on their side of things. A hit here or there nothing big.

so is it natural is better? Is it the combo? All I know is I’m not seeing hundreds of cases a day but more like one a month.

 

[madinsomniac]

Breakthrough cases” is the hotword of day

As COVID cases surge in Louisiana, the inevitable is happening: more breakthrough infections

As COVID-19 cases surge in Louisiana among unvaccinated people, the inevitable is occurring: some vaccinated people are also getting sick.

www.nola.com

Notice how the officials are starting to turn away from case prevention and talking more about how it minimizes hospitalization s…

so its not about vaccines stopping the spread… its about it just not being so severe… and that’s something that should be a personal choice at this point…

again at this point in time no long term effects are really known of the process… if you are a potentially high danger demographic then it’s probably worth the risk… if not well thats what you have to devide…

acting like science has proven it safe is whistling past the graveyard at best… this is a speedy modification of a treatment that has never been totally vetted yet

hey im not taking the oral pill antivirus either that will be out in a couple months…. Same reasons…. There are several traditional vaccines in the final vetting process… that is using methods we already use just modified for covid… the long term problems there are probably not a concern at all

I really highly recommend everyone, especially liberals, revisit the liberal position on big pharma( which I wholeheartedly agree with)

Those companies have literally hundred of lost lawsuits for horrible abuses of products where they hid data showing horrible long term effects… but its fine because like with that merck case from 2011… they basically killed 50,000 people , caused hundreds of thousands of heart attacks, and were proven to have lied about the data to get it approved https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/merck-manipulated-science-about-drug-vioxx

now long after everyone was dead or hirt, they settled a nearly 5 billion dollar lawsuit and were fined another billion by the governments… but the net profit for that drug was over 12 billion dollars… they literally made bank mass murdering people

Every one of these vaccines companies has had billions in lawsuits for hiding or ignoring dangerous effects

there is no intelligent person who could look st their track record and not feel a bit skittish about these products

Ten years from now, sure sign me up for mnra stuff if there aren’t effects worthy of consideration… but right now, ill chance it

 

[Ron Burgundy]

hey im not taking the oral pill antivirus either that will be out in a couple months…. Same reasons…. There are several traditional vaccines in the final vetting process… that is using methods we already use just modified for covid… the long term problems there are probably not a concern at all

I got the shot because 1) I'm 60, 2) I have The Beetus, and 3) I'm around my parents a lot and they're both 85 and not in the best of health.
Damned if I'm getting a second shot after what happened to my sister though, they can F themselves.

 

[madinsomniac]

I got the shot because 1) I'm 60, 2) I have The Beetus, and 3) I'm around my parents a lot and they're both 85 and not in the best of health.
Damned if I'm getting a second shot after what happened to my sister though, they can F themselves.

Logical and reasonable decision making…. Weird how adults can do that

yeah i know plenty of people who have and plenty who haven’t gotten the shot… and almost all have great reasons for that

An extremely small small handful are nut jobs, but you don’t associate the nut job point of view with the entire section of people on a side of a debate… my gosh have you heard some of the extremists stuff? It’s ludicrous….

 

[Badcat]

Thinking that you’re more at risk from the vaccine than you are from Covid is casting reason aside. **** off yourself.

You were saying, *****? Again, caustic and evil. You don't care about others. It is all pretend, make believe, fraudulent and you serve no purpose but to tote the party line like the ******* lemming that you are. Let's read this again, Australian news source more legitimate than anything that you have posted said.

"On 10 July 2021, Sky News Australia broadcasted a news segment discussing deaths caused by the Delta variant in the U.K. In that segment, Sky News reported that a total of 257 people had died from the Delta variant. Of these, 92 hadn’t been vaccinated, 47 had received one dose of vaccine, and 118 had received two doses. It also indicated that 231 of the deceased were 50 years or older and 26 deaths occurred in those under 50 years old"

Let me put on my Troggy fraudulent empathy cape.....<clears throat>.... "Geeee...I sure hope your fully vaccinated *** don't contract the Covid-19 since you're more likely to die than I am. What a loss for this board if you were to die"

 

[Sarge]

Oh, yeah. That screen shot looked totally legit.

Here fuckstick. This is an article from business insider. Scroll about half way down. There is a chart that says the very same thing.

Vaccinated people are dying from the Delta variant, but in small numbers and almost all are over 50, UK data shows

The variant is more transmissible and is not completely stopped by vaccines. Still, data confirmed that inoculation offers significant protection.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Troglodyte]

Not true for those under 25 years of age and with no co-morbidity.

So far, a total of 788 people under age 25 in the United States have died of the lab-made Chinese flu.

COVID-19 Deaths by Age

According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, COVID-19 is deadliest among older populations. CDC data also show that Americans, regardless of age group, are far more likely to die of something other than COVID-19.

datavisualizations.heritage.org

Pfizer released data showing that its testing samples for those under age 18 - not including those ages 19-24 mind you - showed 10 severe reactions to the Chinese flu vaccine with zero severe reactions to the control group given a placebo. The 10 severe adverse events were from 2098 test subjects given the vaccine, or about 0.5%.

Reactions and Adverse Events of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine | CDC

Information about reactions and adverse events reported by recipients of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine

www.cdc.gov

Further, the vaccine is associated with myocarditis (a sometimes serious, even fatal swelling of the heart) among males ages 24 and under.

COVID-19 and balancing the risks: The vaccine or the virus

Myocarditis 101With recent reports of myocarditis after vaccination in young people after the mRNA vaccines, it is worthwhile to reexamine the risk/benefit ratio of these vaccines in this population

sciencebasedmedicine.org

The United States has a population of approximately 82 million ages 1-24. I have calculated that based on the fact that as of 2019, 22.3% of our population was 18 or younger, and another 2% or so is ages 19-24, for a total of 24.3%, multiplied by total population of 330 million = 82 million.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/AGE295219

If we run the data gathered so far - and for **** sake, spare me lectures about how the data are "not dispositive," not peer-reviewed, etc., I ******* know that and am simply trying to run a logical analysis - we find the potential for serious adverse effects to be 40,000 suffering serious adverse effects, up to and including death and another 2,733 (41,000,000 divided by 15,000) suffering serious myocarditis.

I am posting facts. Nothing I have noted above comes from a "conspiracy" web site. All the data I cite comes from the CDC, the census bureau, and Pfizer.

So stop posting misinformation about the Chinese flu vaccine and otherwise healthy young, particularly males.

Strange that you’re nonetheless vaccinated.

You cite the CDC and yet the CDC is recommending vaccination for all approved age groups.

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

Cardiovascular disease claims 2,300 lives a day in the U.S.

Should the Big Mac be banned? Discuss amongst yinz selves.

Cardboard causes cardiovascular disease?

 

[Troglodyte]

THAT is your retort? Research son, research, before foot goes in mouth.

"On 10 July 2021, Sky News Australia broadcasted a news segment discussing deaths caused by the Delta variant in the U.K. In that segment, Sky News reported that a total of 257 people had died from the Delta variant. Of these, 92 hadn’t been vaccinated, 47 had received one dose of vaccine, and 118 had received two doses. It also indicated that 231 of the deceased were 50 years or older and 26 deaths occurred in those under 50 years old."

The screenshot is from that newsclip.

So I researched “Sky News Covid” and here’s what I found

The ‘odds are with you’ if you get vaccinated

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard has highlighted the significant difference in COVID-19 death rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. “I want to remind people that if you’re over 60, if you get COVID, you have a one in 200 chance of dying,” Mr Hazzard said. “If you’re over 50, you...

www.skynews.com.au

But never mind that, let’s pretend (as that is what people like to do here) that the data was showing the vaccine was not offering protection against the Delta variant. Wouldn’t that be horrible news? Wouldn’t that put us back to square one in the fight against Covid? Why do you seem so vindicated by that?

 

[Badcat]

So I researched “Sky News Covid” and here’s what I found

The ‘odds are with you’ if you get vaccinated

NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard has highlighted the significant difference in COVID-19 death rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people. “I want to remind people that if you’re over 60, if you get COVID, you have a one in 200 chance of dying,” Mr Hazzard said. “If you’re over 50, you...

www.skynews.com.au

But never mind that, let’s pretend (as that is what people like to do here) that the data was showing the vaccine was not offering protection against the Delta variant. Wouldn’t that be horrible news? Wouldn’t that put us back to square one in the fight against Covid? Why do you seem so vindicated by that?

There is no fight against Covid. None. People get a vaccine that isn't protecting them as proven by the Australian news source that we've provided. We aren't protecting our elderly at all. In fact, if you live in a Democratic state like PA or NY, they want to infect the elderly and hope they die. Big Tech is silencing anyone the US Govt doesn't want heard. I mean, we can't have objective thoughts in America anymore. Any treatments that have been proven to work like ivermectin have been essentially banned. We know that Fauci lied to congress, his emails revealed that he lied to the world, and he's tied to funding the lab so we can't believe a ******* thing he says. We have no leadership, no direction, and no weapons to fight it except our natural antibodies and that isn't good enough for some.

We're not fighting Covid, we're surviving Covid, and we're watching as the country spirals into an abyss of Socialism which, you're quite giddy about. We'll see how giddy you are in a few years.

 

[Steeltime]

Strange that you’re nonetheless vaccinated.

Why would that be odd? Given my parameters, it's not "odd" in any way, shape or form that I would get vaccinated.

You cite the CDC and yet the CDC is recommending vaccination for all approved age groups.

Three problems with your bleating like a good little sheep. First, you don't refute a single fact I cited - not one. Those facts show that approximately 40,000 people under the age of 25 in the United States will have serious side effects from the vaccine, and 2,733 will develop myocarditis - an inflammation of the heart - from the vaccine. Meanwhile, without the vaccine a TOTAL of 788 people under age 25 have died from the lab-made Chinese flu. For the math-impaired and mentally-lacking (i.e., liberals), 42,733 > 788.

Second, I now have good reason to take all medical advice from these public agencies with a vast plateau of salt, Bonneville salt-flats size. These agencies have lied about every facet of the virus, from its origin, to the viable preventative measures, to the number of deaths caused, to the efficacy of the vaccine. Also, unfortunately the CDC is now a salesman for major drug companies. Sorry, that's a fact.

Third, you still cannot utter a negative comment about the Chinese and their role in the virus. Until you do, you are nothing more than a carnival barker, a shill for the murderers who started the pandemic.

 

[Tibs]

Say what?

Smart lady. Shocking there are Republicans out there with this much clarity. Really isn't any more complicated than this, folks.

Alabama’s GOP governor says ‘it’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks’ for covid-19 spike​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/23/alabama-kay-ivey-unvaccinated-covid/

When asked what more could be done to encourage Alabama residents to get their coronavirus vaccinations amid the latest spike in infections, Gov. Kay Ivey (R) had run out of ideas for how to persuade people in a state with the lowest vaccination rate in the nation.

“I don’t know. You tell me,” the governor told a reporter in Birmingham on Thursday. “Folks [are] supposed to have common sense.”

She did, however, have one message for her state: “It’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. It’s the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down.”

 

[Tibs]

 

[Superman]

Say what?

Smart lady. Shocking there are Republicans out there with this much clarity. Really isn't any more complicated than this, folks.

Alabama’s GOP governor says ‘it’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks’ for covid-19 spike​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/23/alabama-kay-ivey-unvaccinated-covid/

When asked what more could be done to encourage Alabama residents to get their coronavirus vaccinations amid the latest spike in infections, Gov. Kay Ivey (R) had run out of ideas for how to persuade people in a state with the lowest vaccination rate in the nation.

“I don’t know. You tell me,” the governor told a reporter in Birmingham on Thursday. “Folks [are] supposed to have common sense.”

She did, however, have one message for her state: “It’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. It’s the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down.”

why do you hate black people?