Covid Vaccine

[Steeltime]

My son eats Big Macs fairly frequently and is 6'2" 165 lbs. So no lol. Dietary choices aren't contagious to other people.

Government now dictates every facet of life - every one. From where we work, to how much we get paid, to medical care, food, travel, what kind of car we can drive, how we drive, where we live, what we can build, where we can build, how we can build, when we can build, when we can travel, how we can travel, what medications we can and cannot take, how much medication we can and cannot take, what we can eat and drink, how much we can eat and drink, where we can eat and drink, when we can eat and drink, what we can watch on television, what we can read on the internet, what we can say on the internet, what we can wear, how many people we can have over to our homes.

You think anything can stop them from implementing anything they want, no matter how stupid or unfounded or ill-reasoned?

 

[Steelworth]

You are too reasonable to be allowed on the internet

She wouldn't fare too well on that cesspool that is Twitter.

 

[Steelworth]

My son eats Big Macs fairly frequently and is 6'2" 165 lbs.

You remember that story of the guy who ate like 2 Big Macs a day for like 30 years and his BMI was normal, BP, everything?

Just thought of that when you mentioned your son. People are just built differently. Or maybe they secretly put something actually good into their Big Macs? Lol, yeah right.

 

[Superman]

Government now dictates every facet of life - every one. From where we work, to how much we get paid, to medical care, food, travel, what kind of car we can drive, how we drive, where we live, what we can build, where we can build, how we can build, when we can build, when we can travel, how we can travel, what medications we can and cannot take, how much medication we can and cannot take, what we can eat and drink, how much we can eat and drink, where we can eat and drink, when we can eat and drink, what we can watch on television, what we can read on the internet, what we can say on the internet, what we can wear, how many people we can have over to our homes.

You think anything can stop them from implementing anything they want, no matter how stupid or unfounded or ill-reasoned?

pretty sure Fibs and Flog are dehydrated from reading that

 

[Steelworth]

Government now dictates every facet of life - every one. From where we work, to how much we get paid, to medical care, food, travel, what kind of car we can drive, how we drive, where we live, what we can build, where we can build, how we can build, when we can build, when we can travel, how we can travel, what medications we can and cannot take, how much medication we can and cannot take, what we can eat and drink, how much we can eat and drink, where we can eat and drink, when we can eat and drink, what we can watch on television, what we can read on the internet, what we can say on the internet, what we can wear, how many people we can have over to our homes.

You think anything can stop them from implementing anything they want, no matter how stupid or unfounded or ill-reasoned?

And apparently you also get canceled for a joke, as a comedian, from nearly 25 years ago:




Seriously, who was the idiot who actually took the time search through this person's history and even do that?

 

[Troglodyte]

You think I'm going to risk my health with an experimental vaccine for you? **** off. You act like it's my civic duty to cast reason aside and just do what my Government asks me to do. You ask me to blindly trust scientists and big pharma who are getting wealthy from this pandemic. You ask me to do it for those who can't get vaccinated but you say nothing, NOTHING, about Democratic governors placing infected patients back into assisted living facilities causing thousands of deaths to our most vulnerable citizens, so spare me your fraudulent empathy. You and your ilk are caustic and evil.

Thinking that you’re more at risk from the vaccine than you are from Covid is casting reason aside. **** off yourself.

 

[Superman]

And apparently you also get canceled for a joke, as a comedian, from nearly 25 years ago:




Seriously, who was the idiot who actually took the time search through this person's history and even do that?

would you like to buy a vowel?

T_BS

 

[Steeltime]

Thinking that you’re more at risk from the vaccine than you are from Covid is casting reason aside. **** off yourself.

Not true for those under 25 years of age and with no co-morbidity.

So far, a total of 788 people under age 25 in the United States have died of the lab-made Chinese flu.

COVID-19 Deaths by Age

According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, COVID-19 is deadliest among older populations. CDC data also show that Americans, regardless of age group, are far more likely to die of something other than COVID-19.

datavisualizations.heritage.org

Pfizer released data showing that its testing samples for those under age 18 - not including those ages 19-24 mind you - showed 10 severe reactions to the Chinese flu vaccine with zero severe reactions to the control group given a placebo. The 10 severe adverse events were from 2098 test subjects given the vaccine, or about 0.5%.

Reactions and Adverse Events of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine | CDC

Information about reactions and adverse events reported by recipients of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine

www.cdc.gov

Further, the vaccine is associated with myocarditis (a sometimes serious, even fatal swelling of the heart) among males ages 24 and under.

• For males age 12-17 years, the risk after the second dose is 66.7 per one million, or 1 in 14,992.
• For males age 18-24 years, the risk after the second dose is 56.3 per one million, or 1 in 17,761.

COVID-19 and balancing the risks: The vaccine or the virus

Myocarditis 101With recent reports of myocarditis after vaccination in young people after the mRNA vaccines, it is worthwhile to reexamine the risk/benefit ratio of these vaccines in this population

sciencebasedmedicine.org

The United States has a population of approximately 82 million ages 1-24. I have calculated that based on the fact that as of 2019, 22.3% of our population was 18 or younger, and another 2% or so is ages 19-24, for a total of 24.3%, multiplied by total population of 330 million = 82 million.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/AGE295219

If we run the data gathered so far - and for **** sake, spare me lectures about how the data are "not dispositive," not peer-reviewed, etc., I ******* know that and am simply trying to run a logical analysis - we find the potential for serious adverse effects to be 40,000 suffering serious adverse effects, up to and including death and another 2,733 (41,000,000 divided by 15,000) suffering serious myocarditis.

I am posting facts. Nothing I have noted above comes from a "conspiracy" web site. All the data I cite comes from the CDC, the census bureau, and Pfizer.

So stop posting misinformation about the Chinese flu vaccine and otherwise healthy young, particularly males.

 

[Tibs]

Pray for Floridians. Damn.

Snapshot of Covid-19 cases from Worldometer at 4:26pm EST. Florida is over 12,000 cases and 86 deaths today.

 

[Steelworth]

Pray for Floridians. Damn.

With the amount of concern you show, you should volunteer to help on the front lines.

Oh wait, that's right, you don't even live in this country.

 

[Sarge]

This from England as reported on English TV.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

SMH. It’s a valid point as to why people should get vaccinated and why the pandemic should be mitigated. It’s an invalid point to use it as an excuse to not get vaccinated or not mitigate the virus.

Eh, you argued till your little pinhead turned blue and nearly exploded that obesity had nothing at all to do with our severe death rates, because you and Liberals are bent on blaming Trump for everything from COVID to your constipation.

Now, you're fine with using the argument. It's fine, and very typically Liberal of you. Thanks for agreeing, obesity has been our biggest contributor to our high death rate.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

What’s the point? “We are (also) hearing” there are likely many vaccinated asymptotic people with Covid that will never get tested and become a statistic. I’ll go with the not so limited observation of the experts.

I'm doing a Floggy. "I saw it on the news, so it MUST be true."

Unless you live in a bubble (wait.....)....you can't miss the increasing number of news reports of athletes, Texas Democrats, and others who are all vaccinated testing positive for COVID. Many of us personally know people who have had the jab and now have or have had COVID. As I said, I know 4 people in that category.

Makes one wonder about the effectiveness of the vaccines, is all.

Also makes one think that natural immunity appears to be proving a more solid defense than the vax. Thus, I'd like to see the data, not some white-washed "science" article pushed by PMSNBC as truth. Some real studies.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

My son eats Big Macs fairly frequently and is 6'2" 165 lbs. So no lol. Dietary choices aren't contagious to other people.

Eh, the point I was trying to make is that 10X the number of people are dying from CVD as from COVID, but those numbers aren't relayed by Lester Holt every evening.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I don't recall DeSantis ever being anti-vax. Just anti-mandate. He's always encouraged people to get vaccinated.

Please stop confusing the discussion with facts. It destroy's Tiblio's narrative

 

[madinsomniac]

LOL, you know when you get called a right win extremist some of the time, and a leftwing liberal others, you must be doing something right.

yes i am familiar with the notion lol

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Thinking that you’re more at risk from the vaccine than you are from Covid is casting reason aside. **** off yourself.

Time will tell. You're pretty confident making this claim now, 8 months into vaccinations.

You still miss the damned point, always will, because you are a shill for big government, over-reach, their control.

The virus has a 0.0019 chance of killing you.
The vaccine has untold, unmeasurable risks as of today.

People making a risk-based decision on two infinitesimally small chances is logical and right. My body. My choice.

So **** off with your "everybody on board" mindset. It's pretty damned chilling.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

With the amount of concern you show, you should volunteer to help on the front lines.

Oh wait, that's right, you don't even live in this country.

Notice how he never prayed for Blue states when they were getting flayed, only made excuses for putting COVID patients in nursing homes and praising their amazing decision making in trying to control the raging inferno?

 

[madinsomniac]

So here is the thing about that particular list that has irked me from the get go
The total deaths and new deaths are the top end of estimated numbers.., they aren’t all lab confirmed cases… they are anyone who died while showing symptoms or potentially having symptoms

now this is commonplace to do that with all morbidities… but usually the cases and new cases are also adjusted based on the Ro and eventually Re of the virus…

ie the swine flue had around500k lab confirmed cases worldwide, but the official estimates are 700 million to 1.7 billion cases worldwide…. That’s straight from cdc numbers….

we are not doing the second part of that and its biasing severity way too high… there has to be some rational reason for this… we have had dozens of pandemics and haven’t ever done this to my knowledge…. Its bad data compilation

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

This from England as reported on English TV.
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OK so we have a reliable source here. Public Health of England.

117 total deaths from Delta variant
44 were unvaccinated - 38%
23 had a single dose of the vax - 20%
50 had been FULLY vaccinated - 43%

Sooooooooo, 62% of their deaths were people that had one or two doses of the vaccine, and they died. Only 38% were unvaccinated.

But here...99% of our deaths are unvaccinated people.

And people wonder why we don't trust governments.

 

[Steelworth]

Notice how he never prayed for Blue states when they were getting flayed, only made excuses for putting COVID patients in nursing homes and praising their amazing decision making in trying to control the raging inferno?

I'm sure it happened (I mean, of course it did, he's a POS), but I only really notice where I can mock & troll the freeloading foreigner. Anything more is just a waste of energy IMO.

If it refuses to leave or actually contribute anything of consequence, this is just what we're left with. Adapt or ignore. There's no more trying to reason with it.

 

[madinsomniac]

OK so we have a reliable source here. Public Health of England.

117 total deaths from Delta variant
44 were unvaccinated - 38%
23 had a single dose of the vax - 20%
50 had been FULLY vaccinated - 43%

Sooooooooo, 62% of their deaths were people that had one or two doses of the vaccine, and they died. Only 38% were unvaccinated.

But here...99% of our deaths are unvaccinated people.

And people wonder why we don't trust governments.

Its why i am actually on board with the Biden administration plan to do widespread testing… hopefully they don’t limit it to schools and prisons…. The vaccinated dont think they can get it so they don’t take precautions and don’t get tested

just today I stopped at a speedway in galipolis ohio to get gas and the little old lady working there was hacking up a lung on everything but telling people that it was ok, she was vaccinated…. A vaccine is a bulletproof vest… it isn’t actually totally bulletproof…. Its a failsafe in case you get shot to maybe protect you…. You don’t get careless just because you are wearing one… and in this case she could be spreading it and not knowing….

 

[Troglodyte]

Government now dictates every facet of life - every one. From where we work, to how much we get paid, to medical care, food, travel, what kind of car we can drive, how we drive, where we live, what we can build, where we can build, how we can build, when we can build, when we can travel, how we can travel, what medications we can and cannot take, how much medication we can and cannot take, what we can eat and drink, how much we can eat and drink, where we can eat and drink, when we can eat and drink, what we can watch on television, what we can read on the internet, what we can say on the internet, what we can wear, how many people we can have over to our homes.

You think anything can stop them from implementing anything they want, no matter how stupid or unfounded or ill-reasoned?

Not long ago, legalized marijuana and gay marriage were non-existent. Seems government has backed off “every facet of life”.

 

[Troglodyte]

Eh, you argued till your little pinhead turned blue and nearly exploded that obesity had nothing at all to do with our severe death rates, because you and Liberals are bent on blaming Trump for everything from COVID to your constipation.

Now, you're fine with using the argument. It's fine, and very typically Liberal of you. Thanks for agreeing, obesity has been our biggest contributor to our high death rate.

No, you ridiculously attributed the US failed Covid response to obesity. South Dakota got a lot fatties, or some such nonsense…

 

[Steeltime]

Not long ago, legalized marijuana and gay marriage were non-existent. Seems government has backed off “every facet of life”.

[Imagine me using my "adult talking to a four-year old" voice]

Remember, Floggy, government regulates where you can buy the marijuana, where you can smoke it, when you can operate cars and machinery after smoking it, the medical proof needed for the drug, the contents of the drug, the provider for the drug, the grower who supplies the provider for the drug.

Also, Floggy, the government forces you to fill out forms, pay a fee, get a government-issued license and get married only by someone approved by the government for it to be a lawful, enforceable marriage.

Run along now. The teacher's aid is giving milk and cookies.