Covid Vaccine
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Lawsuits will start soon
Michigan straight up said natural immunity is sufficient… other states will follow … if and when long term effects happen the liability is going to be off the charts for these companies….
No dipshit, you made the specific claim that Allegheny Hospitals were in fact over loaded with rural COVID cases. Prove it. Show me any data that shows occupancy of those hospitals based on county of residence.
LMAO, so now you're saying there is no big deal in a 25 point drop in the effectiveness of the vaccines?????? Holy **** man LOL
That's like saying my car lost 25% of its horsepower, no big deal.
The drop in efficacy IS leading to a rise in cases/hospitalizations/deaths among the vaccinated. You just refuse to admit it because ideology.
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You're so busy chasing rainbows and unicorns you can't accept the simple fact the overwhelming majority of severe cases & death from Covid are among the unvaccinated. It's like you completely whiff on a two and a half hour movie, miss the entire plot & storyline, and instead ramble on relentlessly about the type of font they used in the credit roll at the end. Simply breathtaking, the level of utter stupidity.
A drop of 25 points in the efficacy of the vaccines, leading to increases in cases/hospitalizations/deaths among the vaccinated and you come with literally nothing of substance. Bubkus. Nothing. Then you insinuate data from the CDC itself is rainbows and unicorns...before tomorrow at some point...you will quote the CDC.
We need better vaccines. These are falling short of living up to the promises that were made to us. Like Floggy, you don't want to admit it because it is ideology to you.
If the vaccines were properly designed, they wouldn't need boosters. Especially within 6 damned months of being administered.
Novavax is going to submit for fourth quarter approval… this vaccine mandate simply is to force everyone into the current vaccines before that happens … gotta maximize that pfizer portfolio after all
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Where did I say “stop”? I specifically gave an example of ongoing research and scientists disagreeing about their current conclusions regarding the need for a third dose.
All 3 of them.
Meanwhile, the White House is preparing for boosters. Vax companies are rapidly making them. Countless nations are administering them. Science and research around the globe shows the efficacy of the vaccines have dropped substantially.
Ideology.
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The FDA officials in the article I posted yesterday made no mention of the “rest of the world” reasoning.
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And you applaud this? Wow! Glad to know you approve of discrimination like this that totally ignores all logic! Maybe you aren't the person I try to think you are behind the bluster. You are really moving toward the fascist side quickly with posts like this.
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And the cold, hard, brutally sad reality of Covid is all around. Out in the open for the world to see, for everyone, besides a few tormented souls unwilling, or unable to face and deal with reality.
No but other links you have posted saying there's no need for boosters have in fact said, which you didn't bother to read before posting, that the reason they opposed boosters was to make sure the rest of the world has a chance at round one before giving out round three to others.
Try reading what you post before posting what you do.
Only some lives matter to Tiblio. The king of selective outrage and double standards.
Black lives in Chicago? Couldn't give a rats ***, but George Floyd....
Victims of Covid matter to Tiblio, but not a single life ruined or lost due to Covid lockdowns/measures matters to him.
Every unvaccinated person in the USA is evil to Tiblio, except blacks, Hispanics, illegal immigrants, and Afghan refugees. They should be allowed to skip the jab.
Police lives don't matter one bit to Tiblio when shot by thugs like the pregnant officer in Chicago. But blue lives lost as an indirect consequence of Jan 6 are political gold.
AntiFa killed by a white kid from WI are a tragic loss to Tiblio, but a Proud Boy shot by AntiFa doesn't matter a damned bit.
Tiblio is outraged over Covid deaths that are needless, but can't be bothered to care about the tens of thousands lost in nursing homes in New York.
Dylan Roof's innocent victims are a tragic loss to Tiblio, but the victims in San Bernadino just really don't matter.
The girl tragically lost in Charlottesville is of grave concern to Tiblio, but the woman beheaded in OK by an Islamic coworker shall not be mentioned.
See how this works?
I should go on, but you get the point.
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For months your ideology was that the lack of FDA approval of the vaccines was good reason for vaccine hesitancy and resistance. Well…
FDA Says Covid-19 Vaccines Remain Effective Without Boosters
Food and Drug Administration scientists expressed skepticism that an apparent diminished protection is rendering the vaccines less effective.
www.wsj.com
Ah CBS, part of the Liberal establishment, still pushing narrative. Are we shocked? Stunned? At all? No.
Why are those hospitals over capacity? They theorize. Staffing? Not discussed. Downsizing of beds due to low staffing? Not mentioned. Lack of nurses? Not covered.
I'll wait.
Meanwhile, for the King of Misinformation:
There are 325 hospitals listed in Florida. 24 of them, per CBS, are "out of beds." - 7%. SEVEN PERCENT. Raging Inferno!!!!!!!
From the Department of Health and Human Services, with 224 hospitals reporting:
- 89.63% of ICU beds state wide are occupied
- 39.46% of ICU beds are being used for Covid patients
- Only 19.25% of in-patient beds are Covid patients
CBS: 24 hospitals reporting more patients than beds!!
The fear porn machine is still in effect.
For months your ideology was that the lack of FDA approval of the vaccines was good reason for vaccine hesitancy and resistance. Well…
FDA Says Covid-19 Vaccines Remain Effective Without Boosters
Food and Drug Administration scientists expressed skepticism that an apparent diminished protection is rendering the vaccines less effective.
Your President, your White House, the CEO of Pfizer, the CDC, medical researchers and scientists the world over, and countries like Israel and the UK disagree with you.
With the recent shambles the FDA has been in, I'll pass and listen to the preponderance of evidence.
Following data isn't ideology. You might want to look it up. Denying science is Floggy. You turn a blind eye to it all.
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The virtue signaling in that is nauseating.
Shouldn't we all be "anti-maskers" to a certain extent? Shouldn't not walking around with our faces covered be the default that we aspire to get back to? Wouldn't it be great news if we discovered that all of this mask wearing isn't really helping much and we could all stop wearing them? I swear some of you love these things-you think of them as disease-proof shields or security blankets and never want them to go away.
And I say that as someone who wears one with no problem when requested. But seriously, this "good person bad person" **** based on how closely someone hews to the latest updated changing list of precautions has got to stop. Anti-maskers aren't people who don't care about other people. They are people who either don't believe masks are effective or who also care about individual rights and liberty.
Do you care about government overreach, individual rights and liberty at all Tibs? Is caring about those things not also caring about people? Are people who question authority automatically bad people? It's scary how many people seem to view it that way.
More importantly do you think the smug superiority exuding from that message inspires people to wear masks? Or does it inspire them not to? Someone who really wanted to do the former wouldn't post that sign.
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She blinded me with science.
Healthcare is dying. Not because of the endless covid folks coming to our doors, we…have…no…staff. Period.
those that we did have were forced out. Some amazing 20 plus year vets. Gone. We pushed out our “heros” and those above all cared for their job/passion.
while it might suck to have to wait at your local restaurant 45 min for a table when the place is empty, this is what is happening for your care and has zero to do with covid.
tney were in the trenches for a year and a half to help you. Why did they leave? Because of sleepy. Pay you to stay home. Pay you to not work. Mandated you do what you don’t want.
good luck folks
those that we did have were forced out. Some amazing 20 plus year vets. Gone. We pushed out our “heros” and those above all cared for their job/passion.
while it might suck to have to wait at your local restaurant 45 min for a table when the place is empty, this is what is happening for your care and has zero to do with covid.
tney were in the trenches for a year and a half to help you. Why did they leave? Because of sleepy. Pay you to stay home. Pay you to not work. Mandated you do what you don’t want.
good luck folks
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**** off, exploiting a veteran for your bullshit agenda. you have no character, no morals. you had better hope you and I never cross paths.
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What does that mean, specifically? Please speak up, for those in the back.