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You cannot argue the vaccines only work for SOME people. They do the exact same thing for everyone, fool!
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It’s unlikely the unvaccinated are putting the fully vaccinated at risk which is why we have packed football stadiums, bars, restaurants, etc.
What the unvaccinated are doing is prolonging the pandemic and compromising our healthcare systems.
This is Tony Fauci, the left's hero on the Chinese flu:
www.aier.org
Fauci Was Duplicitous on the AIDS Epidemic Too
"If you want to see an end to the lockdown madness, the ongoing destruction of human lives and livelihoods, and the unprecedented government failures that have come to characterize our daily routines for the last year, the lessons of this administrator’s performance should be obvious. It’s time...
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Idiot, your stupid "one size fits all" approach to the vaccine proves how shallow, stupid and corrupt you are. No surprise that you and the groping grifter plagiarist share this approach. A healthy person under age 40 receives so little benefit from the vaccine that the efficacy vs. potential side effects balance arguably weighs in favor of passing on the vaccine. For an elderly person or somebody with co-morbidities, the analysis is completely different.
You demand that everybody in the pool wear floaties. Fine for 3-year olds, really not needed for Michael Phelps, but you would scream at Phelps to "wear your floaties!!"
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This is why every medication has a percentage of effectiveness tied to it… in x% of people it doesn’t work
Its also why clinical trials get progressively larger and more diverse and why they test new meds against common drug combinations to figure out what cases it won’t be effective in or might be dangerous in
I cannot begin to explain everything wrong with this statement… besides the fact that some people don’t have functioning immune systems so no vaccine would work on them, body chemistry varies enough that any medication or treatment has a small percentage of people whose body will either reject it or it will be rendered in effective or worse it will cause an adverse effect
This is why every medication has a percentage of effectiveness tied to it… in x% of people it doesn’t work
Its also why clinical trials get progressively larger and more diverse and why they test new meds against common drug combinations to figure out what cases it won’t be effective in or might be dangerous in
Wrong. Prove it. Most if not all hospitals have completed their mandates and dismissals.
And these have exacerbated the problem (sorry for the big word)
Wrong. You have been shown articles/data/evidence showing hospitals closing wards, stopping baby deliveries, stopping all surgeries, etc. You also overlook the fact that wait lines in ERs are now extraordinary because of the Covid fear porn pushing people to hospitals because testing has failed under this administration.
Prove otherwise.
I have no words that will compete with Madinsomniac's, except to say this post exemplifies just how ignorant you are on these topics. 100% of what you said is demonstrably wrong. Yet...you...believe it.
Scary as hell.
so you're saying that everyone who takes the vaccine shot risks losing their appendix and accruing a mountain of medical bills?
sounds goddamned awesome. where can I sign up?
Asking for a Supe
and when they fire these nurses and staff for not taking the stabby stab, which would be mandated, they then hire travel nurses, whom are not required to be stabby stabbed. goddamned brilliant! oh, and the travel nurses have a higher rate of pay than the ones currently staffed. which then causes medical bills to balloon.
get back, bubble boy
And we've reached page 404. I suspect we will eclipse the Dri Archer thread.
Beautiful.
stevekirsch.substack.com
On my weekly vaccine team call, I asked the group the question, “How many people in the US have died from Omicron?” Everyone thought it was zero.
This is not an isolated incident however. There was also one other death case in the world: in the UK where a man died with Omicron (not from Omicron).
So two deaths in the world so far with Omicron. There may be more.
We need to take this seriously before it gets out of hand. Omicron is spreading fast.
I’m guessing that the CDC will soon recommend the following:
Note: The CDC was so impressed by this list, they sent me an email asking if I would come to work for them. They thought I was serious! Can you believe that?
So Omicron has to be a MAJOR threat to society, otherwise the EUAs go away.
I wonder when people will wake up?
One person in the US may have died from Omicron
It's panic time. We need to go into lockdown immediately except for food and emergencies, shut down the borders, institute mandatory double masking, and make booster shots mandatory for all.
One person in the US may have died from Omicron
It's panic time. We need to go into lockdown immediately except for food and emergencies, shut down the borders, institute mandatory double masking, and make booster shots mandatory for all.
stevekirsch.substack.com
On my weekly vaccine team call, I asked the group the question, “How many people in the US have died from Omicron?” Everyone thought it was zero.
Two deaths worldwide from Omicron. It’s panic time.
They were wrong. Apparently there might be one death, but it isn’t clear if they were killed by Omicron itself or simply died with Omicron. I think it is the latter since the person already had COVID and recovered and he wasn’t vaccinated (which would have depressed his immune system).This is not an isolated incident however. There was also one other death case in the world: in the UK where a man died with Omicron (not from Omicron).
So two deaths in the world so far with Omicron. There may be more.
We need to take this seriously before it gets out of hand. Omicron is spreading fast.
I’m guessing that the CDC will soon recommend the following:
- Tell people to cancel all New Years parties
- Forbid gatherings of more than 5 vaccinated people, and only if tested within 30 seconds of the gathering. Can’t take any unnecessary risks here.
- Unvaccinated people should not leave their home except to go to work and/or to buy food.
- All restaurants are closed for indoor dining.
- All flights in and out of the country will be halted until further notice.
- If you catch Omicron, you must quarantine in isolation for 30 days.
- Masks are required everywhere including outdoors.
- If you are spotted without a mask, law enforcement is authorized to shoot you first, ask questions later. We need to strict about this to save lives.
- People should get their food via IV infusion. The CDC has determined it is too dangerous to take your mask off to eat.
- Double-masking is required indoors including in homes.
- Boosters need to be given to everyone immediately, including newborns. Also, unborn fetus should be vaccinated in order to be protected as well.
- Newborn babies should be double-masked immediately upon birth because they don’t have a mature immune system yet.
- You need to sleep with a mask on (double masking preferred).
- Keep your mask on in the shower as well. However, if there is nobody at home, then you can remove it:
- If you can breathe through your mask, the mask isn’t going to filter out the virus. The best masks are those where you can’t breathe through them.
- Any doctor not following the CDC approved treatment protocols will be immediately put in jail. We can’t have anyone getting any of those off-label drugs to treat COVID even if they do result in zero deaths.
- Debates with any anti-vax people are prohibited by law. The public must never find out they are being duped.
- Anyone spreading any information that doesn’t support the narrative (aka “misinformation”) should be suspended from Twitter for life, have their Facebook account deleted, and have their YouTube channel demonetized. They should then be arrested and shot, ideally in public view. This is needed to discourage misinformation spreaders that could endanger lives because the existing methods for censoring them haven’t worked so far.
- Internet service providers must monitor all content and block anything that criticizes the CDC.
- Passengers are required to have an antigen test every hour on airline flights. Any passengers who have COVID will be required to quarantine in the lavatory for the remainder of the flight.
Note: The CDC was so impressed by this list, they sent me an email asking if I would come to work for them. They thought I was serious! Can you believe that?
We need to maintain the Emergency, otherwise the EUAs go away
Why would they do this? The EUA expires on Jan 15, 2022 and they need an “emergency” to keep the EUA in place. [ Note: I’m actually not joking about the date ]So Omicron has to be a MAJOR threat to society, otherwise the EUAs go away.
I wonder when people will wake up?
This is not going to sit well with Tibsticles and Floggy. From the New York Times.
nationalfile.com
From the report:
“JERUSALEM — Israel is considering whether to approve a fourth Covid-19 vaccine dose for vulnerable people to contain the fast-spreading Omicron variant, despite debate among scientists and a lack of evidence either for or against another booster.
The panel of experts advising the Israeli government on the pandemic recognized that uncertainty, but on Tuesday it recommended giving a fourth dose, concluding that the potential benefits outweighed the risks. It pointed to signs of waning immunity a few months after the third shot, and said that any delay in additional doses might prove too late to protect those most at risk.
But some scientists warned that the plan could backfire, because too many shots might cause a sort of immune system fatigue, compromising the body’s ability to fight the coronavirus. A few members of the government’s advisory panel raised that concern with respect to the elderly, according to a written summary of the discussion obtained by The New York Times.”
Prime Minister Naftali Bennett has signaled his support for the fourth injection.
“The price will be higher if we don’t vaccinate,” said Dr. Boaz Lev, a member of the Israeli government advisory panel said. “We don’t have a lot of time to make decisions.”
This comes after the U.S. Center for Disease Control (CDC) found that an overwhelming majority of Omicron cases in United States were in “fully vaccinated” people, as National File previously reported.
New York Times: COVID Boosters May Cause 'Immune System Fatigue,' Compromise Ability to Fight Virus
The New York Times reports that experts are concerned too many booster shots may harm the body's ability to fight COVID.
nationalfile.com
The New York Times reported that experts advised caution before Israel approved a fourth COVID-19 vaccine injection, warning that too many shots might actually harm the body’s ability to fight the virus by causing “immune system fatigue.”
As Israel rolls out a fourth COVID-19 vaccine injection to curb the spread of the Omicron variant, experts are now warning that too many injections may cause “immune system fatigue,” and actually compromise the body’s ability to fight the virus, the New York Times reported.From the report:
“JERUSALEM — Israel is considering whether to approve a fourth Covid-19 vaccine dose for vulnerable people to contain the fast-spreading Omicron variant, despite debate among scientists and a lack of evidence either for or against another booster.
The panel of experts advising the Israeli government on the pandemic recognized that uncertainty, but on Tuesday it recommended giving a fourth dose, concluding that the potential benefits outweighed the risks. It pointed to signs of waning immunity a few months after the third shot, and said that any delay in additional doses might prove too late to protect those most at risk.
But some scientists warned that the plan could backfire, because too many shots might cause a sort of immune system fatigue, compromising the body’s ability to fight the coronavirus. A few members of the government’s advisory panel raised that concern with respect to the elderly, according to a written summary of the discussion obtained by The New York Times.”
Prime Minister Naftali Bennett has signaled his support for the fourth injection.
“The price will be higher if we don’t vaccinate,” said Dr. Boaz Lev, a member of the Israeli government advisory panel said. “We don’t have a lot of time to make decisions.”
This comes after the U.S. Center for Disease Control (CDC) found that an overwhelming majority of Omicron cases in United States were in “fully vaccinated” people, as National File previously reported.
And the link from the prior article. The CDC disagrees with Floggy asserting that the overwhelming number of Covid patients are unvaxxed. Now the CDC will be shunned...until they say something tomorrow he can agree with.
Out of the 34 vaccinated individuals who had contracted the Omicron variant, one third of them had received a booster injection.
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www.reuters.com
Meanwhile, something smells rotten in Denmark.
79 percent of Danes infected with Omicron by December 15 were fully jabbed, according to a report released Tuesday by the Statens Serum Institut (SSI), a Danish health ministry that tracks COVID-19 variants. The double-vaccinated accounted for more than 14,000 of 17,767 Omicron infections recorded in Denmark since the country’s first reported case on November 22.
Danish government researchers have acknowledged that vaccination offers effectively no protection against catching Omicron, and some analyses indicate that it actually heightens the risk of contracting the variant. Experts have also warned that a sharp rise in breakthrough cases could point to “original antigenic sin,” which occurs when vaccination causes an inability to mount an effective immune reaction to a variant of a virus, resulting in worse health outcomes for the vaccinated.
An overwhelming majority of individuals contracting the Omicron coronavirus variant in the U.S. are “fully vaccinated,” according to the Center for Disease Control.
According to the Center for Disease Control (CDC), only 20% of COVID-19 cases caused by the Omicron variant identified in the U.S. were in people who are unvaccinated. Out of the 43 cases attributed to the Omicron variant, 34 people infected with the virus had been “fully vaccinated.”Out of the 34 vaccinated individuals who had contracted the Omicron variant, one third of them had received a booster injection.
Most reported U.S. Omicron cases have hit the fully vaccinated -CDC
Most of the 43 COVID-19 cases caused by the Omicron variant identified in the United States so far were in people who were fully vaccinated, and a third of them had received a booster dose, according to a U.S. report published on Friday.
www.reuters.com
Meanwhile, something smells rotten in Denmark.
79 percent of Danes infected with Omicron by December 15 were fully jabbed, according to a report released Tuesday by the Statens Serum Institut (SSI), a Danish health ministry that tracks COVID-19 variants. The double-vaccinated accounted for more than 14,000 of 17,767 Omicron infections recorded in Denmark since the country’s first reported case on November 22.
Danish government researchers have acknowledged that vaccination offers effectively no protection against catching Omicron, and some analyses indicate that it actually heightens the risk of contracting the variant. Experts have also warned that a sharp rise in breakthrough cases could point to “original antigenic sin,” which occurs when vaccination causes an inability to mount an effective immune reaction to a variant of a virus, resulting in worse health outcomes for the vaccinated.
When i was in late grade school a classmate whose aunt worked pretty high up for the Government ( I don’t remember if it was cdc or nih or what ) had her come in to talk to the school about the burgeoning HIV pandemic and at that point they said they hadn’t ruled out transmission through sweat… it probably created a hundred or so germaphobes unnecessarily …. They don’t know until a lot of testing and trials are done… its all hypothesesThis is Tony Fauci, the left's hero on the Chinese flu:
Fauci Was Duplicitous on the AIDS Epidemic Too
"If you want to see an end to the lockdown madness, the ongoing destruction of human lives and livelihoods, and the unprecedented government failures that have come to characterize our daily routines for the last year, the lessons of this administrator’s performance should be obvious. It’s time...
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I was thinking that Justin should just change the name of the forum from P&R to COVID-19.
I don't get how FibsaLot and FloggedHard can take such a pounding day in and day out and still come back for more. As the now late Betty White implied, they must be vaginas.
No ****, I'm starting to develop a Covid symptom from this thread, a pounding headache.
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Read an article that the Biden administration is blocking shipment of monoclonal antibodies to individual states. Trying to force vaccination as the only option. **** like that is criminal. Should really endear him further to voters.
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A year ago my brother got covid. After suffering through it for about two weeks , he got better. A little while later he got the J&J shot. Yesterday he tested positive for covid again. So, Iike, WTF?
Oh they are. I posted links to this before.
You are right. Think about what our Federal Government is doing. Literally killing people, playing with people's lives over Federal v State politics. "We don't like how you behave, how you run your state, so we will withhold proven treatments from sick people."
And these same people tried to say Trump killed people with his policies.
Well, the vaccines don't prevent Covid spread so.
Wishing your brother well man. Praying he's like the mass majority and battles through.
Good news. Appears Omicron is really not that serious.
As someone else quipped, we just have to wait now for the feared Midterm Variant.
www.breitbart.com
South African public health officials announced Thursday that they believe the surge in Chinese coronavirus cases fueled by the omicron variant in the country is ending, leaving a record of lower hospitalizations and severe cases than previous waves...
South African doctors treating omicron patients consistently told reporters around the world that their patients did not appear to be suffering from severe symptoms on a large scale and South African government officials eschewed the aggressive lockdowns they had implemented during initial local outbreaks of coronavirus...
Health officials in the country supported their conclusion with the fact that they had documented a nearly 30-percent drop in documented cases between the week ending on December 25 and the week before, a decrease representing nearly 38,000 cases. South Africa’s National Institute of Communicable Diseases (NICD) followed up the good news with a report on Friday revealing it had found that, even among those hospitalized, coronavirus patients infected with the omicron variant were about 73 percent less likely to be treated for a severe case compared to those infected with the delta variant, the currently dominant variant around the world originating in India.
As someone else quipped, we just have to wait now for the feared Midterm Variant.
South Africa Says It 'May Have Passed' Omicron Coronavirus Peak
South African public health officials announced on Thursday that they believe the omicron surge is ending.
South African public health officials announced Thursday that they believe the surge in Chinese coronavirus cases fueled by the omicron variant in the country is ending, leaving a record of lower hospitalizations and severe cases than previous waves...
South African doctors treating omicron patients consistently told reporters around the world that their patients did not appear to be suffering from severe symptoms on a large scale and South African government officials eschewed the aggressive lockdowns they had implemented during initial local outbreaks of coronavirus...
Health officials in the country supported their conclusion with the fact that they had documented a nearly 30-percent drop in documented cases between the week ending on December 25 and the week before, a decrease representing nearly 38,000 cases. South Africa’s National Institute of Communicable Diseases (NICD) followed up the good news with a report on Friday revealing it had found that, even among those hospitalized, coronavirus patients infected with the omicron variant were about 73 percent less likely to be treated for a severe case compared to those infected with the delta variant, the currently dominant variant around the world originating in India.
The success of mass vaccinations.
www.breitbart.com
D.C., New York Lead Country in Highest Coronavirus Cases Per Capita
Washington, DC, and New York continue to lead the country in reporting the highest cases of the Chinese coronavirus per capita.
I believe they're halting shipments because they don't actually have enough available (not positive about that & correct me if I'm wrong) - but what's criminal is that they've known therapeutics like monoclonal antibodies work (Trump took them in November 2020 and he was back to being his obnoxious self within like a day or two), yet almost 2 years later & here we are.
You're right, it is criminal. What they've done to the people of this country is sickening and heads need to roll - but we know how that's gonna go. Criminal of historical proportions.