,Cowher on the Steelers

[Vincent]

Why do the Rooneys get a pass for this debacle that is the 2014 Steelers? Criticism is hard to find on this board.

To many of us, they don't. They own it 100%.

But here's da ting. They also own the 1970-2006 Pittsburgh Steelers, owners of most every meaningful team record on the professional gridiron. So, on balance, they're coasting through a down period. Noll had one. Chin had one. But this one isn't going to pull it out.

The 2007-2014 Pittsburgh Steelers are a devolution of what was built the previous 36 years. There were lapses during that span, but the brand was established and the MO was there throughout. And the meanness that was the pre 70s Steelers was carried forth. But that has been lost at the hand of a young man that wasn't ready to run a professional franchise, and didn't have the skills that would develop into a manager of a dynasty. So that window has closed. Regrettably. The brand has been tarnished and the MO has been lost.

The Rooney's own that. But they also own six Lombardis.

The smartest thing they could do right now is tank the season to position for higher picks. In the process, make it known that our marketable talent is available for maximum value. Build a cache of picks to hand to a new administration with a 3-5 year plan to again be a perennial contender with a reestablished brand standard. I have no idea who that new administration is, but I hope we see it emerge in January.

For the record, I was a critic of the "Rooney rule", the selection of the young man, and the previous seven years. I posted similar sentiment on previous iterations of these august pages.

 

[Steelerfreak]

I went from 8-8 to 6-10 after today. Soft. No on field vocal leadership that these guys respond to.

 

[Steeltime]

I went from 8-8 to 6-10 after today. Soft. No on field vocal leadership that these guys respond to.

My concern is that yet again, Coach Cliche will have the team out of any chance for the playoffs, and will decide, "What the hell?" and allow Ben to run no-huddle the last 3 games, call the plays, and the team wins the last 3 to go 8-8 again.

They therefore get stuck with a mediocre draft pick, which will be spent on yet another defender who is completely unsuited for the 3-4, while the middling record convinces ownership that the team "is on the right track" so the Cliche-meister returns to continue his dismantling of what was very recently the best organization in the NFL.

 

[awboatguy]

I've said this the last two seasons. We are on the path to become the Raiders. Loyal fan base with ownership that doesn't care about anything but the $$ signs.

 

[TDX27]

The offense has so much talent to suck this bad. We have a top 10 QB, top 3 WR and top 3 RB. Being this bad is just unacceptable on all levels. I honestly don't know who to blame but something must be done and it must be done this week even if it means firing Hale and/or LeBeau. This teams needs a major shake up.

 

[steelcan58]

The offense has so much talent to suck this bad. We have a top 10 QB, top 3 WR and top 3 RB. Being this bad is just unacceptable on all levels. I honestly don't know who to blame but something must be done and it must be done this week even if it means firing Hale and/or LeBeau. This teams needs a major shake up.

The guy that needs to go is the guy in charge of this entire **** show. Just say it. You'll feel better.

 

[TDX27]

The guy that needs to go is the guy in charge of this entire **** show. Just say it. You'll feel better.

I have no problem saying Tomlin should go. I just don't see the Rooney's doing it during the season or even after another **** season as this one appears to be. I hope we at least get rid of Haley and even LeBeau. LeBeau is a HOF coach but we need to move on. With those two gone, hopefully, the Rooney's at least put Tomlin on a very short leash and let him know he is on a very short leash.

If I had to guess, I'd say all three are here through the season and, at best, one coordinator is gone come next year.

 

[Harry_BZAC]

The offense has so much talent to suck this bad. We have a top 10 QB, top 3 WR and top 3 RB. Being this bad is just unacceptable on all levels. I honestly don't know who to blame but something must be done and it must be done this week even if it means firing Hale and/or LeBeau. This teams needs a major shake up.

I disagree about the talent. Our receivers (besides Brown) looked horrible yesterday.

 

[Badcat]

If one play could define this team, it was the first and goal at the 1 yard line. The Steelers have the 2nd rated Running Back in the league, big, powerful, and patient. .......and they throw the ******* ball incomplete.

If Mike Tomlin tells the press that he wants to run the ball more in the red zone, then you would think that the message would be clear to Todd Haley and Ben. But that message was not received. The two of them are doing what they want to do. If Tomlin and Haley begin to reel Ben in, then we're going to get a temper tantrum from Ben. The whole Haley versus Ben media circus in the beginning was due to Haley being brought in to run the ball more. It looks like the "happy medium" was to give Ben some operational authority and no one can really tell if it's a Ben call or Haley call.

The fact of the matter is that defense is abysmal, the offense has no identity, and the players are undisciplined and frustrated. I have no faith in Captain Clique turning this around. None. The only way for the Rooneys to save face is to fire Haley, force Lebeau to retire gracefully, bring in Tomlin's eventual replacement through the hire of a new DC or OC, and put Bens *** on notice that the Steelers will be seeking his replacement through the draft. It's time to make an executive decision Mr. Rooney and stop acting like the Kenyan interloper you campaigned for. We need leadership, damnit.

 

[Steelerfan]

If one play could define this team, it was the first and goal at the 1 yard line. The Steelers have the 2nd rated Running Back in the league, big, powerful, and patient. .......and they throw the ******* ball incomplete.

If Mike Tomlin tells the press that he wants to run the ball more in the red zone, then you would think that the message would be clear to Todd Haley and Ben. But that message was not received. The two of them are doing what they want to do. If Tomlin and Haley begin to reel Ben in, then we're going to get a temper tantrum from Ben. The whole Haley versus Ben media circus in the beginning was due to Haley being brought in to run the ball more. It looks like the "happy medium" was to give Ben some operational authority and no one can really tell if it's a Ben call or Haley call.

The fact of the matter is that defense is abysmal, the offense has no identity, and the players are undisciplined and frustrated. I have no faith in Captain Clique turning this around. None. The only way for the Rooneys to save face is to fire Haley, force Lebeau to retire gracefully, bring in Tomlin's eventual replacement through the hire of a new DC or OC, and put Bens *** on notice that the Steelers will be seeking his replacement through the draft. It's time to make an executive decision Mr. Rooney and stop acting like the Kenyan interloper you campaigned for. We need leadership, damnit.

Well said. Am glad to see some criticism of the Rooneys.

 

[Stryker]

So you're saying our offense has an identity?

 

[Badcat]

So you're saying our offense has an identity?

the word "no" is placed just in front of the word "offense". It's a small word, so perhaps you just overlooked it

 

[Vincent]

Would love to see a post of your Avatar with WTF under it

Howbout this?

 

[Wingman]

Howbout this?

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That will give me night mares, If he stays till the offense scores 60 that is too long!

 

[Ghost of Frenchy Fuqua]

...It's time to make an executive decision Mr. Rooney and stop acting like the Kenyan interloper you campaigned for...

Enough already. Foi the most part the Rooneys are Republicans (and major contributors).

 

[jitter77]

I do not give the Rooney's a free pass and I do not think they care like they used to or the previous generations. I think the Steelers turned from their heart and soul to simply business. I did not have a problem with the Tomlin hiring at first. He was a young coach, well spoken, etc etc, but even after they won the super bowl I saw a lot of red flags from Tomlin and crew. Things are getting progressively worse. The Steelers need to admit they made a mistake and pull the plug on Tomlin. Also someone needs to put some pressure on Lebeau to either retire or change his ways and its sure not going to be Tomlin. I just dont think he is capable. I do not get the criticism of running the ball on here though. Last week everyone was complaining we pass pass pass, now we run and people complain about that. One valid complaint is the lack of play action especially early on and chucking it 20 yrds down field on 3rd and 1. To me that seems like something Ben would do, but its hard to say....

 

[Wingman]

Enough already. Foi the most part the Rooneys are Republicans (and major contributors).

Did you fall out a window and land on your head? They have been democrats for ages, campaigning for dems, the biggest sponsor Heinz is owned by the Kerry's oh yeah that one, Art SR was the ambassador to Ireland appointed by O'bama who he campaigned for. It goes back at least to Carter and likely farther back than that.

 

[IndySteel]

Art Sr. is dead. Dan was the ambassador. It's his flaming liberal *** that ****** this team up so badly.

 

[IndySteel]

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[paperclip]

people seriously bring politics into the ownership of a football team? lol. that's when I know not to pay attention to anything you post here.

 

[IndySteel]

people seriously bring politics into the ownership of a football team? lol. that's when I know not to pay attention to anything you post here.

Don't let the door hit ya where Kordell split ya, fucknut.

 

[SteelVictory]

people seriously bring politics into the ownership of a football team? lol. that's when I know not to pay attention to anything you post here.

We are looking at historical facts, not personal political opinions.

Maybe Streelers fans should read Art Rooney Jr's book Ruanaidh: The Story of Art Rooney and His Clan.
The first few chapters are dedicated to The Chief's early life as a Democrat political strongman in the North Side wards working to "get out the vote" on election days in the 1930's.
(what political party achieved overwhelming success the 1930's, what were their policies and strategies based on?)
These are historical facts, not political opinions.

The Rooney's used Heinz Field, your Heinz Field, to host one of Obama's biggest campaign rallies of the 2008 election season, hell Stan Savran (far left-wing politically) was on stage as the MC.
Pennsylvania was a key swing state in 2008, arguably the key state in that entire election.
Again, a historical fact not a political opinion.

 

[Super Dave]

I remember when the Deuce was publicly critical of Cowher in 2001 and 2004, after 13-3 and 15-1 seasons. I don't recall him saying anything over this debacle that he CREATED.

He refused to extend Cowher after he WON the Super Bowl that he complained about previously. Art 2 ran a highly successful Super Bowl winning coach out of town.

When Tomlin says we own it, ART 2 , more than anyone, OWNS this. Figuratively and literally

Little Jerry Snyder Rooney II

Art The Deuce.

 

[IndySteel]

I remember when the Deuce was publicly critical of Cowher in 2001 and 2004, after 13-3 and 15-1 seasons. I don't recall him saying anything over this debacle that he CREATED.

He refused to extend Cowher after he WON the Super Bowl that he complained about previously. Art 2 ran a highly successful Super Bowl winning coach out of town.

When Tomlin says we own it, ART 2 , more than anyone, OWNS this. Figuratively and literally

Little Jerry Snyder Rooney II

Art The Deuce.

He and Dan dropped a big deuce all over the franchise, especially with the stupid *** Rooney Rule and the hiring of Dumlin.

 

[Super Dave]

He and Dan dropped a big deuce all over the franchise, especially with the stupid *** Rooney Rule and the hiring of Dumlin.

Art The Deuce waited until Dan was safely out of the country before he kicked Cowher to the curb like yesterdays trash..