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Feds: Dayton gunman’s friend bought body armor, firearm accessory, magazine

https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2019...PiTtFXL6S-4RLRZIbo5EwiLzFhceb3qI6O1ZoLedlBn7E

August 12, 2019 at 12:25 PM CDT - Updated August 12 at 2:10 PM

DAYTON, Ohio (FOX19) - A friend of Dayton mass shooter Connor Betts bought Betts’ body armor, a gun accessory and a 100-round double drum magazine, according to federal authorities.

Betts, 24, opened fire with a .223 rifle in Dayton’s Oregon District killing nine and injuring dozens more.

Ethan Kollie, 24, of Kettering, has been charged with federally lying on federal firearms forms in order to purchase weapons and with illegally possessing those weapons.

U.S. Attorney Benjamin Glassman stressed there is no allegation that Kollie intentionally participated in planning of the shooting.

According to Glassman, federal agents first interviewed Kollie on Aug. 4 in connection with the mass shooting earlier that day in Dayton.

During that interview, Kollie allegedly told agents that he likes guns and currently owns a handgun and a micro Draco pistol.

He also indicated that he purchased body armor and a firearm component for Betts earlier this year.

Kollie agreed to allow agents to search his home, and while inside, they say they smelled marijuana and observed in plain sight a bong and the Drago pistol.

During a second interview on Aug. 8, Kollie told to agents that he and Betts had done “hard drugs," marijuana and acid together four or five times a weeks during 2014 and 2015. When asked how often he used drugs in the past year and a half, Kollie said he smokes marijuana every day and has done so since he was 14.

The affidavit says that Kollie also told agents he uses psychedelic mushrooms, which he grows in his residence, and “micro-doses” on a constant basis, stating it gives him energy and is “fun.”

Kollie allegedly told agents he lied on ATF Form 4473 while purchasing firearms, specifically while answering question 11e that asks, “Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” Kollie checked the “no” box.

According to the affidavit, Kollie acknowledged purchasing three items used by Betts during the Aug. 4 mass shooting: body armor, upper receiver that was attached to the AM-15 weapon, and a 100-round double drum magazine.

Kollie said he bought the items for Betts and stored them at his apartment to help Betts hide them from his parents.

Kollie and Betts allegedly assembled the AM-15 in Kollie’s apartment about 10 weeks ago.

Approximately six to eight weeks ago, Kollie obtained the drum magazine. At that time, Betts took the magazine, the assembled weapon and the body armor.

Agents returned to Kollie’s apartment with a federal search warrant and recovered the micro Drago pistol, a Taurus Model PT111 G2A semi-automatic pistol, ammunition, drug paraphernalia and suspected marijuana and mushrooms believed to contain Schedule 1 Controlled Substances.

Possessing a firearm as an unlawful user of a controlled substance is a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

Making a false statement regarding firearms carries a potential maximum sentence of up to five years’ imprisonment.

Kollie is currently in custody and will appear in federal court in Dayton at 3 p.m. on Wednesday for a detention hearing.

Copyright 2019 WXIX. All rights reserved.
 
White Supremacy. Racist in Chief. Gun Control. Silence Conservatives. Control thought. Control people. Those are your talking points sheep, I mean people.

Sincerely,

Uncle George
 
We should probaly outlaw guns. It is a new concept. It will work. Trust me
 
We should probaly outlaw guns. It is a new concept. It will work. Trust me

No, go all the way and make it illegal to kill people.
 
Right on cue, Schumer wants to regulate body armor. Let's count up the people killed by body armor..



OK, let's remember why we have the Second Amendment. It isn't so we can go hunting and skeet shooting. It's so that we have some semblance of a resistance to a tyrannical government. Somebody remind this idiot of that. The government wants to take away the ability to have body armor? No ******* way.
 
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Red Flag Laws are coming down, dont ever answer any questions from your doctor about being depressed if you own guns
 
Red Flag Laws are coming down, dont ever answer any questions from your doctor about being depressed if you own guns

They already crawled this message board. A lot of us should expect visits.
 
Rand Paul signals support for Red Flags

Paul, a strong gun-rights advocate, signaled his willingness to support something along the lines of "red flag" laws that allow guns to be removed from those who may be a danger to themselves and others.

"I'm not opposed to sort of an emergency order for 48 hours and then you get a hearing in a court where you get the full due-process protections," he said in the interview. "It's the one thing that could fix a lot of stuff. I think most of these homicidal attackers ... are sending off signals to their family and community."

https://news.yahoo.com/sen-rand-paul-easing-back-051730853.html
 
Knives in Amercia -- NSFW and graphic content

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These Georgia cops risked their lives to NOT shoot, almost getting killed in the process. <br><br>CNN doesn't care about them–just the criminals. <a href="https://t.co/eGZ4HntUl0">pic.twitter.com/eGZ4HntUl0</a></p>— Rep. Steven Smith &#55356;&#56826;&#55356;&#56824; (@RepStevenSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/RepStevenSmith/status/1160551248476680192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Agreement

Since gun laws don't work, let's do something whimsical and put Australias National Firearms Agreement in place in the USA for 20 years and see what the results are.

A whole community that's been brainwashed by the media to NOT help the Police find child killers? Yeah, sounds like an NRA conspiracy....

What a joke African American culture is.... rather have gang bangers running around shooting up kids than help Police find them. Sounds like a wonderful community. Has to be the White Man's fault.
 
Universal Background Checks = gun registry. They basically eliminate private sales altogether.

The left would LOVE to have a database of who owned what. Combined with red flag laws it would give them a list of targets to harass or ‘start with’



McConnell: Gun background checks will be 'front and center' in Senate debate

"The discussion is focusing on two things: One is these red flag warnings. … There's also been some discussion about background checks," McConnell told Kentucky radio station WHAS during an interview on Thursday.

When the radio host noted that expanding background checks is supported by roughly 90 percent of Americans, McConnell acknowledged that "there's a lot of support for that."

"There's a bipartisan bill in the Senate, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, a Republican, and Joe Manchin of West Virginia, a Democrat, so those are two items that for sure will be front and center as we see what we can come together on and pass," McConnell added.

McConnell did not say whether he supports expanding background checks or that he would give a bill that expands background checks a vote as part of the Senate's upcoming debate.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...cks-will-be-front-and-center-in-senate-debate
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Agreement

Since gun laws don't work, let's do something whimsical and put Australias National Firearms Agreement in place in the USA for 20 years and see what the results are.

From your own ******* article:

In 1997, the Prime Minister appointed the Australian Institute of Criminology to monitor the effects of the gun buyback. The institute has published a number of papers reporting trends and statistics around gun ownership and gun crime, which it has found to be mostly related to illegally held firearms.[10][11] A 2013 report by the Australian Crime Commission said a conservative estimate was that there were 250,000 longarms and 10,000 handguns in the nation's illicit firearms market. The number of guns imported to Australia legally has also risen.[12] A 2014 report stated that approximately "260,000 guns are on the Australian 'grey' or black markets".[13]

Research by Philip Alpers of the University of Sydney found that Australia experienced 69 gun homicides in 1996 (not counting the Port Arthur massacre), compared to 30 in 2012.[9] The drop in firearm homicides was not attributed to the national firearms agreement. A 2006 study led by Simon Chapman, also of the University of Sydney, found that after the NFA was passed, the country experienced more than a decade without mass shootings and accelerated falls in gun deaths, especially suicides.[14] Samara McPhedran and Jeanine Baker,[15] researchers for gun lobby group Women in Shooting and Hunting (WiSH), considered whether the NFA had any effect in eliminating mass shootings by using New Zealand (a country with many similarities to Australia) as a comparison and found; “there is little support for the proposition that prohibiting certain types of firearms explains the absence of mass shootings in Australia since 1996”.

Another study by Baker and McPhedran in 2007 did not find a significant effect of the NFA on Australia's homicide rate. While research does show a steady decline in gun-related suicides, the reduction occurred at the same time as an overall reduction in the Australian suicide rate. What’s more, firearm-related suicides had been declining in Australia for nearly ten years before the 1996 restrictions on gun ownership.[2] A 2009 study also found that firearm suicide rates were decreasing in Australia before the NFA was passed, and concluded that "The implemented restrictions may not be responsible for the observed reductions in firearms suicide."[16]

Suicide reduction from firearm regulation is disputed by Richard Harding in his 1981 book "Firearms and Violence in Australian Life"[18] where, after reviewing Australian statistics, he said that "whatever arguments might be made for the limitation or regulation of the private ownership of firearms, suicide patterns do not constitute one of them" Harding quoted international analysis by Newton and Zimring[19] of twenty developed countries which concluded at page 36 of their report; “cultural factors appear to affect suicide rates far more than the availability and use of firearms. Thus, suicide rates would not seem to be readily affected by making firearms less available."

University of Melbourne researchers Wang-Sheng Lee and Sandy Suardi concluded their 2008 report, "There is little evidence to suggest that the Australian mandatory gun-buyback program had any significant effects on firearm homicides."[20]


Oh, so taking firearms from private citizens does not do **** in preventing homicides or suicides? Who cares, right Tibs?!?
 
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From your own ******* article:

In 1997, the Prime Minister appointed the Australian Institute of Criminology to monitor the effects of the gun buyback. The institute has published a number of papers reporting trends and statistics around gun ownership and gun crime, which it has found to be mostly related to illegally held firearms.[10][11] A 2013 report by the Australian Crime Commission said a conservative estimate was that there were 250,000 longarms and 10,000 handguns in the nation's illicit firearms market. The number of guns imported to Australia legally has also risen.[12] A 2014 report stated that approximately "260,000 guns are on the Australian 'grey' or black markets".[13]

Research by Philip Alpers of the University of Sydney found that Australia experienced 69 gun homicides in 1996 (not counting the Port Arthur massacre), compared to 30 in 2012.[9] The drop in firearm homicides was not attributed to the national firearms agreement. A 2006 study led by Simon Chapman, also of the University of Sydney, found that after the NFA was passed, the country experienced more than a decade without mass shootings and accelerated falls in gun deaths, especially suicides.[14] Samara McPhedran and Jeanine Baker,[15] researchers for gun lobby group Women in Shooting and Hunting (WiSH), considered whether the NFA had any effect in eliminating mass shootings by using New Zealand (a country with many similarities to Australia) as a comparison and found; “there is little support for the proposition that prohibiting certain types of firearms explains the absence of mass shootings in Australia since 1996”.

Another study by Baker and McPhedran in 2007 did not find a significant effect of the NFA on Australia's homicide rate. While research does show a steady decline in gun-related suicides, the reduction occurred at the same time as an overall reduction in the Australian suicide rate. What’s more, firearm-related suicides had been declining in Australia for nearly ten years before the 1996 restrictions on gun ownership.[2] A 2009 study also found that firearm suicide rates were decreasing in Australia before the NFA was passed, and concluded that "The implemented restrictions may not be responsible for the observed reductions in firearms suicide."[16]

Suicide reduction from firearm regulation is disputed by Richard Harding in his 1981 book "Firearms and Violence in Australian Life"[18] where, after reviewing Australian statistics, he said that "whatever arguments might be made for the limitation or regulation of the private ownership of firearms, suicide patterns do not constitute one of them" Harding quoted international analysis by Newton and Zimring[19] of twenty developed countries which concluded at page 36 of their report; “cultural factors appear to affect suicide rates far more than the availability and use of firearms. Thus, suicide rates would not seem to be readily affected by making firearms less available."

University of Melbourne researchers Wang-Sheng Lee and Sandy Suardi concluded their 2008 report, "There is little evidence to suggest that the Australian mandatory gun-buyback program had any significant effects on firearm homicides."[20]


Oh, so taking firearms from private citizens does not do **** in preventing homicides or suicides? Who cares, right Tibs?!?

You didn't expect him to actually read the article did you? He's a busy man... that book isn't going to write itself.
 
From your own ******* article:

In 1997, the Prime Minister appointed the Australian Institute of Criminology to monitor the effects of the gun buyback. The institute has published a number of papers reporting trends and statistics around gun ownership and gun crime, which it has found to be mostly related to illegally held firearms.[10][11] A 2013 report by the Australian Crime Commission said a conservative estimate was that there were 250,000 longarms and 10,000 handguns in the nation's illicit firearms market. The number of guns imported to Australia legally has also risen.[12] A 2014 report stated that approximately "260,000 guns are on the Australian 'grey' or black markets".[13]

Research by Philip Alpers of the University of Sydney found that Australia experienced 69 gun homicides in 1996 (not counting the Port Arthur massacre), compared to 30 in 2012.[9] The drop in firearm homicides was not attributed to the national firearms agreement. A 2006 study led by Simon Chapman, also of the University of Sydney, found that after the NFA was passed, the country experienced more than a decade without mass shootings and accelerated falls in gun deaths, especially suicides.[14] Samara McPhedran and Jeanine Baker,[15] researchers for gun lobby group Women in Shooting and Hunting (WiSH), considered whether the NFA had any effect in eliminating mass shootings by using New Zealand (a country with many similarities to Australia) as a comparison and found; “there is little support for the proposition that prohibiting certain types of firearms explains the absence of mass shootings in Australia since 1996”.

Another study by Baker and McPhedran in 2007 did not find a significant effect of the NFA on Australia's homicide rate. While research does show a steady decline in gun-related suicides, the reduction occurred at the same time as an overall reduction in the Australian suicide rate. What’s more, firearm-related suicides had been declining in Australia for nearly ten years before the 1996 restrictions on gun ownership.[2] A 2009 study also found that firearm suicide rates were decreasing in Australia before the NFA was passed, and concluded that "The implemented restrictions may not be responsible for the observed reductions in firearms suicide."[16]

Suicide reduction from firearm regulation is disputed by Richard Harding in his 1981 book "Firearms and Violence in Australian Life"[18] where, after reviewing Australian statistics, he said that "whatever arguments might be made for the limitation or regulation of the private ownership of firearms, suicide patterns do not constitute one of them" Harding quoted international analysis by Newton and Zimring[19] of twenty developed countries which concluded at page 36 of their report; “cultural factors appear to affect suicide rates far more than the availability and use of firearms. Thus, suicide rates would not seem to be readily affected by making firearms less available."

University of Melbourne researchers Wang-Sheng Lee and Sandy Suardi concluded their 2008 report, "There is little evidence to suggest that the Australian mandatory gun-buyback program had any significant effects on firearm homicides."[20]

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Take a guess at which one's 21.
 
So U wanna go door to door disarming drug dealers Kamala?

6 police officers shot in Philly
 
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